But the problem is that the law of averages says that the majority of people who vote on polls like that are the ones with strong negative views. Everyone else can't be bothered so it isn't representative of the BF2 playing majority
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This may be correct, but if I read all these posts about the new patch, there are ppl like you in here, who can look at things in an objective way. Most of the voters were picking the golden middle so far, second place is patch 1.2 as it is...Octavarium wrote:
But the problem is that the law of averages says that the majority of people who vote on polls like that are the ones with strong negative views. Everyone else can't be bothered so it isn't representative of the BF2 playing majority
Ok... enough. I'm tired of the complaining.
Has anyone played call of duity 2? When you aim, you actually hit what you're aiming at.
I'm not an expert but when I'm sniping in bf2 and aiming right at someones head and I miss (1.12) I get pissed. When I try to take down a helo or jet and was never successful on jets and only 1 quarter successful on helos (1.12) what fun is that.
I played 1.2 alot and last night on Ghost town... we got our asses handed to us. By helos. They adapted.
Anyone complaining are those who had a K/D ratio that was unreal. They could be consitered the noobs. They found an exploit and got good at it and that's all they did. As for plain whores... they got good at it and are now complaining because they die once and a while. Who cares.
1.2 rocks for those of us who don't have 10 hours a day to hone our skills.
have a nice day and please stop creating new threads on an old subject. I'm sick of "OMFG aa"!!!!!!!
just play the game... who cares!!!!
Has anyone played call of duity 2? When you aim, you actually hit what you're aiming at.
I'm not an expert but when I'm sniping in bf2 and aiming right at someones head and I miss (1.12) I get pissed. When I try to take down a helo or jet and was never successful on jets and only 1 quarter successful on helos (1.12) what fun is that.
I played 1.2 alot and last night on Ghost town... we got our asses handed to us. By helos. They adapted.
Anyone complaining are those who had a K/D ratio that was unreal. They could be consitered the noobs. They found an exploit and got good at it and that's all they did. As for plain whores... they got good at it and are now complaining because they die once and a while. Who cares.
1.2 rocks for those of us who don't have 10 hours a day to hone our skills.
have a nice day and please stop creating new threads on an old subject. I'm sick of "OMFG aa"!!!!!!!
just play the game... who cares!!!!
The patch is fine, it just needs another tweak,if you should be able to jump and throw anything its med and ammo packs which now is impossible.I noticed people still jump and dive btw.rockets and some shots are blanks and they need to fix that.
The patch isn't fine. Some things:
- PKM is overpowered. PKM fest all the way.
- AA has gotten way to strong http://media.putfile.com/zataraa
- Dolphin diving disabled, but going prone and standing up again takes 2 seconds now. And that is ridiculous.
- Bunny hopping disabled, but throwing medpacks/resupply packages/c4 while jumping isn't possible anymore.
- So basically the only way to destroy armored vehicles is getting the AT kit. C4 has gotten way harder. That means armor gets an advantage to infantry.
Join a Karkand server and you'll get to know what I mean.
EA listened to the majority. But what majority exactly? From which people does this majority exist? The people who whined about the bunny hoppers, dolphin divers etc. etc. The people who got killed a lot. And EA listened to them.
The game has gotten a slow-paced, 'realistic' game. So the people who suck can also get themselves some kills.
So, I gues 9/10% of the people who like the patch, are so-called 'noobs'. The other 1/10 really don't care. They like reading all the comments like this one.
- PKM is overpowered. PKM fest all the way.
- AA has gotten way to strong http://media.putfile.com/zataraa
- Dolphin diving disabled, but going prone and standing up again takes 2 seconds now. And that is ridiculous.
- Bunny hopping disabled, but throwing medpacks/resupply packages/c4 while jumping isn't possible anymore.
- So basically the only way to destroy armored vehicles is getting the AT kit. C4 has gotten way harder. That means armor gets an advantage to infantry.
Join a Karkand server and you'll get to know what I mean.
EA listened to the majority. But what majority exactly? From which people does this majority exist? The people who whined about the bunny hoppers, dolphin divers etc. etc. The people who got killed a lot. And EA listened to them.
The game has gotten a slow-paced, 'realistic' game. So the people who suck can also get themselves some kills.
So, I gues 9/10% of the people who like the patch, are so-called 'noobs'. The other 1/10 really don't care. They like reading all the comments like this one.
I don't usually use forums, but I think it's appropriate to chime in here.
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For one, I am very pissed off at the patch. I am an avid helo pilot, and I have learned how to stay up in the air and safe from stingers. Now, I am NOT invincible, and occasionally a FAV or stinger will catch me wrong, but I learned how to overcome and how to become an above average pilot. Most of these people I've noticed who complained about these "jet whores" and "helo whores" seriously don't understand the proper way to take them down. Being a helo pilot, I properly learned how to use actual thinking power and skill to take them down, not just hop in a random stinger, fire blindly, and then go to EA/Dice complaining they couldn't get the job done because they didn't have half a brain. And the sadder part? EA/Dice listened. In BF1942, I met some extremely good jet pilots. They were almost invincible. Yes, I might have complained, but then I realized the only way to take down a good jet pilot was to think like a good jet pilot. By adjusting our team's strategy, we had him down in 5 minutes, and kept him down. What did we do differently? We just learned the path he flys, and met him suprisingly on the other end. Needless to say, we felt good we acomplished the job and didn't whine to EA cause he should be brought down.
People that say this patch is perfect - seriously - probably has the intelligence of a 4 year old. The game is now reduced to PKM sniping and AA fanboys. Who knows, maybe in the next patch we'll all be reduced to throwing rocks at each other while EA strengthens the medic whores who get 378479 points a game.
Since the patch has come out, I've adjusted my helo playing style, and no, I never go the same way twice, even before this patch, and I'm not stupid enough to try to cap a flag, run the same route, or fly 100 feet in the air over 5 stinger patches. But what myself, and other pilots are pissed off now, is the missle lock is TO strong, and the vehicles hit points have been reduced. I was dogfighting in a plane the other day against a decent pilot, and he did a 180 under me and curled the opposite way. As soon as he was at least 100 ft BEHIND me, I fired my missles - to test and see just how the 1.3 affected them. They did a complete 180, went the other way, and killed him. So now I don't even have to see my target and I can kill him. Fair? Now, apparently all I need is the intelligence of a 4 year old to play the game.
I'm going to continute playing BF2, but I'm going to adjust my style once more, and this time I will ONLY target stinger fanboys, and make them cry more. But as soon as a really good mod for BF2 comes out, I'm porting over forever.
Oh, and for those of you who don't think I can fire a gun? Look at my stats - especially Carbine Kills.
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For one, I am very pissed off at the patch. I am an avid helo pilot, and I have learned how to stay up in the air and safe from stingers. Now, I am NOT invincible, and occasionally a FAV or stinger will catch me wrong, but I learned how to overcome and how to become an above average pilot. Most of these people I've noticed who complained about these "jet whores" and "helo whores" seriously don't understand the proper way to take them down. Being a helo pilot, I properly learned how to use actual thinking power and skill to take them down, not just hop in a random stinger, fire blindly, and then go to EA/Dice complaining they couldn't get the job done because they didn't have half a brain. And the sadder part? EA/Dice listened. In BF1942, I met some extremely good jet pilots. They were almost invincible. Yes, I might have complained, but then I realized the only way to take down a good jet pilot was to think like a good jet pilot. By adjusting our team's strategy, we had him down in 5 minutes, and kept him down. What did we do differently? We just learned the path he flys, and met him suprisingly on the other end. Needless to say, we felt good we acomplished the job and didn't whine to EA cause he should be brought down.
People that say this patch is perfect - seriously - probably has the intelligence of a 4 year old. The game is now reduced to PKM sniping and AA fanboys. Who knows, maybe in the next patch we'll all be reduced to throwing rocks at each other while EA strengthens the medic whores who get 378479 points a game.
Since the patch has come out, I've adjusted my helo playing style, and no, I never go the same way twice, even before this patch, and I'm not stupid enough to try to cap a flag, run the same route, or fly 100 feet in the air over 5 stinger patches. But what myself, and other pilots are pissed off now, is the missle lock is TO strong, and the vehicles hit points have been reduced. I was dogfighting in a plane the other day against a decent pilot, and he did a 180 under me and curled the opposite way. As soon as he was at least 100 ft BEHIND me, I fired my missles - to test and see just how the 1.3 affected them. They did a complete 180, went the other way, and killed him. So now I don't even have to see my target and I can kill him. Fair? Now, apparently all I need is the intelligence of a 4 year old to play the game.
I'm going to continute playing BF2, but I'm going to adjust my style once more, and this time I will ONLY target stinger fanboys, and make them cry more. But as soon as a really good mod for BF2 comes out, I'm porting over forever.
Oh, and for those of you who don't think I can fire a gun? Look at my stats - especially Carbine Kills.
I think you sukk. what u will want next, flying rocket packs ??
The main problem with jumping and shooting was the accuracy, you cant have accuracy while jumping like idiot !!!
Blame the bunny noob tubers, they got on the nerves of the majority of people, that will go prone or hiding or taking cover before shooting, and it was pathetic that even that you were spraying the enemy, he jumped all the way and with one nade set feets away from you he got the kill...
You plat antitank and liked to jump and shot rockets behind walls? how stupid does that look ???
playing covert is better, the armor gets desperated trying to find you, and the shotgun, when i spot an enemy i always rush to get near him, i jump (to make him nervous, and i spray after landing, no big deal. you know that.
if you like jumping and shooting then go back to CS:S, there is basic playing style.
so some dont like the patch? so fukk off then, the majority likes it, the majority like to play as life-like possible, and the majority WILL buy any expansion that comes out.
The main problem with jumping and shooting was the accuracy, you cant have accuracy while jumping like idiot !!!
Blame the bunny noob tubers, they got on the nerves of the majority of people, that will go prone or hiding or taking cover before shooting, and it was pathetic that even that you were spraying the enemy, he jumped all the way and with one nade set feets away from you he got the kill...
You plat antitank and liked to jump and shot rockets behind walls? how stupid does that look ???
playing covert is better, the armor gets desperated trying to find you, and the shotgun, when i spot an enemy i always rush to get near him, i jump (to make him nervous, and i spray after landing, no big deal. you know that.
if you like jumping and shooting then go back to CS:S, there is basic playing style.
so some dont like the patch? so fukk off then, the majority likes it, the majority like to play as life-like possible, and the majority WILL buy any expansion that comes out.
nezff wrote:
the patch sucks simply because they changed the jumping while shooting thing for me. i liked to jump and dive to get away from whores in the apcs and tanks. it worked, it wasnt cheating, it was in the game. and whoever wants a realistic game, go join the army or marines. this game is supposed to be fun not so realistic that you cant do certain things like in the real world. i dont care about the helos or plane changes, i dont even care about the uav. my concern is while antitank, and hidden behind a wall or whatever cover and a tank or apc is coming at you, why not be able to jump up and shoot over the wall? and why the hell cant i jump out and suprise a enemy with the shotgun before he even knows what hit him. this patch is terrible for the simple fact the jumping while shooting is gone. take away the dolping diving, fine but please reinstate the jumping and shooting.
"If you don't like the patch go play CS"
Gotta say I'm sick and tired of hearing that thrown around so in retort to this
No, why don't YOU fuck off and play this.
Or this
I can assure you there are no bunny hoppers in these games.
Gotta say I'm sick and tired of hearing that thrown around so in retort to this
No, why don't YOU fuck off and play this.
Or this
I can assure you there are no bunny hoppers in these games.
Majority this, majority that. The majority is allways right, because they give more money to EA than the people who KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. Stfu about the majority, It's about a balanced game that is fun to play. And this game is out of balance. And if you don't see that... I guess you're one of that guys who is spraying with the PKM at this VERY MOMENT.
i like the patch as well. has limited the air game substantially which it needed to be.
I Completely agree with most of you guys in this thread. Although, I was the one complaining about the LAST patch how they are slowly CHANGING the game with flashbangs and what not. When you change the gameplay you piss people off. They obviously do not care and probably know they will lose a lot of players and eventually they will buy the next game.
The prone'ing thing and bunny hopping thing was a way of life. Now in kark, my favorite map, i just get owned. Its not cool that EA pos, DICE pos, thinks they can change the game and everyone be happy with it.
The prone'ing thing and bunny hopping thing was a way of life. Now in kark, my favorite map, i just get owned. Its not cool that EA pos, DICE pos, thinks they can change the game and everyone be happy with it.
i agree. patches are to fix bugs, not reinvent the game. you can bearly move now because a guy with the PKM is sitting on a building half a mile away and kills you with one hit. the only thing the game need adjusting was the AA. and now that is just ridiculous. you can miss with it. they took the AA and added 10 notches to it when they should have just jumped it accuarcy a smigde. the 3rd medic unlock was awesome, now i cant kill a single person with it. im not a bunny hopper. but i dont complain. sometimes i kill them sometimes they kill me, oh well i lived with it. this patch changed the whole game play to an already awsome game. EA shoudl roll it back to v 1.12 and start over with the 1.2 patch. fix the bugs, leave the gameplay and weapons alone. just my thoughts. dont kill me on the post, or in the game, thats bad for my stats.
Word.thudercracker78 wrote:
i agree. patches are to fix bugs, not reinvent the game. you can bearly move now because a guy with the PKM is sitting on a building half a mile away and kills you with one hit. the only thing the game need adjusting was the AA. and now that is just ridiculous. you can miss with it. they took the AA and added 10 notches to it when they should have just jumped it accuarcy a smigde. the 3rd medic unlock was awesome, now i cant kill a single person with it. im not a bunny hopper. but i dont complain. sometimes i kill them sometimes they kill me, oh well i lived with it. this patch changed the whole game play to an already awsome game. EA shoudl roll it back to v 1.12 and start over with the 1.2 patch. fix the bugs, leave the gameplay and weapons alone. just my thoughts. dont kill me on the post, or in the game, thats bad for my stats.
This is all I got to say "Wow". Many good points in both good and bad. Well I would just like to state some things that are again just MY opinion. The patch don't get me wrong is wonderful. And I take back about the weapon balancing b/c for the most part, you guys are right. Now for the people who say that I am just some complainer out of some group majority, and your probably right but I'm complaining and expressing my thoughts to give EA some things to think about when time comes for them to make a new patch. I created this topic b/c I wanted people from both sides to express freely on what they think about not just the new patch but about some of the issues that have been going around. Not being able to throw medic and ammo packs, C4, or grenades while in the air totally took away from the game. Bunny hopping should be taken away from the game, but shouldn't cause bugs that affect coming up from prone, etc.. I think someone said something about agreeing with me about that all these were great ideas but were produced poorly. He to me nailed it right on the money. I would like to continue this thread in hopes that EA will read this and hopefully create a patch that ALL players not just a vast majority can agree on, by using our comments and ideas.
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