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2008-03-01 17:32:32
PureFodder
Member
+225|6713
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/202
The argument is that kids will do dangerous things anyway, you might as well give them some basic safety tuition and let them play with fire, knives and power tools. Will this teach them about safety or just expose them to unnecessary risk?
2008-03-01 18:03:57
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6977|CH/BR - in UK

Ted.com rules! >>
Yes, they should. Kids are sheltered enough as it is!

-konfusion
2008-03-01 18:21:50
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6838|'Murka

I'd have to say I agree...kids need the opportunities to learn through experience. And some of that experience includes things that can hurt them if they aren't careful/don't follow instructions.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
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2008-03-01 18:26:31
geNius
..!.,
+144|6870|SoCal
Yes
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2008-03-01 18:27:34
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7134
There are too many parents where I live that don't let their kids do anything that has the potential to harm them.  I remember my elementary school and some of the rules.... No running on the sidewalk, no running on the asphalt, no running on the sand, no digging in the sand, no swinging "backwards"(not facing the "yard duty"), No dodge ball, no climbing on the bars(I'm not kidding).  I didn't start playing with fire and messing around with electronics until I was 15 years old, and even then I did it in secret.  Parents around here are waaayy to overprotective, including my own.
2008-03-01 18:31:00
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6946|Montucky
Yes, its called natural selection.
2008-03-01 18:31:21
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7199|PNW

If you breathe, you could inhale deadly germs.
2008-03-01 18:32:52
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7082

I'm absolutely for parents letting their kids to dangerous things (so long as it's not too dangerous). I've seen so many examples of kids who are completely sheltered, and then when the world opens up to them, they just go completely nuts and their life is in the shit hole.

Now that doesn't mean that when I become a parent, I'd encourage my kids to do dangerous things. I just won't shelter them as much as the overly political correct society is doing today.

Might as well let kids be kids and get it out of their system. Give them a place to do so, rather than force them to do it on their own where consequences will be much worse.


Also, it seems like parents are so concerned with danger these days, that no kids "go out to play" anymore. When I was a kid, the whole neighborhood would be outside playing around and doing whatever (whether it was launching water balloons, stealing lemons from a neighbor's tree, or just riding our bikes to wherever we wanted). But now, I hardly see any kids out playing with others, there's no socializing going on because parents are scared. When I was a kid, and before the days of wide-spread cell phone use, me and my friends would all go bike-riding at places miles away and just go exploring. Nowadays, a parent wouldn't even dream of letting their child out of their sight, and if they did, they'd have 50 cell phones on them and would call every 10 seconds.

Last edited by mtb0minime (2008-03-01 18:46:04)

2008-03-02 01:23:22
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7142|US
Supervised instruction is the best way to teach safety around potentially dangerous tools/objects.  Ignoring the fact that your kid likes to build stuff and that you have a table saw in the garage could lead to tragic consequences!  The same logic goes for fire, guns, knives, power tools, animals, etc.  Ignorance and carelessness are the greatest causes of accidents.  Removing ignorance and teaching care is a good way to prevent accidents.
2008-03-02 02:37:49
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6533|eXtreme to the maX
It needs to be a graduated process, same for toys, tools sports, driving, drinking.
Learn self-control early and they have a chance. I think its hard to change a character after the age of about 4.
Protect them until they're 18 - then you have a problem.

There is no more danger around than there has ever been, its just more widely reported.
People used to be more stoic and accepting of fate, now they blub to Oprah and look for someone to sue.
Fuck Israel
2008-03-02 03:34:57
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6977|CH/BR - in UK

mtb0minime wrote:

Also, it seems like parents are so concerned with danger these days, that no kids "go out to play" anymore. When I was a kid, the whole neighborhood would be outside playing around and doing whatever (whether it was launching water balloons, stealing lemons from a neighbor's tree, or just riding our bikes to wherever we wanted). But now, I hardly see any kids out playing with others, there's no socializing going on because parents are scared. When I was a kid, and before the days of wide-spread cell phone use, me and my friends would all go bike-riding at places miles away and just go exploring. Nowadays, a parent wouldn't even dream of letting their child out of their sight, and if they did, they'd have 50 cell phones on them and would call every 10 seconds.
I think technology is also at least partially to blame for that. Kids are now stuck to TV/Computer/Game Consoles

-konfusion
2008-03-02 03:46:32
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7185|Argentina
If dangerous things = ride a bike, skate, play sports, climb a tree, etc YES
If dangerous things = learn to shoot at age 10 then NO
2008-03-02 03:46:59
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7079|USA
I rarely say "no" to my sons. They ask me if they can get a "mohawk". I said "sure" and I packed then into the truck for a trip to the barber. They were excited at first, then I explained how they will draw undo attention to themselves and to be prepared to be laughed at. By the time we got to the barber, they had changed their minds.

When they were 5 and 6 they asked if they could ride their bikes down a 14' slide we had in our backyard. Again I said "you bet". They were excited about it until I put their bike at the top of the slide and told them to get on. When the first one got to the top of the slide he had second thoughts the second followed suit.

Kids have a natural survival instinct, and should know their bounderies early on. For me, I like to allow my kids the opportunity to decide for themselves what is a good idea and what is not, this keeps me from saying "no" all the time and gives them the "power" to decide things for themselves and not feel held back or kept down by me.

 

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