What do you think?
Poll
Should Drug Addicts Go to Jail?
| Yes, they are breaking the law | 27% | 27% - 37 | ||||
| Only after being to rehab and being caught again | 27% | 27% - 37 | ||||
| No, they are sick and jail would make things even worse | 33% | 33% - 45 | ||||
| Other | 11% | 11% - 16 | ||||
| Total: 135 | ||||||
the law is the law
You do the crime, you do the time.
No. Because taking drugs should not be illegal. Selling them should be more illegal though, especially highly addictive, very harmful ones.
the demise of the few for the salvation of the many.
There shouldn't be acceptions to law breaking. The real question should be if the laws should be changed to support drug addition rehabilitation, which it doesn't, so yes, they should go to jail for "breaking the law" not for "being addicted to drugs."
Drug addicts don't go to jail because they're addicted to drugs. They go to jail for possession, being under their influence, or otherwise trafficking. As a drug addict goes to jail, they get to suffer from withdrawal, which is a nice little benefit to their incarceration.
Drug addicts don't go to jail because they're addicted to drugs. They go to jail for possession, being under their influence, or otherwise trafficking. As a drug addict goes to jail, they get to suffer from withdrawal, which is a nice little benefit to their incarceration.
You can't use drugs without possession.IRONCHEF wrote:
There shouldn't be acceptions to law breaking. The real question should be if the laws should be changed to support drug addition rehabilitation, which it doesn't, so yes, they should go to jail for "breaking the law" not for "being addicted to drugs."
Drug addicts don't go to jail because they're addicted to drugs. They go to jail for possession, being under their influence, or otherwise trafficking. As a drug addict goes to jail, they get to suffer from withdrawal, which is a nice little benefit to their incarceration.
DOING the drug IMO isn't a horrible, long jail sentence thing. Putting others in danger is pretty deserving though, and same with dealing (I'm talking about the hard core stuff here).
Drug addicts should go to rehab. It's far easier to rehabilitate a drug addict than to "rehabilitate" a serial killer, mass murderer, child rapist, etc.
Drug addicts should go to rehab. It's far easier to rehabilitate a drug addict than to "rehabilitate" a serial killer, mass murderer, child rapist, etc.
The Jail time acts as a deterrent for most people, otherwise everyone would be doing it if there were no repurcussions if you were caught using it.
And in general it would be bad for society if everyone did drugs, Alcohol etc.. is bad enough on society.
And this is coming from someone who drinks and smokes alot of weed
EDIT: But I'm NOT an addict, no way near
I mean I'm not even addicted to cigs and I've had so many now, but I never need one
And in general it would be bad for society if everyone did drugs, Alcohol etc.. is bad enough on society.
And this is coming from someone who drinks and smokes alot of weed
EDIT: But I'm NOT an addict, no way near
I mean I'm not even addicted to cigs and I've had so many now, but I never need one
Last edited by Mek-Izzle (2008-02-29 13:21:01)
As stated in the other thread. People go to jail for possession and distribution. The only other reasons would be violating the law under the influence. It's not punishment for getting high, it's punishment for criminal behavior. I've seen obvious 'high" people standing right next to Police officers at big events. The Police can't do anything unless they present a threat to the community.There are police out there who genuinely care about these people also. Sometimes they will take them in for a couple hours on a minor violation just to get them sober and help prevent them doing worse to themselves.
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It's beyond moronic and stupid to spend money jailing people for use and/or addiction. Laws do not necessarily represent right, wrong or justice. Sometimes they just are and just exist. They are a "best attempt" at justice or sometimes a bad attempt or even an outdated attempt. As if slavery being a law - could make it right by merely existing in case law, as precedence or as a legal code somewhere. You commit a criminal act procuring those funds for your habit - jail time for you - else no.
Last edited by topal63 (2008-02-29 13:18:01)
way too broad of a question. every case is different.
What is the difference between drugs and alcohol? Why can you keep alcohol in your home, but you can't have drugs? And how do you define possession? Is there a minimum in the US to be considered possession? Or any amount of cocaine is considered possession? How is the law with that?Kmarion wrote:
As stated in the other thread. People go to jail for possession and distribution. The only other reasons would be violating the law under the influence. It's not punishment for getting high, it's punishment for criminal behavior. I've seen obvious 'high" people standing right next to Police officers at big events. The Police can't do anything unless they present a threat to the community.There are police out there who genuinely care about these people also. Sometimes they will take them in for a couple hours on a minor violation just to get them sober and help prevent them doing worse to themselves.
Last edited by sergeriver (2008-02-29 13:58:04)
When you have a certain amount it goes to "intent to distribute". The punishment is different for those who have it for personal use.sergeriver wrote:
What is the difference between drugs and alcohol? Why you can keep alcohol in your home, but you can't have drugs? And how do you define possession? Is there a minimum in the US to be considered possession? Or any amount of cocaine is considered possession? How is the law with that?Kmarion wrote:
As stated in the other thread. People go to jail for possession and distribution. The only other reasons would be violating the law under the influence. It's not punishment for getting high, it's punishment for criminal behavior. I've seen obvious 'high" people standing right next to Police officers at big events. The Police can't do anything unless they present a threat to the community.There are police out there who genuinely care about these people also. Sometimes they will take them in for a couple hours on a minor violation just to get them sober and help prevent them doing worse to themselves.
There is no difference, alcohol is a drug.. and I'm getting tired of repeating my opinion to this point tbh. See other thread..lol
Xbone Stormsurgezz
We should end the War on Drugs gradually. Part of this involves a greater focus on rehabilitation and less of a focus on incarceration.
Totally agree with this. Every case has to be taken individually. A poll of a few options just doesn't cover the complexities of these types of cases. There are so many variables and outcomes that it is impossible to choose one of your options....except for "other". Its just too complex. I will say that if you are a repeat offender then something needs to be done legally and mentally. Certain crimes deserve punishment and certain crimes deserve a second look. If you kill under the influence, that is something that cant be excused. If you run over a stop sign and only hurt yourself and you are a first time offender then maybe they deserve help more than anything else. The reasons, causes, consequences vary so widely that you have to look at each case individually. It an almost impossible question to truly answer.ig wrote:
way too broad of a question. every case is different.
Seems to me that being in jail is a pretty good cold-turkey treatment for addiction...
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If that was the case, there would be far fewer repeat offenders and there would be less drug trafficking in the prison system itself.FEOS wrote:
Seems to me that being in jail is a pretty good cold-turkey treatment for addiction...
No doubt.Turquoise wrote:
We should end the War on Drugs gradually. Part of this involves a greater focus on rehabilitation and less of a focus on incarceration.
Possession, in most states as far as I know, is a felony crime. That as an offense the penalty escalates in proportion to quantity of the illegal substance confiscated. Tis stupid...
Here's what should be illegal and have serious consequences (felony):
Selling to kids.
Using kids for distribution to other kids.
Criminal offenses committed under the influence or in direct relation to a habit.
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Consumption under the age of 18 or 21 (lessor penalty of course, misdemeanor).
Simple possession (for legal adults) in any quantity. ANY!!! Should not be illegal.
Last edited by topal63 (2008-02-29 13:42:35)
Interesting.Bertster7 wrote:
No. Because taking drugs should not be illegal. Selling them should be more illegal though, especially highly addictive, very harmful ones.
1) If a drug is harmful why wouldn't it be considered illegal?
2) How would one get drugs without someone selling?
As far as the OP, the law is that you get a few shots to straighten yourself out, then you go to jail. I don't have a problem with that...but there is a grey area of what legal stuff should be illegal and what illegal stuff shouldn't be.
Oh, and it's supposed to fund the bad guys, although then we can debate about who's bad and who's good...
...and so it goes.
Agreed on all counts...topal63 wrote:
No doubt.Turquoise wrote:
We should end the War on Drugs gradually. Part of this involves a greater focus on rehabilitation and less of a focus on incarceration.
Possession, in most states as far as I know, is a felony crime. That as an offense the penalty escalates in proportion to quantity of the illegal substance confiscated. Tis stupid...
Here's what should be illegal and have serious consequences (felony):
Selling to kids.
Using kids for distribution to other kids.
Criminal offenses committed under the influence or in direct relation to a habit.
&
Consumption under the age of 18 or 21 (lessor penalty of course, misdemeanor).
Simple possession (for legal adults) in any quantity. ANY!!! Should not be illegal.
yes because people have never used drugs in prison.FEOS wrote:
Seems to me that being in jail is a pretty good cold-turkey treatment for addiction...
"here you go drug user, you get to be sent to hang out with the people who like to deal drugs"
LOL ... About your post - is it sarcasm or serious? Either wayYaocelotl wrote:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … _Drugs.png
The California Governator did drugs.