Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6828|UK

First saw this on Fudzilla, and went on to read the article on BBC.  Essentially for anyone not bothering to read it, the idea is, that in the futre, rather than having a PC/console at home, the games you play will be rendered in a central location, and the information will be sent to u via whatever medium you use (cable, satalite whatever), straight to your tv/monitor, and that is how u will play.  No processing done by your machine other than sending it to the monitor.  And, ofcourse, a fee for the privilage.  WHat you think?


The gaming luminaries span the games industry
The future of the games industry lies with the internet and content delivered from central servers, a panel of game luminaries has predicted.

"Everything is moving towards the network," said Neil Young, general manager of EA Los Angeles.

Phil Harrison, Sony's head of worldwide studios, said: "Public utility computing is absolutely the future of the games industry."

The panel was assembled by developer Dave Perry to discuss industry issues.

The panel included online gaming pioneer Raph Koster, Fable creator Peter Molyneux and Dungeon Siege creator Chris Taylor.

"A huge game changer for our industry is for there not to be a requirement for there to be a machine in the home," said Mr Young.

"[Instead] the game is playing as an instance on a Google server farm in Oregon, for it to be rendered, sent down the pipe and shown on a television that you paid an extra five or 10 dollars to your cable company to guarantee you had good enough bandwidth for gaming.

"That to me seems inevitable."

  Flash is pointing the way to the future more so than the current generations of hardware

Raph Koster

Mr Koster added: "The games will be playing off the same back end, and will be serving different heads of the game on different devices."

Mr Harrison pointed out there would always be an issue with delivering gaming content to players from servers due to the "speed of light".

Data sent over fibre optic networks is subject to the limitations of the speed of light, which means interactivity between the server and gamer will never have a latency below 70 milliseconds.

That could impact the kinds of experiences it was possible to offer people in the future because data could not move back and forth fast enough.

In the short term, Mr Young, said different devices, from consoles to the web and PCs, would co-exist in the home.

"For content creators your canvas just got bigger," he said.

Raph Koster, who was the lead designer on Ultima Online and Star Wars Galaxies, said the console industry was already being beaten by the web.

"Overall if you look at audience reach, quantity of games made and for that matter, although its difficult to measure, creativity, the web is kicking the console industry's ass in a major way."

He said Flash was the next big platform.


Are the days of the console numbered?

"It's pointing the way to the future more so than the current generations of hardware precisely because it is well on its way to becoming completely ubiquitous."

He said advances in the graphic possibilities of Flash in the coming year would further challenge the console business.

But he admitted that no-one was making money from Flash games at the moment.

Mr Harrison, who oversees the software line-up for the PlayStation 3, said: "In our proprietary view of a platform, it is a combination of technology, business model and consumer experience.

"The web, with Flash, is missing the business model aspect and consistency of consumer experience.

"Once it has figured it out then what you [Raph Koster] have said will become absolutely true."


Adapted from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7258120.stm
-101-InvaderZim
Member
+42|7122|Waikato, Aotearoa
I have kinda heard of rumours of something like that happening, only it wont be games but also your hard drives as well. Instead of having a conventional hard drive like you have now, you "rent" space (250GB, 500GB whatever) on a secure online database and everything you have and store and stuff will be kept your hired out database. As I said its only rumours and not fact (at least not yet)........
Tdog2007
Giggity Giggity
+25|6991|US
uh huh, id rather have my own hard drives and wutnot in my presence so I know what i put there isnt hacked without me knowing or whatever else can happen.

"rent space"...that just retarded imo

even IF this "super computer" or WTF u call it has 3 million 8800gtx's in it, no fucking way...i'm keepin my privacy tyvm
GodFather
Blademaster's bottom bitch
+387|6498|Phoenix, AZ

Tdog2007 wrote:

3 million 8800gtx's
then like 5 people could play crysis on high
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6277|The Mitten

Bell wrote:

He said Flash was the next big platform.


Adapted from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7258120.stm
Camperstrike FTW!

edit: Spelling

Last edited by Morpheus1229 (2008-02-23 23:25:32)

EE (hats
Defiance
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+438|6949

Flash games will not take over console games, or PC games. It's development and use are not flexible enough to create "better" software then gritty code.
Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|6963|Espoo, Finland
Lag.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6772|N. Ireland
That makes *so* much sense, especially for older computers.
Mitch92uK
aka [DBS]Mitch92uK
+192|6513|United Kingdom
How powerful will the "Central location" have to be though .... wow.
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6758|Somewhere else

mitch212k_2 wrote:

How powerful will the "Central location" have to be though .... wow.
Fuck, it would need its own nuclear reactor, that's for sure.

All that graphics rendering and processors, it would probably all be built on one big system, so when it fails, everybodies fucked. No thanks.
-101-InvaderZim
Member
+42|7122|Waikato, Aotearoa

Tdog2007 wrote:

uh huh, id rather have my own hard drives and wutnot in my presence so I know what i put there isnt hacked without me knowing or whatever else can happen.

"rent space"...that just retarded imo

even IF this "super computer" or WTF u call it has 3 million 8800gtx's in it, no fucking way...i'm keepin my privacy tyvm
I never said it was a good thing (or a bad thing), just that there is a rumour on the possible future of HDD space...... and yep Im with you Tdog. I would also prefer to have MY HDDs on my own PC rather than rent (or buy) space online......
mikkel
Member
+383|6880
Notice how these people are "general managers" and the like, not holding any sort of technical position. Anyone putting a few seconds of technical thought into this will know that an input-to-output delay of at the very least 50ms, probably closer to 80-100ms is wholly unacceptable. It might not sound like a lot, but it'll be extremely noticable, and extremely annoying. Much akin to that slight delay experienced by early wireless mice.

This is a "bad CIO" idea propagating through companies who wish they had more control over the hardware that they develop for. It's never, ever going to take off. It's simply not technically feasible, unless they find some way to circumvent the speed of light in transmission media.

Last edited by mikkel (2008-02-25 01:01:41)

Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|6963|Espoo, Finland

mikkel wrote:

Notice how these people are "general managers" and the like, not holding any sort of technical position. Anyone putting a few seconds of technical thought into this will know that an input-to-output delay of at the very least 50ms, probably closer to 80-100ms is wholly unacceptable. It might not sound like a lot, but it'll be extremely noticable, and extremely annoying. Much akin to that slight delay experienced by early wireless mice.

This is a "bad CIO" idea propagating through companies who wish they had more control over the hardware that they develop for. It's never, ever going to take off. It's simply not technically feasible, unless they find some way to circumvent the speed of light in transmission media.
QFT.
Bit more elaborate than my reply, lol.

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