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2006-02-16 05:42:01
headrippa
Member
+9|7209
Problem with everyone now playing support is that they dont throw down ammo bags...at all.

I was going for my explosive expert and was 4 away from getting it, two support guys near me wouldnt replenish my claymores. So I just accidently shot them, took their kits, dropped myself some ammo bags, changed back and went on my merry claywhore way.

I ended up getting it too.
2006-02-16 06:07:16
Cbass
Kick His Ass!
+371|7129|Howell, Mi USA
Well said ImDead, Shut the fuck up and play the fucking game. DICE changed some things in the game because they felt it needed to be, not because of "cry babys"  We all know jets are totally jewish, it's been said a 10000 times. So let me break it down, it if see someone with a 5,6,7+ k/d ratio and a jet next to their name i think "oh jet whore" and it doesn't mean shit when 95% of their kills are in a jet. but if i see the same thing only a say transport id think "wow that dude must Pwn bitches in his sleep" a k/d ratio and the way u fight are one in the same. AA,Jets got changed because it was horribly unbalanced. i don't totally agree with helos being downgraded but obviously DICE thought they needed to be.

btw patch 1.2 is total pwnage :p

Last edited by Cbass (2006-02-16 06:15:43)

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2006-02-16 06:36:52
Coolbeano
Level 13.5 BF2S Ninja Penguin Sensei
+378|7198

I remember the time when FPS stood for First Person Shooter. No plural.
2006-02-16 11:30:23
ComradeWho
Member
+50|7130|Southern California

b0ned0me wrote:

Oh NOOOOO! The support weapons are no longer ridiculously inaccurate and geenrally useless. Oh NOOOOOO! The aircraft are no longer totally overpowered and don't let one or two players totally dominate a 64-player map. Oh NOOOOOOOO! =[4th]=SlayThem isn't happy and wants things to be exactly like they were in the old days. BFD.

Incidentally when were the good old days? 1.0? 1.03? Or were you whining about some aspect of each of those versions too?

ComradeWho - exactly right. Most people have their favourite weapon/class/tactic and want it to be supercharged and every other thing to be nerfed so they can be uber-badass and pwn everyone. Online gaming isn't exactly overflowing with maturity, respect and friendliness.
things usually start out generally balanced and then communities whine and whine and whine until the game is babyfied and made easy.
in a good fps you suck for about a month because you're learning how to play then you figure it out and you catch up to where the community is, because things are made to be inbalanced and have little niches, and the inbalance provides the community a chance to refine and adapt and evolve beyond what the original intentions of the gameplay were. that is wonderful.
there are a lot of babyfying measures in this patch other than making support stronger and making AA a threat to pilots (the funny thing is i think they weakened it in an earlier patch due to whining, right?). can't jump with c4 (i don't understand why you can't jump and throw c4 since it's designed to be more versatile than conventional explosives), can't "noob tube" really only new people had problems with this - and the funny thing is they are the ones that are going to be hurt the most since assault is the class that was designed to be easy to use and dominate close ranges (now it's kind of stupid), babies are always gonna whine. always. they whine and whine and whine. they get sooooo mad because they come into a game and don't bother learning how to play and use a style of play that sucks, then they whine and whine and try to make everyone else devolve to their level and adopt their ineffective style of play, then when nobody does they whine some more and band together with other whiners until a patch comes out that makes their shitty style more effective. then it turns out it's the good players that know how to play and understand the physics of the game because they bothered to just shut up and learn it, and they adapt and continue to dominate and the little babies who don't want to learn whine again and then another patch comes out sometimes fixing the very things their whining changed to begin with. at the end of the day any patch that isn't fixing glitches or adding features is a shitty attempt to appease whiners that will probably make the game more babified.
2006-02-16 12:24:19
haloscars
Member
+0|7120
I remember when a gaming community was relieved that a company had finally released a patch for their buggy game.
2006-02-16 12:31:24
ComradeWho
Member
+50|7130|Southern California

haloscars wrote:

I remember when a gaming community was relieved that a company had finally released a patch for their buggy game.
because when a community is saying "fix the bug" instead of "make da wepinz difrint so i kan kill mor peepelz" patches are great, when patches change games to pander to whining they end up making more bugs - 1.2 is a great example!
2006-02-16 13:08:05
haloscars
Member
+0|7120

ComradeWho wrote:

haloscars wrote:

I remember when a gaming community was relieved that a company had finally released a patch for their buggy game.
because when a community is saying "fix the bug" instead of "make da wepinz difrint so i kan kill mor peepelz" patches are great, when patches change games to pander to whining they end up making more bugs - 1.2 is a great example!
I agree the weapon changes are too strong, and that they should have left the health alone on jets and helis if they were going to make AA that strong. I haven't heard much of the exploits since the patch though, and that could be a good thing. I know the red name bug still exists, hopefully people still cant get into buildings that they shouldn't be able to on Karkand or get into the crate on Night Flight. I'm coping with all the changes, just wish the patch was more complete. Something tells me that getting the booster ready at the same time as a patch made the patch take a back seat.
2006-02-16 18:11:45
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7268
I don't feel like reading the same posts over and over about people calling people noobs because they dislike something.
But the reason I am speaking out about this is because it's a rediculous "fix."
the LMGs were NOT useless pre1.2. They were perfect if you would just LEARN TO USE IT! Everyone who disagrees with me on the LMGs are "noobs" that didn't feel like taking time to LEARN how to use it effectively. OH NOES YOU PICKED IT UP ONE TIME AND YOU COULDN'T KILL YOUR TARGET IN THE FIRST SHOT AND YOU DIED! So, learn rather than crying so DICE makes them easier to use because you don't want to spend time actually practicing(oh noes practice) and getting better. You just want everything handed to you on a silver platter. Now everybody can use them and it's just really lame.

Whoever said I sucked at sniping becuase I got counter-sniped by a pkm. You just wait. Someday you'll meet a guy with a SAW 100m away and you'll see three bullets fired and then you'll be dead.

If you think the LMGs were useless pre1.2, take a look at my video I made.
http://files.filefront.com/Supportexten … einfo.html
You can't tell me that is useless. You just have to learn. or dare I say the most used word in all complaint  threads... "ADAPT"
And yes, I will adapt to these new "fixes" unlike some of you who will whine your way out of it and refuse to use whatever you're whining about until it's "fixed" or "noobified". But in the mean time while I adapt, I will speak out about things I don't like, but just because I don't like them doesn't mean I won't be adapting, unlike some of you.

I just find it funny when everyone who whined to get these things fixed are now telling people to "adapt."
I have a question for you. Why didn't you adapt to the LMGs pre1.2 rather than whine to get the fixed? this isn't even a fix. it's just a noobification of a weapon that was already good enough.

Last edited by =[4th]=SlayThem (2006-02-16 18:15:55)

2006-02-16 18:33:32
oberst_enzian
Member
+234|7178|melb.au

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

I just find it funny when everyone who whined to get these things fixed are now telling people to "adapt."
I have a question for you. Why didn't you adapt to the LMGs pre1.2 rather than whine to get the fixed? this isn't even a fix. it's just a noobification of a weapon that was already good enough.
amen. this is exactly how i feel about the sniper rifles...
2006-02-16 18:38:10
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7268

oberst_enzian wrote:

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

I just find it funny when everyone who whined to get these things fixed are now telling people to "adapt."
I have a question for you. Why didn't you adapt to the LMGs pre1.2 rather than whine to get the fixed? this isn't even a fix. it's just a noobification of a weapon that was already good enough.
amen. this is exactly how i feel about the sniper rifles...
Eh, I have to disagree there. Sniperrifles were pretty bad.. the shots were almost too random. you aim at the head and it goes two feet to the left. I'm not getting Headshotted constantly by the sniperrifle so it's still pretty balanced. Besides, sniper rifles are supposed to be accurate. Now if they made them accurate and oneshot kills, then I'd be worried.

Last edited by =[4th]=SlayThem (2006-02-16 18:39:01)

2006-02-16 18:38:45
Maj.Do
Member
+85|7187|good old CA

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

I don't feel like reading the same posts over and over about people calling people noobs because they dislike something.
But the reason I am speaking out about this is because it's a rediculous "fix."
the LMGs were NOT useless pre1.2. They were perfect if you would just LEARN TO USE IT! Everyone who disagrees with me on the LMGs are "noobs" that didn't feel like taking time to LEARN how to use it effectively. OH NOES YOU PICKED IT UP ONE TIME AND YOU COULDN'T KILL YOUR TARGET IN THE FIRST SHOT AND YOU DIED! So, learn rather than crying so DICE makes them easier to use because you don't want to spend time actually practicing(oh noes practice) and getting better. You just want everything handed to you on a silver platter. Now everybody can use them and it's just really lame.

Whoever said I sucked at sniping becuase I got counter-sniped by a pkm. You just wait. Someday you'll meet a guy with a SAW 100m away and you'll see three bullets fired and then you'll be dead.

If you think the LMGs were useless pre1.2, take a look at my video I made.
http://files.filefront.com/Supportexten … einfo.html
You can't tell me that is useless. You just have to learn. or dare I say the most used word in all complaint  threads... "ADAPT"
And yes, I will adapt to these new "fixes" unlike some of you who will whine your way out of it and refuse to use whatever you're whining about until it's "fixed" or "noobified". But in the mean time while I adapt, I will speak out about things I don't like, but just because I don't like them doesn't mean I won't be adapting, unlike some of you.

I just find it funny when everyone who whined to get these things fixed are now telling people to "adapt."
I have a question for you. Why didn't you adapt to the LMGs pre1.2 rather than whine to get the fixed? this isn't even a fix. it's just a noobification of a weapon that was already good enough.
LMG were easy to me when i started using them in pre 1.2    . i think aa is a killer dont lower jet health when u make it stronger : (.  oh well i dropped BF2 from my top 2 games to play on the weekend, tired of of tons of snipers/LMG and no more c4 : (  Tanks!.  I know play COd2 : )
2006-02-16 18:41:13
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7268

Maj.Do wrote:

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

I don't feel like reading the same posts over and over about people calling people noobs because they dislike something.
But the reason I am speaking out about this is because it's a rediculous "fix."
the LMGs were NOT useless pre1.2. They were perfect if you would just LEARN TO USE IT! Everyone who disagrees with me on the LMGs are "noobs" that didn't feel like taking time to LEARN how to use it effectively. OH NOES YOU PICKED IT UP ONE TIME AND YOU COULDN'T KILL YOUR TARGET IN THE FIRST SHOT AND YOU DIED! So, learn rather than crying so DICE makes them easier to use because you don't want to spend time actually practicing(oh noes practice) and getting better. You just want everything handed to you on a silver platter. Now everybody can use them and it's just really lame.

Whoever said I sucked at sniping becuase I got counter-sniped by a pkm. You just wait. Someday you'll meet a guy with a SAW 100m away and you'll see three bullets fired and then you'll be dead.

If you think the LMGs were useless pre1.2, take a look at my video I made.
http://files.filefront.com/Supportexten … einfo.html
You can't tell me that is useless. You just have to learn. or dare I say the most used word in all complaint  threads... "ADAPT"
And yes, I will adapt to these new "fixes" unlike some of you who will whine your way out of it and refuse to use whatever you're whining about until it's "fixed" or "noobified". But in the mean time while I adapt, I will speak out about things I don't like, but just because I don't like them doesn't mean I won't be adapting, unlike some of you.

I just find it funny when everyone who whined to get these things fixed are now telling people to "adapt."
I have a question for you. Why didn't you adapt to the LMGs pre1.2 rather than whine to get the fixed? this isn't even a fix. it's just a noobification of a weapon that was already good enough.
LMG were easy to me when i started using them in pre 1.2    . i think aa is a killer dont lower jet health when u make it stronger : (.  oh well i dropped BF2 from my top 2 games to play on the weekend, tired of of tons of snipers/LMG and no more c4 : (  Tanks!.  I know play COd2 : )
I think  a fix for the C4 could of been a minimum throw distance (kind of like a little charge up throw, liek grenades being used with right-click.) and can't detonate until it is on the ground/stuck to something.
EDIT: and for noobtubes, make it a 20m activation distance. anywhere before the 20m distance traveled, make it ACTUALLY BOUNCE. the GL "fix" wasn't a fix.. it seems more like one big glitch now.

Last edited by =[4th]=SlayThem (2006-02-16 18:43:17)

2006-02-16 18:43:11
Maj.Do
Member
+85|7187|good old CA

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

Maj.Do wrote:

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

I don't feel like reading the same posts over and over about people calling people noobs because they dislike something.
But the reason I am speaking out about this is because it's a rediculous "fix."
the LMGs were NOT useless pre1.2. They were perfect if you would just LEARN TO USE IT! Everyone who disagrees with me on the LMGs are "noobs" that didn't feel like taking time to LEARN how to use it effectively. OH NOES YOU PICKED IT UP ONE TIME AND YOU COULDN'T KILL YOUR TARGET IN THE FIRST SHOT AND YOU DIED! So, learn rather than crying so DICE makes them easier to use because you don't want to spend time actually practicing(oh noes practice) and getting better. You just want everything handed to you on a silver platter. Now everybody can use them and it's just really lame.

Whoever said I sucked at sniping becuase I got counter-sniped by a pkm. You just wait. Someday you'll meet a guy with a SAW 100m away and you'll see three bullets fired and then you'll be dead.

If you think the LMGs were useless pre1.2, take a look at my video I made.
http://files.filefront.com/Supportexten … einfo.html
You can't tell me that is useless. You just have to learn. or dare I say the most used word in all complaint  threads... "ADAPT"
And yes, I will adapt to these new "fixes" unlike some of you who will whine your way out of it and refuse to use whatever you're whining about until it's "fixed" or "noobified". But in the mean time while I adapt, I will speak out about things I don't like, but just because I don't like them doesn't mean I won't be adapting, unlike some of you.

I just find it funny when everyone who whined to get these things fixed are now telling people to "adapt."
I have a question for you. Why didn't you adapt to the LMGs pre1.2 rather than whine to get the fixed? this isn't even a fix. it's just a noobification of a weapon that was already good enough.
LMG were easy to me when i started using them in pre 1.2    . i think aa is a killer dont lower jet health when u make it stronger : (.  oh well i dropped BF2 from my top 2 games to play on the weekend, tired of of tons of snipers/LMG and no more c4 : (  Tanks!.  I know play COd2 : )
I think  a fix for the C4 could of been a minimum throw distance (kind of like a little charge up throw, liek grenades being used with right-click.) and can't detonate until it is on the ground/stuck to something.
that would be perfect and omg the stinger missles followed my jet over the mountain and down it.  im scared to death to fly now lol
2006-02-16 18:45:19
Esker
Member
+1|7162

ComradeWho wrote:

haloscars wrote:

I remember when a gaming community was relieved that a company had finally released a patch for their buggy game.
because when a community is saying "fix the bug" instead of "make da wepinz difrint so i kan kill mor peepelz" patches are great, when patches change games to pander to whining they end up making more bugs - 1.2 is a great example!
Indeed =/
2006-02-16 18:45:21
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7268

Maj.Do wrote:

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

Maj.Do wrote:


LMG were easy to me when i started using them in pre 1.2    . i think aa is a killer dont lower jet health when u make it stronger : (.  oh well i dropped BF2 from my top 2 games to play on the weekend, tired of of tons of snipers/LMG and no more c4 : (  Tanks!.  I know play COd2 : )
I think  a fix for the C4 could of been a minimum throw distance (kind of like a little charge up throw, liek grenades being used with right-click.) and can't detonate until it is on the ground/stuck to something.
that would be perfect and omg the stinger missles followed my jet over the mountain and down it.  im scared to death to fly now lol
Haha, I'm not scared to fly, I was kinda pissed at first.. but I'm adapting pretty well. but I think since it is an arcade style, not realism... they should have left the jet's HP alone and just made the AA seek better. doing both seems like overkill.

 

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