It depends on what they are addicted to. Sometimes, Jail can help them out with their addiction.
Poll
Should Drug Addicts Go to Jail?
| Yes, they are breaking the law | 27% | 27% - 37 | ||||
| Only after being to rehab and being caught again | 27% | 27% - 37 | ||||
| No, they are sick and jail would make things even worse | 33% | 33% - 45 | ||||
| Other | 11% | 11% - 16 | ||||
| Total: 135 | ||||||
Being an asshole again? No, I wasn't sniffing when i made that topic about hating US leaders.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
that explains a lot..Sup wrote:
sniff cocaine from time to time.
although by the time it gets to you, its mostly ajax.
So you support having someone hand them a fatal dosage and say, "enjoy"?lowing wrote:
Nope, but if they TOOK a fatal dose by their own free will, I couldn't care less
Iowing talks like a drug addict attacked him with a needle once. You don't care yet you still post here?Turquoise wrote:
So you support having someone hand them a fatal dosage and say, "enjoy"?lowing wrote:
Nope, but if they TOOK a fatal dose by their own free will, I couldn't care less
cocaine is awesome!.Sup wrote:
Being an asshole again? No, I wasn't sniffing when i made that topic about hating US leaders.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
that explains a lot..Sup wrote:
sniff cocaine from time to time.
although by the time it gets to you, its mostly ajax.
snorting powder up your nostrils is the bees knees!
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Perhaps, but I did not dig that deep into the OP for my opinion on what to do with drug addicts.Turquoise wrote:
I suppose I don't have much sympathy for them either, but.... I do have sympathy for the other people affected by them. Rehab is the most logical way to protect those who live near addicts.lowing wrote:
I am basing my opinion on a complete lack of sympathy for the colossally stupid and irresponsible..
But, in my defense the OP was what to do with drug addicts, not how to protect a drug addicts potential victims
You tried it?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
cocaine is awesome!.Sup wrote:
Being an asshole again? No, I wasn't sniffing when i made that topic about hating US leaders.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
that explains a lot.
although by the time it gets to you, its mostly ajax.
are you a federal investigator?.Sup wrote:
You tried it?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
cocaine is awesome!.Sup wrote:
Being an asshole again? No, I wasn't sniffing when i made that topic about hating US leaders.
not cocaine but I have this monster heroin problem.
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Actually, I have never been attacked by a drug addict...I was posting here because I was in a one on one discussion with a person whom I have had many conversations with, covering many topics. Rarely is there a topic I have discussed on this forum that directly affected me..Sup wrote:
Iowing talks like a drug addict attacked him with a needle once. You don't care yet you still post here?Turquoise wrote:
So you support having someone hand them a fatal dosage and say, "enjoy"?lowing wrote:
Nope, but if they TOOK a fatal dose by their own free will, I couldn't care less
That person handing the addict a needle would be a dealer. So honestly I do not care3 if a dealer kills off his clientele or not. Inversely I do not care if the addict kills off his supplier or not.Turquoise wrote:
So you support having someone hand them a fatal dosage and say, "enjoy"?lowing wrote:
Nope, but if they TOOK a fatal dose by their own free will, I couldn't care less
If the drug addict isn't involved in a crime that could hurt others... dealing/stealing for their habit... driving while intoxicated... etc... than jail is not the best solution... I have seen all types of addicts from bartending throughout the years... They are mostly good people that have made really bad choices... It's a combination of genetics and environment... a coping mechanism and a way to fit in in some cases... nothing happens in a vacuum and more than just the addict are affected... but rehab or 12 step is a better solution than jail...
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Unless someone else was injecting them with drugs and shoving pipes in their mouths, it was the conscious decision of the user to partake in the illegal activity. Made bed >>> within it, sleep
LOL...Kmarion wrote:
One way to deal with them.
I doubt that's actually true.IRONCHEF wrote:
As a drug addict goes to jail, they get to suffer from withdrawal, which is a nice little benefit to their incarceration.
It's certainly not in the UK - drugs are (so I understand) easy to get in jail.
I believe the situation in US prisons is similar (but I may be wrong on that).
I'd imagine it's probably worse in our prisons than in the U.K.'s.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
I doubt that's actually true.IRONCHEF wrote:
As a drug addict goes to jail, they get to suffer from withdrawal, which is a nice little benefit to their incarceration.
It's certainly not in the UK - drugs are (so I understand) easy to get in jail.
I believe the situation in US prisons is similar (but I may be wrong on that).
Drug addictions are a sickness in modern societies, and choosing not to help these people will end with more sick people and crime. This isn't a matter of responsibility only. I never tried one marijuana cigar, not even one but most of my friends did. And some of them did cocaine too. And one of them ended being a drug addict and I tell you this guy needed help, coz he was sick. He was drinking and on drugs the whole day coz he was sick. How you choose to neglect them the right to be ok again is way beyond my understanding.lowing wrote:
and do you realize that if people took responsibility for themselves and their actions there would be ZERO drug related crimes in America??Turquoise wrote:
Lowing, do you realize that, if no rehabs existed, there would actually be MORE drug related crime in America, not less?
Uhhhh depends what the consequence of the their addiction is to society. If they happily overdose in the isolation of their own home then let them do it.
If they sell it or are generally just dangerous mofes they should be locked up and injected with a hibernation antidote.
If they sell it or are generally just dangerous mofes they should be locked up and injected with a hibernation antidote.
Easy, they forfeited their "right to be ok" on their own free will. I have little time or sympathy for anyone that CHOOSES to do drugs.sergeriver wrote:
Drug addictions are a sickness in modern societies, and choosing not to help these people will end with more sick people and crime. This isn't a matter of responsibility only. I never tried one marijuana cigar, not even one but most of my friends did. And some of them did cocaine too. And one of them ended being a drug addict and I tell you this guy needed help, coz he was sick. He was drinking and on drugs the whole day coz he was sick. How you choose to neglect them the right to be ok again is way beyond my understanding.lowing wrote:
and do you realize that if people took responsibility for themselves and their actions there would be ZERO drug related crimes in America??Turquoise wrote:
Lowing, do you realize that, if no rehabs existed, there would actually be MORE drug related crime in America, not less?
My efforts and attention are better spent on those people who have a "sickness" not of the own free will. Cancer, Cystic Fibrosis, AIDS, etc..
Drug use is a choice, and that choice is made before an addiction is born. I will also tell you that the second I found out my friends were into drugs, I would have found new friends. As a matter of fact, I have done exactly that.
Most of my friends were into drugs just to party, but you can't leave your friends when they have troubles.lowing wrote:
Easy, they forfeited their "right to be ok" on their own free will. I have little time or sympathy for anyone that CHOOSES to do drugs.sergeriver wrote:
Drug addictions are a sickness in modern societies, and choosing not to help these people will end with more sick people and crime. This isn't a matter of responsibility only. I never tried one marijuana cigar, not even one but most of my friends did. And some of them did cocaine too. And one of them ended being a drug addict and I tell you this guy needed help, coz he was sick. He was drinking and on drugs the whole day coz he was sick. How you choose to neglect them the right to be ok again is way beyond my understanding.lowing wrote:
and do you realize that if people took responsibility for themselves and their actions there would be ZERO drug related crimes in America??
My efforts and attention are better spent on those people who have a "sickness" not of the own free will. Cancer, Cystic Fibrosis, AIDS, etc..
Drug use is a choice, and that choice is made before an addiction is born. I will also tell you that the second I found out my friends were into drugs, I would have found new friends. As a matter of fact, I have done exactly that.
Self induced troubles do not fall under friendship guidelines. If he were a friend, he would not be derailing your life along with his, by his drug use.sergeriver wrote:
Most of my friends were into drugs just to party, but you can't leave your friends when they have troubles.lowing wrote:
Easy, they forfeited their "right to be ok" on their own free will. I have little time or sympathy for anyone that CHOOSES to do drugs.sergeriver wrote:
Drug addictions are a sickness in modern societies, and choosing not to help these people will end with more sick people and crime. This isn't a matter of responsibility only. I never tried one marijuana cigar, not even one but most of my friends did. And some of them did cocaine too. And one of them ended being a drug addict and I tell you this guy needed help, coz he was sick. He was drinking and on drugs the whole day coz he was sick. How you choose to neglect them the right to be ok again is way beyond my understanding.
My efforts and attention are better spent on those people who have a "sickness" not of the own free will. Cancer, Cystic Fibrosis, AIDS, etc..
Drug use is a choice, and that choice is made before an addiction is born. I will also tell you that the second I found out my friends were into drugs, I would have found new friends. As a matter of fact, I have done exactly that.
Your quality of life is also governed by who you choose to share that life with, in any proportion.
Aren't most addicts just people who started off as social drug users??
Last edited by lowing (2008-03-01 03:42:50)
Laws are made on what a society deems acceptable. And as more people relax their views on mild drugs, such as Cannabis the "punishment" should be relaxed accordingly.
The only way to get put in jail for possession of drugs is if you go about the streets starting shit. Take it in your own home and it doesn't matter.
I don't know if that's a controversial post or not. But I'll stick by it.
The only way to get put in jail for possession of drugs is if you go about the streets starting shit. Take it in your own home and it doesn't matter.
I don't know if that's a controversial post or not. But I'll stick by it.
I say legalize it all, and tax the shit out of it. If people still wanna blow their minds, they are more than welcome to, with my compliments, and not my money.jord wrote:
Laws are made on what a society deems acceptable. And as more people relax their views on mild drugs, such as Cannabis the "punishment" should be relaxed accordingly.
The only way to get put in jail for possession of drugs is if you go about the streets starting shit. Take it in your own home and it doesn't matter.
I don't know if that's a controversial post or not. But I'll stick by it.
I think a lot of people are thinking this. Shame our politicians are out of touch with modern society. Maybe if they do agree with legalising it they'll get plastered with a drug user title and lose any credibility they ever had...lowing wrote:
I say legalize it all, and tax the shit out of it. If people still wanna blow their minds, they are more than welcome to, with my compliments, and not my money.jord wrote:
Laws are made on what a society deems acceptable. And as more people relax their views on mild drugs, such as Cannabis the "punishment" should be relaxed accordingly.
The only way to get put in jail for possession of drugs is if you go about the streets starting shit. Take it in your own home and it doesn't matter.
I don't know if that's a controversial post or not. But I'll stick by it.
I never was affected by their addiction. They knew they could not carry drugs in my car, and that was all.lowing wrote:
Self induced troubles do not fall under friendship guidelines. If he were a friend, he would not be derailing your life along with his, by his drug use.sergeriver wrote:
Most of my friends were into drugs just to party, but you can't leave your friends when they have troubles.lowing wrote:
Easy, they forfeited their "right to be ok" on their own free will. I have little time or sympathy for anyone that CHOOSES to do drugs.
My efforts and attention are better spent on those people who have a "sickness" not of the own free will. Cancer, Cystic Fibrosis, AIDS, etc..
Drug use is a choice, and that choice is made before an addiction is born. I will also tell you that the second I found out my friends were into drugs, I would have found new friends. As a matter of fact, I have done exactly that.
Your quality of life is also governed by who you choose to share that life with, in any proportion.
Aren't most addicts just people who started off as social drug users??