yeah apparently someone should tell that to HK, barrett, and FN. or maybe thay are just a bunch of gaming nerds too.geNius wrote:
Guess how many times I've seen threads where gaming nerds think the m16/m4 is on its way out, when anyone involved in the military doesn't seem to think it's an issue.
Hint: more than one time.
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Make it full auto and we're half way thereGunSlinger OIF II wrote:
this is the 25MM sniper rifle
http://www.tom-style.net/mt/archives/im … 9_bors.jpg
Don't forget Thompsonrdx-fx wrote:
Anything designed by committee is generally garbage.pj666 wrote:
Any gun designed by a committee will be garbage. Get the grunts involved. When the M16A1 first came out it was garbage. Combat units in Nam went back to using their M1 Garands early on because the M16A1 kept jamming. This for a gun meant to be designed to be used in dirst and rain, and to be low maintenance.
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All of the truly genius long-lasting firearm designs were the solo work of inspired designers. Kalasnikov, Eugene Stoner(? or Atchinson?), John Browning, Helmut Weldle, Mauser, etc.
There is an elegance and simplicity in a truly great design that just cannot be achieved by a committee.
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Just have UK/US/Canada/Aus?Mek-Izzle wrote:
Wouldn't adopting 6mm calibre kinda ruin the whole NATO standardisation shit.
Tbh they should disband NATO anyway it's probably done more harm than good.
Would make sense tbh.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
Just have UK/US/Canada/Aus?Mek-Izzle wrote:
Wouldn't adopting 6mm calibre kinda ruin the whole NATO standardisation shit.
Tbh they should disband NATO anyway it's probably done more harm than good.
too commonwealthy for me.
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If your turd wasn't tapered at the end your asshole would slam shut. Don't you think?velocitychaos wrote:
If everybody had flowers instead of bullets everybody would get on a whole lot better, don't you think?
They're accents are funny and don;t offer enough support.Mek-Izzle wrote:
What about the Caribbean
and NoZ
and South Africa
but Americans/Canadians/Aussies have silly accents toojord wrote:
They're accents are funny and don;t offer enough support.Mek-Izzle wrote:
What about the Caribbean
and NoZ
and South Africa
Go AOESC !
They can have.
NS/SA
They don't bail people out, they get bailed out.
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This aint fucking Doom. I doubt your gonna find anyone who is gonna wanna lug that huge thing around and take it into combat. Its like giving a guy a fucking M2 and telling them its the new assault rifle.N00bkilla55404 wrote:
Id say the 416, all that money used to make a gun that can never jam is going to go to waste otherwise. And unlike the ak47, it is lightweight, highly customizable, as accurate as the m16, and also has a fullsize Assault Rifle variant.
I would also LOVE to see this baby being rethought and possibly issued.
http://www.portierramaryaire.com/imagenes/oicw.jpg
http://www.defence.co.kr/weaponbook/wea … /oicw2.jpg
Lol'dCommie Killer wrote:
This aint fucking Doom. I doubt your gonna find anyone who is gonna wanna lug that huge thing around and take it into combat. Its like giving a guy a fucking M2 and telling them its the new assault rifle.N00bkilla55404 wrote:
Id say the 416, all that money used to make a gun that can never jam is going to go to waste otherwise. And unlike the ak47, it is lightweight, highly customizable, as accurate as the m16, and also has a fullsize Assault Rifle variant.
I would also LOVE to see this baby being rethought and possibly issued.
http://www.portierramaryaire.com/imagenes/oicw.jpg
http://www.defence.co.kr/weaponbook/wea … /oicw2.jpg
Oh and yea, that gun is fucking win.
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Hmm great as long as u dont need to hold it for more than 20 secs at a timeN00bkilla55404 wrote:
Id say the 416, all that money used to make a gun that can never jam is going to go to waste otherwise. And unlike the ak47, it is lightweight, highly customizable, as accurate as the m16, and also has a fullsize Assault Rifle variant.
I would also LOVE to see this baby being rethought and possibly issued.
http://www.portierramaryaire.com/imagenes/oicw.jpg
http://www.defence.co.kr/weaponbook/wea … /oicw2.jpg
Never heard anything about the M8 being derived from the OICW program. But the XM8 did have a grenade launcher, it was the M320.KuSTaV wrote:
Lol'dCommie Killer wrote:
This aint fucking Doom. I doubt your gonna find anyone who is gonna wanna lug that huge thing around and take it into combat. Its like giving a guy a fucking M2 and telling them its the new assault rifle.N00bkilla55404 wrote:
Id say the 416, all that money used to make a gun that can never jam is going to go to waste otherwise. And unlike the ak47, it is lightweight, highly customizable, as accurate as the m16, and also has a fullsize Assault Rifle variant.
I would also LOVE to see this baby being rethought and possibly issued.
http://www.portierramaryaire.com/imagenes/oicw.jpg
http://www.defence.co.kr/weaponbook/wea … /oicw2.jpg
The XM8 was the assault rifle version of the OICW, but without the nade launcher, scope and supercomputer for the 90's in the weapon. They made the nade launcher for the XM8 I think, but it was a much shorter version, and it didnt air-burst at a set range, which teh OICW could do.
Plus you might as well be carring an M16 or whatever witha nade launcher and about 6 bricks tbh.
lol, if you had actually done any research before making that comment you would realize that the average soldier has always had complaints about the AR-15, and in other nations about 5.56 mm in general, up to present day. and particularly amongst the most experienced soldiers that really know how to win firefights. the funny thing is how u ignorantly claim that gamers always reject the AR-15. this is actually the opposite of reality, I don't know how you botched it that bad. in fact, its commonly known that games like CSS, rainbow six, COD4, etc have largely convinced gamers that weapons like the M4 and desert eagle are great weapons. when really they are just great weapons in games where 5.56 always gets a "stopping power perk" and they dont bother you with all the obsessive cleaning that it would require to keep one feeding like they do in games.geNius wrote:
Guess how many times I've seen threads where gaming nerds think the m16/m4 is on its way out, when anyone involved in the military doesn't seem to think it's an issue.
Actually it had to be fixed many times throughout history. We should have used ak-47s instead.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
I love the M16. Im happy with it. If it aint broke, dont fix it.steelie34 wrote:
im just shocked that the US hasnt pushed for this faster. it seems like a lot of soldiers would like something bigger/better, and the brass is being so slow to act, which is so not typical of our norm of pushing new tech as fast as possible.
NATO can just use what the US uses... if we go to 6.8mm, they can too.Mek-Izzle wrote:
Wouldn't adopting 6mm calibre kinda ruin the whole NATO standardisation shit.
Tbh they should disband NATO anyway it's probably done more harm than good.
No, why would other countries spend millions on new ammunition and weapons systems just because the US did?HurricaИe wrote:
NATO can just use what the US uses... if we go to 6.8mm, they can too.Mek-Izzle wrote:
Wouldn't adopting 6mm calibre kinda ruin the whole NATO standardisation shit.
Tbh they should disband NATO anyway it's probably done more harm than good.
And ya the OICW was a cool piece of weaponry, too bad it weighed over 9,000 pounds
because we rule the world.jord wrote:
No, why would other countries spend millions on new ammunition and weapons systems just because the US did?
You wish what?Reciprocity wrote:
because we rule the world.jord wrote:
No, why would other countries spend millions on new ammunition and weapons systems just because the US did?
