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Kmarion wrote:

ATG wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I seriously hope so. The world doesn't need this right now.

Maybe this is exactly what the world needs.

FARC are terrorist. Marxist. Extreme radical leftist with guns.

Chavez is actually backing these guys. This is intolerable.  It doesn't matter who is elected as the next U.S. president. If Hugo backs FARC in this kind of way there will be war. Bad, big bloody war.  China and Russia and Iran have been setting this up as they badly want America to be bled dry somewhere, like the Soviets were in Afghanistan.

I have been following the exploits of FARC for about ten years. The are ultimately anarchists.

We are already bleeding.

Last edited by ATG (2008-03-02 15:24:25)

ATG wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

ATG wrote:

Maybe this is exactly what the world needs.

FARC are terrorist. Marxist. Extreme radical leftist with guns.

Chavez is actually backing these guys. This is intolerable.  It doesn't matter who is elected as the next U.S. president. If Hugo backs FARC in this kind of way there will be war. Bad, big bloody war.  China and Russia and Iran have been setting this up as they badly want America to be bled dry somewhere, like the Soviets were in Afghanistan.

I have been following the exploits of FARC for about ten years. The are ultimately anarchists.

We are already bleeding.

This sort of thing cannot be allowed to happen. You are right, but some fights are worth the risk.

FARC cannot be allowed to become a leader of nations. Cocaine would be their currency and we would be facing coked-out 13 year old soldiers.

Activities; Bombings, murder, mortar attacks, narcotrafficking, kidnapping, extortion, hijacking, as well as guerrilla and conventional military action against Colombian political, military, and economic targets. In March 1999, the FARC executed three US Indian rights activists on Venezuelan territory after it kidnapped them in Colombia. In February 2003, the FARC captured and continues to hold three US contractors and killed one other American and a Colombian when their plane crashed in Florencia. Foreign citizens often are targets of FARC kidnapping for ransom. The FARC has well-documented ties to the full range of narcotics trafficking activities, including taxation, cultivation, and distribution.


The FARC, perhaps the last leftist guerrilla army in a hemisphere where they were once iconic, used to have international legitimacy and sympathy in its fight against Colombia's epic inequality; but that was before it became widely branded as a "narco-guerrilla" group. Perhaps panicked by its dark fortunes of late, the FARC has been trying in recent months to reverse its mafioso image by releasing some of its higher-profile hostages — but not the three U.S. defense contractors it abducted in 2003 after their plane crashed in southern Colombia. Those men — Keith Stansell, Thomas Howes and Marc Gonsalves — completed five years in FARC captivity last month.

Chavez wrote:

“Don’t think about doing that over here, because it would very serious, it would be cause for war,” Chavez said. “How far is President Uribe willing to go in his warlike madness?”

Kmarion wrote:

If someone believes there is a threat to them or their family world opinion takes a backseat (Sorry?). We have allied ourselves with the Colombian government to help eradicate drug traffickers as well as to help them eliminate the threat from FARC. The terrorist group still holds Americans, having kidnapped them years ago after a plane crash in territory under their control.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9903/ … bodies.02/

CameronPoe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

If someone believes there is a threat to them or their family world opinion takes a backseat (Sorry?). We have allied ourselves with the Colombian government to help eradicate drug traffickers as well as to help them eliminate the threat from FARC. The terrorist group still holds Americans, having kidnapped them years ago after a plane crash in territory under their control.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9903/ … bodies.02/

That plane crash incident is a job for Spec Ops. Nothing more.

ATG wrote:

Because we all read that on the internets we leave them there then?

ATG wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

They recently got them by the way.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/ … me=topNews
So we think .

Venezuela President Hugo Chavez, who helped broker the release of two FARC hostages in January, has fueled tensions with Colombia by demanding the guerrillas be recognized as legitimate insurgents and taken off terrorism lists.

Your article states:

" But the FARC is still potent in remote rural areas and is holding scores of hostages, including French-Colombian politician Ingrid Betancourt and the three Americans."

CameronPoe wrote:

He can't seriously be that stupid. This is just posturing.

usmarine wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

He can't seriously be that stupid. This is just posturing.

I guess other countries sending troops to the Colombian border is posturing also?

usmarine wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

usmarine wrote:

I guess other countries sending troops to the Colombian border is posturing also?

You meant sending carriers.

Well I meant Ecuador and such...

No wonder even governments allied with Mr. Chávez, such as those of Argentina and Ecuador, recoiled from his appeal. Latin American leaders who until now have seen in Mr. Chávez a crude populist who buys his friends with petrodollars are faced with something new: a head of state who has openly endorsed an organization of kidnappers and drug traffickers in a neighboring, democratic country. "You can't be legal in your own country and accept illegality in another," said Guatemala's newly elected president, Álvaro Colom. Venezuela's neighbors now must calculate how to respond to a leader who has violated that fundamental rule.

Kmarion wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

I don't really see how an air campaign would bleed the US dry.

Would we really be stupid enough to intervene with anything more than (large quantities of) airstrikes?

It was the combination of minor threats that did the Romans in (Trade deficits are an eerie similarity also). An air campaign involves much more than just flying planes and dropping bombs. It would drain our strategical resources at the Pentagon/Command Centers as well. This is not to say that we couldn't do it. But it lowers our abilty to address a direct attack by spreading us thin. We are pretty much fighting an asymmetrical war with the Chinese. The Chinese know you don't go after the big dog directly, you poison his food.