let them kill each other. I honestly dont care.
No no don't relocate the texans.Dilbert_X wrote:
So we're agreed, relocate the Israelis to Texas, relocate the Texans to Mexico - everybody winsum ok.. so basically its pretty much the same solution i proposed..except i suggested to relocate the israelis in the US of A and leave the land to the Palestinians.
We just have to carve some kind of borders inside Texas, put checkpoints here and there and build a wall around the new state of israel.
Let the new state of Israel grab some land and destroy some texan home if needed.. Let the new state of israel build settlements in the texas "territories" and give uzis to the settlers so they can shoot those damn texans who are running around.
And if the texans dare to resist, then let the new state of israel bomb them and threaten to kill their governor. If one Israeli is killed by an angry texan whos land was stolen , then let israel invade the texan territories and kill at least 100 of them.
After all, the new state of israel have the right to defend itself against those violent texans who do not recognize the existence of israel on their land.
so what you guys are pretty much saying is that the palestinians were retarded for not fighting hard enough to keep the israelis from claiming their land. check.
well, if I remember correctly, the palestinians living there in '48 had very little say in the decision anyway. Palestine had been under british mandate since the 1920's. And even although the islamic palestinians outnumbered the jewish population by about 5:1, the palestinians were still fucked over.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
so what you guys are pretty much saying is that the palestinians were retarded for not fighting hard enough to keep the israelis from claiming their land. check.
That's some kind of lobby work, I gotta say.
This is what you get when people care more about (holy) dirt than human lives.
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This is what you get when people care more about (holy) dirt than human lives.
Strange how in the time Israel has existed it has rose to become a powerful militry nation and an MEDC. Palestine on the other hand has put so much effort into trying to screw Israel that its just ran itself into the ground. Their fault really.Kmarion wrote:
This is what you get when people care more about (holy) dirt than human lives.
Israel had a bit more help than Palestine.M.O.A.B wrote:
Strange how in the time Israel has existed it has rose to become a powerful militry nation and an MEDC. Palestine on the other hand has put so much effort into trying to screw Israel that its just ran itself into the ground. Their fault really.Kmarion wrote:
This is what you get when people care more about (holy) dirt than human lives.
Yeah, it's amazing how they could have afforded to do that all on their own without any help from anyone. Amazing.M.O.A.B wrote:
Strange how in the time Israel has existed it has rose to become a powerful militry nation and an MEDC.
Yeah well consider this, Palestine probably would have received more help form the outside world and even Israel if it wasn't constantly trying to attack it. But instead it chose to fight a battle it can never win and elect a terrorist group for a government.CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah, it's amazing how they could have afforded to do that all on their own without any help from anyone. Amazing.M.O.A.B wrote:
Strange how in the time Israel has existed it has rose to become a powerful militry nation and an MEDC.
Besides, take into consideration all the other Arab countries that attacked Israel in the past, they gave up on that idea, and they've done far better economically than Palestine.
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If I was Palestinian I would fight and fight and fight until I could fight no more. It's kind of what the Irish did for 800 years before getting (most of) its country back eventually...M.O.A.B wrote:
Yeah well consider this, Palestine probably would have received more help form the outside world and even Israel if it wasn't constantly trying to attack it. But instead it chose to fight a battle it can never win and elect a terrorist group for a government.CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah, it's amazing how they could have afforded to do that all on their own without any help from anyone. Amazing.M.O.A.B wrote:
Strange how in the time Israel has existed it has rose to become a powerful militry nation and an MEDC.
Besides, take into consideration all the other Arab countries that attacked Israel in the past, they gave up on that idea, and they've done far better economically than Palestine.
PS I don't quite think the Arabs have completely given up on the whole 'crushing Israel' thing....
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Maybe not, but they're smart enough not to try anything so it appears. Irelands a good example as well, 800 years, and they still don't control all of it.CameronPoe wrote:
If I was Palestinian I would fight and fight and fight until I could fight no more. It's kind of what the Irish did for 800 years before getting (most of) its country back eventually...M.O.A.B wrote:
Yeah well consider this, Palestine probably would have received more help form the outside world and even Israel if it wasn't constantly trying to attack it. But instead it chose to fight a battle it can never win and elect a terrorist group for a government.CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah, it's amazing how they could have afforded to do that all on their own without any help from anyone. Amazing.
Besides, take into consideration all the other Arab countries that attacked Israel in the past, they gave up on that idea, and they've done far better economically than Palestine.
PS I don't quite think the Arabs have completely given up on the whole 'crushing Israel' thing....
But why?M.O.A.B wrote:
They could target areas with high Jewish populations, as Israel is pretty much locked in with the Jewish, they'd likely associate with that.Bertster7 wrote:
Why?M.O.A.B wrote:
I know they have different agendas, but if Israel no longer existed, I have a feeling they'd very quickly get bored, and start lashing out with bombings in other countries.
The way I see it; at first they'd be really happy, then they'd be really busy, then it'd devolve into petty power struggles between different factions with unpredictable consequences.
I don't see any room in that schedule for them to go blowing other stuff up for no reason. You have to remember the Israelis have given them very good "reason" for about a 100 years. The idea that they would suddenly unleash an unprovoked terror campaign against other nations seems somewhat delusional.
What reasoning do you have behind that stance?
Well think about it Israel is primarily Jewish. They would associate Jews with Israel and taking their land etc. If you've ever read Bravo Two Zero (yes it has some flaws of what is real) you will see that the Iraqi soldiers, persistently asked if he was Jewish. I think the Palestinians and Hamas are more likely to hate the Israelis than the Iraqis.Bertster7 wrote:
But why?M.O.A.B wrote:
They could target areas with high Jewish populations, as Israel is pretty much locked in with the Jewish, they'd likely associate with that.Bertster7 wrote:
Why?
The way I see it; at first they'd be really happy, then they'd be really busy, then it'd devolve into petty power struggles between different factions with unpredictable consequences.
I don't see any room in that schedule for them to go blowing other stuff up for no reason. You have to remember the Israelis have given them very good "reason" for about a 100 years. The idea that they would suddenly unleash an unprovoked terror campaign against other nations seems somewhat delusional.
What reasoning do you have behind that stance?
LOL! It is amazing how Israel has all this modern firepower, logistics, and equipment. . . . . I wonder who gave it to their ass??CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah, it's amazing how they could have afforded to do that all on their own without any help from anyone. Amazing.M.O.A.B wrote:
Strange how in the time Israel has existed it has rose to become a powerful militry nation and an MEDC.
When will our politicians realize that Israel is a liability NOT an asset!! What does Israel do for us except give us bad PR and take our tax money?? Honestly what do we get out of blindly supporting them. . . I cant find a fucking thing!! Except MAYBE having essentially a landlocked aircraft carrier doing our bidding for us.
Fuck Palestine and Israel. . . . mindfucked shitheads who cant play nice in the sandbox.
You should demand that Israel be renamed UStaxpayerland.fadedsteve wrote:
LOL! It is amazing how Israel has all this modern firepower, logistics, and equipment. . . . . I wonder who gave it to their ass??
Its fucking rediculous Cam!!CameronPoe wrote:
You should demand that Israel be renamed UStaxpayerland.fadedsteve wrote:
LOL! It is amazing how Israel has all this modern firepower, logistics, and equipment. . . . . I wonder who gave it to their ass??
I am so tired of my money going to illegals and Israel I could spit!
the root of this is the fact that the majority of our politicans are indeed jewish. they have a stake in israel (heritage?) and make sure they get what they need.fadedsteve wrote:
LOL! It is amazing how Israel has all this modern firepower, logistics, and equipment. . . . . I wonder who gave it to their ass??CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah, it's amazing how they could have afforded to do that all on their own without any help from anyone. Amazing.M.O.A.B wrote:
Strange how in the time Israel has existed it has rose to become a powerful militry nation and an MEDC.
When will our politicians realize that Israel is a liability NOT an asset!! What does Israel do for us except give us bad PR and take our tax money?? Honestly what do we get out of blindly supporting them. . . I cant find a fucking thing!! Except MAYBE having essentially a landlocked aircraft carrier doing our bidding for us.
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No they arent. . . .steelie34 wrote:
the root of this is the fact that the majority of our politicans are indeed jewish. they have a stake in israel (heritage?) and make sure they get what they need.fadedsteve wrote:
LOL! It is amazing how Israel has all this modern firepower, logistics, and equipment. . . . . I wonder who gave it to their ass??CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah, it's amazing how they could have afforded to do that all on their own without any help from anyone. Amazing.
When will our politicians realize that Israel is a liability NOT an asset!! What does Israel do for us except give us bad PR and take our tax money?? Honestly what do we get out of blindly supporting them. . . I cant find a fucking thing!! Except MAYBE having essentially a landlocked aircraft carrier doing our bidding for us.
The majority of our politicians are WHITE, PROTESTANT, MALES. . . . Joe Lieberman is a Jew and a few scattered across the country but thats it. The correct answer is that the Jews have TONS OF MONEY and influence our politicians to do their bidding for them!! They have a stake in protecting Israel cause tons of Jews control influential banks and other business ventures across the USA and Europe.
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ah i see... so basically the jews have an unchecked amount of power over the US politcal system... meh thats no good for us.fadedsteve wrote:
No they arent. . . .steelie34 wrote:
the root of this is the fact that the majority of our politicans are indeed jewish. they have a stake in israel (heritage?) and make sure they get what they need.fadedsteve wrote:
LOL! It is amazing how Israel has all this modern firepower, logistics, and equipment. . . . . I wonder who gave it to their ass??
When will our politicians realize that Israel is a liability NOT an asset!! What does Israel do for us except give us bad PR and take our tax money?? Honestly what do we get out of blindly supporting them. . . I cant find a fucking thing!! Except MAYBE having essentially a landlocked aircraft carrier doing our bidding for us.
The majority of our politicians are WHITE, PROTESTANT, MALES. . . . Joe Lieberman is a Jew and a few scattered across the country but thats it. The correct answer is that the Jews have TONS OF MONEY and influence our politicians to do their bidding for them!! They have a stake in protecting Israel cause tons of Jews control influential banks and other business ventures across the USA and Europe.
Pretty much sums it up. . .steelie34 wrote:
ah i see... so basically the jews have an unchecked amount of power over the US politcal system... meh thats no good for us.fadedsteve wrote:
No they arent. . . .steelie34 wrote:
the root of this is the fact that the majority of our politicans are indeed jewish. they have a stake in israel (heritage?) and make sure they get what they need.
The majority of our politicians are WHITE, PROTESTANT, MALES. . . . Joe Lieberman is a Jew and a few scattered across the country but thats it. The correct answer is that the Jews have TONS OF MONEY and influence our politicians to do their bidding for them!! They have a stake in protecting Israel cause tons of Jews control influential banks and other business ventures across the USA and Europe.
STFU, try this....get an education, run for office, and change the laws. Whats stopping you? Your lazy white people deserve everything attitude. You see brown and assume illegal. Wake up man we have been working harder at succeeding than you have so dont blame us for driving better cars and owning property. Same goes for the Palestinians. They could have been living side by side with the Israelis years ago but they refuse to concede anything. Tough shit. And Israel is our allies we give them shit becuase they are our friends. Palestinians could be our friends too but they choose not to. end of story.fadedsteve wrote:
Its fucking rediculous Cam!!CameronPoe wrote:
You should demand that Israel be renamed UStaxpayerland.fadedsteve wrote:
LOL! It is amazing how Israel has all this modern firepower, logistics, and equipment. . . . . I wonder who gave it to their ass??
I am so tired of my money going to illegals and Israel I could spit!
i think its a bit more complicated than that.rawls2 wrote:
And Israel is our allies we give them shit becuase they are our friends. Palestinians could be our friends too but they choose not to.fadedsteve wrote:
Its fucking rediculous Cam!!CameronPoe wrote:
You should demand that Israel be renamed UStaxpayerland.
I am so tired of my money going to illegals and Israel I could spit!
To solve the problem with US Tax $$ going to Israel etc... dismantle the all powerful Lobby groups. AIPAC is the most powerful lobby group, and they lobby for all things benefitting Israel. It seems to be the case that if AIPAC does not approve of a candidate, that candidate does not get onto the ballot, let alone win it.
In other words it does not matter who you vote for in 08, they are going to owe a little some some to AIPAC for backing them or at least not calling them an anti-semite. So more tax $$$ to Israel, get used to it.
In other words it does not matter who you vote for in 08, they are going to owe a little some some to AIPAC for backing them or at least not calling them an anti-semite. So more tax $$$ to Israel, get used to it.