Good advice, if your trying to get the kid killed. You never attack first, in karate, the defender will always use the attackers attack against him with devastating results. Especially in karate, as it is designed to block first then counter attack. Karate blocks are so powerful that can break arms and legs, then you have to ability to counter attack.IRONCHEF wrote:
Well, if you're to stand your ground, stand it. Keep a decent stance, narrow your profile to them, keep balance 50/50, don't cross your feet when moving, and move fast! If you must strike, do fast lead/straight punches...don't be doing no crazy hooks..just hit straight with a good stance and balance. If/when you do get hit (if you're still on your feet), don't assume just because you got hit you now have to fall down, feel pain, or back down or be intimidated...let it motivate you to do better! lol
Frankly, if you're in a striking match, you and your opponent will likely be spinning around in circles trying to land cheap shots...charge them and push them over or trip them some how...don't even need to strike them. Falling down like an idiot will diminish their courage..or they'll apply the above advice and charge you back.
If the above scenario has unfolded and it wasn't a "1-2" effort, you're likely on the ground grabbing each other's asses. If you're on the bottom, figure you've got one or two good super-human strength movements in you before you'll be fatigued..so use them wisely to escape or counter their dominating position. If you gain dominance on the ground, don't bother hitting him..elbow if you can..but what matters is limb manipulation. Get an arm bar going, a choke, or otherwise easy to do manipulation..or just sit on him and poke his collar bones until he submits.
In short, don't fight...run. Really, it's ok to run...the fool could pull a knife, or a friend may jump in or offer a few precise kicks..and it's all over. NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY fights fair so don't count on it..just run.
Bring a knife.
Yes, I have found good tips, especially from that vid. I have only one two more fights then I lost, thats not a good ratio. You never, EVER, want to lose a fight. Also, once you are mounted, you are fucked, a bullet to the head is practically the same just less painful.2tuff wrote:
Thanks for the tips everyone, keep em coming
Also, no martial arts arguments!
Use objects in your surroundings. Metal antennas, cars, trees, litter, doors, etc.. to your advantage. Doors = win. Broke some dude's coller bone by tricking him to go into a door frame and smashing the door on him repeatedly until he was on the ground.
lol, did I say strike first? I actually said for him to run. karate? friggen idiot. I love watching karate experts fight. My best friend growing up was a 2 degree blackbelt and trainer at his dojo. He got a knock on his door from someone dating his ex-girlfriend picking a fight..and my friend, badass as he thought, was ganked, thrown down and beaten on his porch by a guy no bigger than him, with no formal fighting skill..nada. He and I sparred often (I was boxing alot then) and street fighting and karate DO NOT work out. You'll simply have to get your ass kicked before you believe me so don't argue it here..just go out and get beat down and you'll see..seriously, go see.Superslim wrote:
Good advice, if your trying to get the kid killed. You never attack first, in karate, the defender will always use the attackers attack against him with devastating results. Especially in karate, as it is designed to block first then counter attack. Karate blocks are so powerful that can break arms and legs, then you have to ability to counter attack.
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damn straight, fights end before they start if you whip out a huge knife... unless the guy you're fighting has gunRyan wrote:
Bring a knife.
do whatever you can to not get mounted. if you get on your back, wrap your legs around his waist so he can't move around. from that position i know of like 30 different ways to get him off and put him into submission, but i cant really explain how to do it on here, i would need to show you. look around on youtube or google for jiu-jitsu and submission wrestling things. no matter how confident someone is on their feet, there is always a chance they can be taken down to the ground and end up on their back. gotta learn to fight from both sides.
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watch the last fight. it is more of a street fight than a contest.
+1!clogar wrote:
damn straight, fights end before they start if you whip out a huge knife... unless the guy you're fighting has gunRyan wrote:
Bring a knife.
2tuff, you said you are 145 pounds so i suggest you bulk up to 170 or 185 pounds then you will be strong enough to land one-punch knock-out power
yeah, go eat a sandwich then ask the question again...
Hone your abilty to conceal a pair of scissors somewhere on yourself and your ability to withdraw them in a stabbing motion toward whatever vital points present themselves in a fight.2tuff wrote:
Well I recently got into an altercation at school, that almost went to blows and could have potentially escalated even further...and it got me thinking about my personal safety and my ability to defend myself.
Now I've got mates who are as strong as bulls, and can be called on to back me up if needed...but I figure I'd better wise up on my self defense techniques just in-case I am jumped alone.
Thanks to all the people who are gonna tell me "violence is not the answer", "resolve your problems peacefully", "take karate" and all that stuff. Yeah, its great advice....but to be honest I wont be hearing it
I'm 19, 6 foot and about 145 pounds, what I'm looking for is just some tips and tricks on how to give myself the upper-hand and a better possibility to come out on top if I do get into a throwdown. Any and all SERIOUS suggestions welcome.
Thanks
If you fuck someone up bad enough, other people are less likely to fuck with you.
If you prefer a less bloody approach, a chop to the larynx usually gets the job done. I chopped a guy there as hard as I could and watched his face turn a strange tint of bluish-green before he passed out.
I'll try to avoid a martial arts arguement as it is off topic so i will keep this to this post:mtb0minime wrote:
TKD is flashy??? Wtf? Never heard that before. I guess it depends on who / where you learn from.
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=LearnUFC.Styles
that is proof that TKD is seen as flashy especially compared to linear karate
WOW! I have a simular knife right next to me. CRKT M16-12ZIRONCHEF wrote:
+1!clogar wrote:
damn straight, fights end before they start if you whip out a huge knife... unless the guy you're fighting has gunRyan wrote:
Bring a knife.
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/4703/img0370yn6.jpg
I've never ever hit a man I've put down.....I'm too busy running off down the road for that! But seriously, street fighting is no holds barred dirty street fighting. Theres no ref to blow for dirty shit. Fight hard, fight unfair, but by all means never kick a man while he's down is my motto.
Unless the other guy is busting out a glock...DoctaStrangelove wrote:
foolproof street fight strategy
i think 2tuff said he wanted to defend himself, not end up in prison
Wow,he said he got into an altercation... He never ever said he didn't start it, and he never said he wasn't the aggressor... So when he pulls out your scissor trick, stabs the guy in a vital point and kills the guy, guess what Turq, you get to charged as an accessory to murder. Great job.Turquoise wrote:
Hone your abilty to conceal a pair of scissors somewhere on yourself and your ability to withdraw them in a stabbing motion toward whatever vital points present themselves in a fight.
If you fuck someone up bad enough, other people are less likely to fuck with you.
If you prefer a less bloody approach, a chop to the larynx usually gets the job done. I chopped a guy there as hard as I could and watched his face turn a strange tint of bluish-green before he passed out.
I didn't say what part of the scissor to stab him with. If he used the handles on the guy's temple, it would probably just knock him out. The pointy parts are there if that's not intimidating enough on the first round. I would think that, at that point, the other kids would be too scared to fuck with him.
Fighting is for primitives. Carry a concealed firearm(legally of course). If someone tries to physically engage you, try to back out of the situation and get distance. If you are unable to get away from the threat, pull your firearm and give them a chance to back away. Place one between their eyes if they're stupid and don't back down.
Remember though, if you instigate someone and then use a weapon on them, you'll be going to prison.
Remember though, if you instigate someone and then use a weapon on them, you'll be going to prison.
Anticipation. When I ever get in a fight, that is key to decimation my friend.
Would convict in court either way... Same goes for the also potentially lethal "chop to the larynx" approach.
"Never go into a fight thinking what the other guy can do to you; only think about what you're going to do to him"
if all you have is defense, then you have already lost.
if all you have is defense, then you have already lost.