Did I say I didn't want kids?SenorToenails wrote:
Good for you. Let's see if your decision stands in 10 years. I bet it won't.Spearhead wrote:
I'm in high school.
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Nurture or Nature
| Nurture | 46% | 46% - 13 | ||||
| Nature | 53% | 53% - 15 | ||||
| Total: 28 | ||||||
Then why reply to my post?Spearhead wrote:
Did I say I didn't want kids?SenorToenails wrote:
Good for you. Let's see if your decision stands in 10 years. I bet it won't.Spearhead wrote:
I'm in high school.
Because having kids isn't for everyone, regardless of the natural urge. I know of a lot of people who don't have kids. Even though they could.SenorToenails wrote:
Then why reply to my post?Spearhead wrote:
Did I say I didn't want kids?SenorToenails wrote:
Good for you. Let's see if your decision stands in 10 years. I bet it won't.
I don't want kids, and might not anyways, here's way:SenorToenails wrote:
He said in another thread that his in 16 (I think). He is saying that he will never want kids--that will most likely turn out to be false. But his ideas on the world will be turned topsy-turvy when he does have kids, and he has to raise them.Mitch wrote:
Idk how old he is now, if your a teenager i wouldnt expect it yet, but think of when your 65 and your lonely and need help. And realize that you didn't contribute to your family... And when you die, you have no one to take over your progress in life.
-I don't like romantic relationships too much
-Any woman attracted to me would be scared away by my personality
-I'd only willingly date someone who would get an abortion of she got knocked up
-I just don't fucking want to deal with all that raising kids shit
-I feel there are more important things in life.
I'd rather spend most of my adult life living by myself and doing reclusive stuff. I hate kids, they scream, they cry, and basically when you have kids your whole life is thrown out the window. Wanna go down to the diner down the street and buy a cheesburger? Sorry! You can't! You have to buy diapers!
Same here...Spark wrote:
Where is the 'both' option?
I'm 28, and I still feel kind of like how Spearhead said. The idea of being a father scares the hell out of me still, but add the state of the world to the equation and the decision is certain....SenorToenails wrote:
Good for you. Let's see if your decision stands in 10 years. I bet it won't.Spearhead wrote:
I'm in high school.
I didn't mean to imply that everyone will want to have kids one day. I did mean that many people will 'decide' to not have kids when they are in high-school, but that decision changes later in life.Turquoise wrote:
I'm 28, and I still feel kind of like how Spearhead said. The idea of being a father scares the hell out of me still, but add the state of the world to the equation and the decision is certain....
*nods* Understood... You're correct that most people change their minds, and most sensible high school students don't want to be fathers at that young of an age.SenorToenails wrote:
I didn't mean to imply that everyone will want to have kids one day. I did mean that many people will 'decide' to not have kids when they are in high-school, but that decision changes later in life.Turquoise wrote:
I'm 28, and I still feel kind of like how Spearhead said. The idea of being a father scares the hell out of me still, but add the state of the world to the equation and the decision is certain....
Probably everyone goes through the 'know-it-all' stage in high school. But, there is a marked difference between not having kids 'ever' and 'anytime soon'. I'm 22, and I don't want kids ... yet. I can barely take care of myself financially (graduate student = poor). I certainly can't add a child to the mix.Turquoise wrote:
*nods* Understood... You're correct that most people change their minds, and most sensible high school students don't want to be fathers at that young of an age.
I'm in the same boat, but you live in NY, so you're taxed out the wazoo anyway. I'd probably be homeless if they taxed me that much....
*fart noise* I'm different from other people. I am a very hard person to be around, I easily boil over, and if I hypothetically had a kid they'd be fucked up in the head. One thing to note - my real name is not Morgan, but I'd like to change my name to Morgan Brikiin. I'd rather not "continue the family name."SenorToenails wrote:
Probably everyone goes through the 'know-it-all' stage in high school. But, there is a marked difference between not having kids 'ever' and 'anytime soon'. I'm 22, and I don't want kids ... yet. I can barely take care of myself financially (graduate student = poor). I certainly can't add a child to the mix.Turquoise wrote:
*nods* Understood... You're correct that most people change their minds, and most sensible high school students don't want to be fathers at that young of an age.
I disagree with most structures society is in. For example, I disagree with the woman taking the guy's last name when two people get married, I disagree with the idea that children are identified as the child of their father. What I really hate is how when someone talks about their "family history," it's usually the paternal side of the family, not the maternal side of the family that's focused on.
It'd be very rare that a women would share my beliefs. I have little interest in romantic relationships, also. And to make sure I don't "change my mind," I'd like to get a vasectomy at 18.
Fallen, I'd imagine finding a woman that thinks the way you do would be rather easy in California.
Nurture. It is not biologically natural to be monogamous.
You know, there are plenty of worse things a preschooler might want to do someday than *gasp* actually get married and have a family. Pull yourself together.FallenMorgan wrote:
I don't like the concept of five year olds wanting to get married and have kids someday.
Yeah, if you look at times back before intelligence, men had a whole ton of wives because they felt it was a natural way of things. Just like the idea of having 20 kids or something.DrunkFace wrote:
Nurture. It is not biologically natural to be monogamous.
So it's perfectly fine for a girl to want to enslave herself under the yoke of the male gender?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
You know, there are plenty of worse things a preschooler might want to do someday than *gasp* actually get married and have a family. Pull yourself together.FallenMorgan wrote:
I don't like the concept of five year olds wanting to get married and have kids someday.
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Maybe some people don't look at marriage as an "enslavement" other than in jest?FallenMorgan wrote:
So it's perfectly fine for a girl to want to enslave herself under the yoke of the male gender?
You've left out the risk the male takes that a lady'll get tired of him and rob him of just about everything he owns. Kids, dog, house, car and DVD's. In such cases, with any luck, a duffel bag full of his underwear, socks and ties will be on the porch when he gets back from work.FallenMorgan wrote:
So it's perfectly fine for a girl to want to enslave herself under the yoke of the male gender?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
You know, there are plenty of worse things a preschooler might want to do someday than *gasp* actually get married and have a family. Pull yourself together.FallenMorgan wrote:
I don't like the concept of five year olds wanting to get married and have kids someday.
In any case, the risks are irrelevant compared to the enormous benefit society gains from proper family, and the desire to eventually host one should be encouraged.
Sooner or later everyone wants kids, at least way over 90%. Those that say they do not want them are either too young, too poor or too focused on their lives and/or careers to even consider such a situation. Many people who insist they they do not and never wanted kids, like my aunt who is now over 40 and too late to have kids, has finally conceded that she would have had them. Its easy to bring up influences through society or religion but the matter of the fact is that it is natural to have kids and nothing more on this earth is more special to an individual who looks into the eyes of their newly born baby. Ask anyone who has had kids including your parents and ask them what was the most important and special moment in their lives.
Here's what I don't like. In my 7th grade health book, there was a chapter on marriage. Nowhere did it say that you don't HAVE to get married, it just said made up benefits of marriage, no obvious risks of getting married, and basically said "get married and have kids." Bull crap.
There are many legal protections gained from marriage also. Nothing says you have to get married.FallenMorgan wrote:
Here's what I don't like. In my 7th grade health book, there was a chapter on marriage. Nowhere did it say that you don't HAVE to get married, it just said made up benefits of marriage, no obvious risks of getting married, and basically said "get married and have kids." Bull crap.
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Did you go to a Christian school? I have no recollection of anything like that, but it was around the early 90's.FallenMorgan wrote:
Here's what I don't like. In my 7th grade health book, there was a chapter on marriage. Nowhere did it say that you don't HAVE to get married, it just said made up benefits of marriage, no obvious risks of getting married, and basically said "get married and have kids." Bull crap.
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I homeschooled since the 7th grade. The Health class was the stupidest piece of shit ever.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Did you go to a Christian school? I have no recollection of anything that, but it was around the early 90's.FallenMorgan wrote:
Here's what I don't like. In my 7th grade health book, there was a chapter on marriage. Nowhere did it say that you don't HAVE to get married, it just said made up benefits of marriage, no obvious risks of getting married, and basically said "get married and have kids." Bull crap.
Why?FallenMorgan wrote:
I homeschooled since the 7th grade. The Health class was the stupidest piece of shit ever.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Did you go to a Christian school? I have no recollection of anything that, but it was around the early 90's.FallenMorgan wrote:
Here's what I don't like. In my 7th grade health book, there was a chapter on marriage. Nowhere did it say that you don't HAVE to get married, it just said made up benefits of marriage, no obvious risks of getting married, and basically said "get married and have kids." Bull crap.
Such as?SenorToenails wrote:
There are many legal protections gained from marriage also.
One important one is that inheritance tends to be a bit more deadlocked than if you're just living together.DrunkFace wrote:
Such as?SenorToenails wrote:
There are many legal protections gained from marriage also.