BF2S Forums above the ignorance

Last edited by imortal (2008-02-24 21:18:56)

Des.Kmal wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I wasn't insulting. I'm saying I can't respond to a post where I don't know where the point is.

I said making an ass of yourself, not making a fool of yourself. Making a fool of yourself is just acting like an idiot, making an ass of yourself is being an idiot at the expense of others.

If you want to smoke pot, fine, stay home, stay out of my way. As soon as you step out of the house you are inconveniencing every sober person you meet. Most of us don't want to have to deal with someone who isn't in their right mind.

If you do feel the need to go out, you sure as hell better not be driving. Your irresponsibly endangers yourselves and others for no good reason.

My goal in life is to be a productive member of society, while not frequently being a prick to other people. I would say that's a pretty good goal, better than trying to get high as often as possible.

Get out of the suburbs, get a job, learn to interact with adults, learn the ways of the world and then come back and tell me who the ignorant little kid is.

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Maybe you werent insulting, but hey, now you are, but really, whos counting?

Maniac, when I get high at my house with some friends, at whos expense is that besides my own?

Isnt in their right mind....? Maniac... c'mon now. Be more mature than that. I make all A's, have one of the highest PSAT scores in my school, and made a 325/350 on the grad. test. I do alot of studying high, its quite loltastic when I take the test for what I was studying for, because I'm like "fuck fuck fuck i dont remember anything" and as SOON as I see the question I remember everything about it. Studying high is really the only way to go. Plus, my ADD is so bad, I cant study when Im sober, its too boring.

I drive fine high. Never had an accident, or even a close call when Im high. I havent seen a news report lately about a guy who "has enough THC in his lungs to get Manhatten high" wrecking into some old lady with her grandchildren in the car. Alcohol on the other hand. But hey Maniac, alcohol is legal, there is no repercussions to it amirite? This is getting ridiculous Maniac... Im not endangering others when Im high and driving, because usually, I wont drive if Im too high... you cant gauge how drunk you are to where you cant drive....

Maniac, there you go putting words into my mouth. I go with quality not quantity. I like to get uberfucked on the weekends while occasionally getting high on the weekdays. By the way, I like your condescending tone there. Chances are, I will make more money than you and have more fun. Its really a win-win for me.

I dont live in the suburbs. Youre the one acting like a kid, I've yet to say a hostile word. Your superiority complex is also immature. Just because I smoke weed doesnt make me less of a person. This is getting funnier and funnier Maniac. YOU sound like the one in the suburbs, lmfao, acting like you know what the effects of marijuana are, while never doing it and getting your information from Abovetheinfluence.com.
I have a job. I interact great with adults. I have 5 thousand dollars saved up for a plane ticket, a few weeks of rent and food, and renting a car for when I get to Australia in about a year. I have my life planned out so far and marijuana hasnt interfered WHATSOEVER.
Like I said, what does smoking weed have anything to do with learning the ways of the world? I guess getting drunk with my business partners in a VERY nice restaurant will help me learn them, because thats what my stepdad does, and hes a multi-millionaire.

What I said about adrenaline is true. I dont see why you are "loling". I guess ignorance is bliss.

imortal wrote:

Oh, and Kmal?  That study that you sourced?  Two problems with it.  First, it was designed to highlight the dangers of smoking nicotine.  Also, the grading methods used were.... not as scientific as they could have been.  I am not going to claim it is junk science (quite), but it is suspect. 

That beign said, I will grant that marijuana is less dangerous in many ways than nicotine and caffine, let alone alcohol.  Marijuana does cause significant lung damage, due to the fact that users tend to hold the smoke in longer than a tobacco cigarette.  Less carcinogens, true; but there is still damage.  The second thing is not chemical dependance, but behavioal dependance.  People coming home and "needing" a hit to relax.

I do not think that it is safe to drive 'high.' Granted, I have no doubt that you honestly believe you drive better high than sober; but most people who drive drunk think they drive just fine as well.  If you are only using your personal experience, then it is a flawed argument.  Not calling it or you wrong, just pointing out problems in your arguments.  I do not care what you do in your own home; take heroin or drain cleaner for all I care.  The issue comes when you leave your home and possibly interact with me.  Then being high is a problem.  So does being drunk on alcohol.  Anything that alters your judgement or the way you think is an issue for me when you are in public.  Tobacco gets a pass here.

Last thing.  Alcohol and tobacco are legal ONLY because they have been a part of our society for so long.  If they were discovered or newly produced today, they would be banned so fast your head would spin.

Des.Kmal wrote:

I drive fine high. Never had an accident, or even a close call when Im high. I havent seen a news report lately about a guy who "has enough THC in his lungs to get Manhatten high" wrecking into some old lady with her grandchildren in the car. Alcohol on the other hand. But hey Maniac, alcohol is legal, there is no repercussions to it amirite? This is getting ridiculous Maniac... Im not endangering others when Im high and driving, because usually, I wont drive if Im too high... you cant gauge how drunk you are to where you cant drive....

Marijuana abuse is associated with many detrimental health effects. These effects can include frequent respiratory infections, impaired memory and learning, increased heart rate, anxiety, panic attacks and tolerance. Marijuana meets the criteria for an addictive drug and animal studies suggest marijuana causes physical dependence and some people report withdrawal symptoms.11

Someone who smokes marijuana regularly may have many of the same respiratory problems that tobacco smokers do, such as daily cough and phlegm production, more frequent acute chest illnesses, a heightened risk of lung infections, and a greater tendency toward obstructed airways. Cancer of the respiratory tract and lungs may also be promoted by marijuana smoke. Marijuana has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because marijuana smoke contains 50 percent to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke.12

Marijuana's damage to short-term memory seems to occur because THC alters the way in which information is processed by the hippocampus, a brain area responsible for memory formation. In one study, researchers compared marijuana smoking and nonsmoking 12th-graders' scores on standardized tests of verbal and mathematical skills. Although all of the students had scored equally well in 4th grade, those who were heavy marijuana smokers, i.e., those who used marijuana seven or more times per week, scored significantly lower in 12th grade than nonsmokers. Another study of 129 college students found that among heavy users of marijuana critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after they had not used the drug for at least 24 hours.13

Of an estimated 106 million emergency department (ED) visits in the U.S. during 2004, the Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) estimates that 1,997,993 were drug-related. DAWN data indicate that marijuana was involved in 215,665 ED visits.14

DAWN also collects information on deaths involving drug abuse that were identified and submitted by 128 death investigation jurisdictions in 42 metropolitan areas across the United States. Cannabis ranked among the 10 most common drugs in 16 cities, including Detroit (74 deaths), Dallas (65), and Kansas City (63). Marijuana is very often reported in combination with other substances; in metropolitan areas that reported any marijuana in drug abuse deaths, an average of 79 percent of those deaths involved marijuana and at least one other substance.15

S.Lythberg wrote:

ban smoking and drinking too, I wouldn't mind.

Des.Kmal wrote:

ripfest2006 wrote:

the ignorance in this thread is overwhelming

yes. lol

they cant accept anything other than their own ideals. its funny.

THEY are why marijuana will never be legalized, not because its bad.

Havok wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

ripfest2006 wrote:

the ignorance in this thread is overwhelming

yes. lol

they cant accept anything other than their own ideals. its funny.

THEY are why marijuana will never be legalized, not because its bad.

Tell me then Kmal, why was marijuana banned in the first place if it has such apparent benefits?

Last edited by ripfest2006 (2008-02-25 13:29:35)