Well as the title says what would you do? Here are the most of the facts.
The clan in question has been around for more then three years and @ 100 members ( the # was higher , 50+ members left to start there own community.) Of course he has held himself as VERY anti-hacker. In his own words hackers would be revealed, and exposed for who they are.
Myself and my XO found out about this in late Sept., he had been banned for an "aimbot" on the PBBans system. At the time we had a tremendous amount of respect this person we called friend, so we set out to find the truth about the situation. We had been told that he had "sold" these accounts sometime earlier. The IP address was the same on the ban as the one he was playing on at the time, we did a trace, and well it led back to his local. After sometime we uncovered four more names that he had bans on form both PBBans and PunksBusted all with the saame IP.
As the BF2 Division leader I had BF2cc access, the hash had not been changed in our much less active #2 server, the same hash as one of the bans. The anecdotal evidence was also mounting, battlerecordings were coming out and his stats didn't reflect the fact that he plays on a laptop (stats better then our best player, and god knows he'll kick all our asses).
In the end most of these facts he didn't deny. He blamed his son (classy) and friends. This is his laptop were talking about. In over a year as the BF2 division leader I NEVER talked to or seen his son EVER. So in the end it was the same old alibi " My dog did it".
Well, as thing went on the #1 server was under constant attack from hackers, all attempts at streaming or any other security changes were denied, and we were given some excuses about losing access ( more BS). All the adimns could do was admin, no time for gaming, the worst of the hacks left unchecked. I resigned in early Dec.
During the next month I had a constant flood of request to do something, from my replacement down,...... the TWL team was going to leave soon if thing didn't change, and things had only gotten worse.
After some though, I set up a new home for the whole Division with all the bells and whistles , and 10 times the security. As you can understand, there are some hurt feelings about 50+ paying members leaving. We come from an ideal that was started three splits ago, and as such the names, tags and rules and regulations ( I wrote most) are similar. So as to not break from tradition they are saying the same stuff that was said about them years ago when they split from the original group ( the original founder of the whole thing is now with us).
As of late we have kept the moral high ground, keeping the "snipes" to a minimum. They can not say the same, there leader has been in our TS four times and lied every time, his word is crap now!
The situation is now that any public player that is seen on our site is banned on his. He has been posting on his forums that in fact is us banning public players and has even accused me of hacking his server ( he has a old (< hint) back door the size of Texas open, I discovered this while setting-up our new servers,.. so do most servers for that matter,( change those passwords people!), he could have been more original. Every post in his forums thats ask why, or does not agree gets deleted, we are not doing the same.
This past week I have been chatting with some players that we all know ( the BF2 community), and both had a little info for me about our former leader, you guesses it they both knew he was a hack.
This most of the situation, so the questions come to mind:
1. Do other in the BF community think that we hack because of him (You know the saying "If you play with shit you'll get shit on you")?
2. Should we expose him to the community for the Hacking POS that he is?
The clan in question has been around for more then three years and @ 100 members ( the # was higher , 50+ members left to start there own community.) Of course he has held himself as VERY anti-hacker. In his own words hackers would be revealed, and exposed for who they are.
Myself and my XO found out about this in late Sept., he had been banned for an "aimbot" on the PBBans system. At the time we had a tremendous amount of respect this person we called friend, so we set out to find the truth about the situation. We had been told that he had "sold" these accounts sometime earlier. The IP address was the same on the ban as the one he was playing on at the time, we did a trace, and well it led back to his local. After sometime we uncovered four more names that he had bans on form both PBBans and PunksBusted all with the saame IP.
As the BF2 Division leader I had BF2cc access, the hash had not been changed in our much less active #2 server, the same hash as one of the bans. The anecdotal evidence was also mounting, battlerecordings were coming out and his stats didn't reflect the fact that he plays on a laptop (stats better then our best player, and god knows he'll kick all our asses).
In the end most of these facts he didn't deny. He blamed his son (classy) and friends. This is his laptop were talking about. In over a year as the BF2 division leader I NEVER talked to or seen his son EVER. So in the end it was the same old alibi " My dog did it".
Well, as thing went on the #1 server was under constant attack from hackers, all attempts at streaming or any other security changes were denied, and we were given some excuses about losing access ( more BS). All the adimns could do was admin, no time for gaming, the worst of the hacks left unchecked. I resigned in early Dec.
During the next month I had a constant flood of request to do something, from my replacement down,...... the TWL team was going to leave soon if thing didn't change, and things had only gotten worse.
After some though, I set up a new home for the whole Division with all the bells and whistles , and 10 times the security. As you can understand, there are some hurt feelings about 50+ paying members leaving. We come from an ideal that was started three splits ago, and as such the names, tags and rules and regulations ( I wrote most) are similar. So as to not break from tradition they are saying the same stuff that was said about them years ago when they split from the original group ( the original founder of the whole thing is now with us).
As of late we have kept the moral high ground, keeping the "snipes" to a minimum. They can not say the same, there leader has been in our TS four times and lied every time, his word is crap now!
The situation is now that any public player that is seen on our site is banned on his. He has been posting on his forums that in fact is us banning public players and has even accused me of hacking his server ( he has a old (< hint) back door the size of Texas open, I discovered this while setting-up our new servers,.. so do most servers for that matter,( change those passwords people!), he could have been more original. Every post in his forums thats ask why, or does not agree gets deleted, we are not doing the same.
This past week I have been chatting with some players that we all know ( the BF2 community), and both had a little info for me about our former leader, you guesses it they both knew he was a hack.
This most of the situation, so the questions come to mind:
1. Do other in the BF community think that we hack because of him (You know the saying "If you play with shit you'll get shit on you")?
2. Should we expose him to the community for the Hacking POS that he is?
Last edited by Maximus (2008-02-23 10:15:00)
