Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

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Al Jazeera had her on knowing damned well what she would deliver, and when she delivered they went ahead and pretended to be shocked anyway. It's worth watching in it's entirety. Click the image.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
13rin
Member
+977|6907
um.. You go girl?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
+117|7138|Sweden
A pity when such a strong tool as media is beeing used this way.
steelie34
pub hero!
+603|6809|the land of bourbon
jeeez.  if they have people this narrow-minded debating all the time, nothing would ever get solved.  they are so intent on attacking each other, they never listen to what the other person is really saying.  but this is how it always is, any talks always regress into a tit-for-tat shouting match where nothing is accomplished.  but i lol'd when that guy started talking after her first speech... "god help me"

Last edited by steelie34 (2008-03-06 09:50:21)

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Kurazoo
Pheasant Plucker
+440|7112|West Yorkshire, U.K

DBBrinson1 wrote:

um.. You go girl man?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

madmurre wrote:

A pity when such a strong tool as media is beeing used this way.
As in sharing ideas and opinions?... yea a real shame .
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7048|London, England
It's usmarine and m3thod all over again

those were the days...
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6427|...

Mek-Izzle wrote:

It's usmarine and m3thod all over again

those were the days...
I would've just hoped someone in there would've NO U'd the other.
inane little opines
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6650|Escea

I'm sure the newscaster was trying to imitate an Italian arguing.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7009|SE London

Wow. What a load of nutters....

Last edited by Bertster7 (2008-03-06 10:21:55)

Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6427|...
"The west is a culture of force and only responds to force"

right in 1 sec to the vid.

https://sioebelgie.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/behead_those_who_insult_islam_web.jpg

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.
inane little opines
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6838|'Murka

She's got balls. I'm betting someone will try to take her out soon.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7059|949

Not a fan of Wafa.

An alternate view of the "Clash of Civilizations" Wafa presents as the case in regards to Islam vs. the Western World.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=94582

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-03-06 12:43:47)

Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6873|The Land of Scott Walker

FEOS wrote:

She's got balls. I'm betting someone will try to take her out soon.
Agreed, she had them on their heels.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

Wafa Sultan: If you want to change the course of events, you must reexamine your terrorist teachings, you must recognize and respect the right of the other to live, you must teach your children love, peace, coexistence, and productive work. When you do that, the world will respect you, will consider you in a better light, and will draw you in a better light."

Moderator: "Can you denounce the Zionist massacres in Gaza? That's a simple question. Do you have the courage to do so?"

Wafa Sultan: "I can denounce the Palestinians and the Israelis alike.

Tal'at Rmeih: "There is a gang that controls [the West], and you are not allowed to criticize Israel or the Holocaust. Anyone who criticized the Holocaust was placed on trial. Noam Chomsky wrote one line about the Holocaust in a book, and the book was recalled from the market. Bernard Lewis – that great philosopher – said something about the Holocaust and was placed on trial. What did the American president say to the U.S. forces sent to the Philippines? He gave them two orders: 'Kill all people above the age of ten, and convert [the rest] to Christianity.'"

Wafa Sultan: "Did you invite me to the show to hear hollow speeches, which have been around for 1,400 years?"

Tal'at Rmeih: "Allah be praised, we have an identity and a culture."

Wafa Sultan: "How can someone who believes in killing people who do not pray possibly criticize liberties in the West? This is a farce. What past is he defending? Is he defending the invasions and lootings?"

Tal'at Rmeih: "I am defending the past of the Islamic nation, which was the beacon of knowledge for the entire world…"

Wafa Sultan: "…polygamy, beheadings, chopping of heads and feet on alternate sides, accusing people of heresy, and drinking camel urine, as a cure for all ailments – is this the past he is defending?"

Moderator: "Do you dare to say that the number of people who died in the Jewish Holocaust is even one less [than what they claim]? Do you dare to say that? Why don't you dare to even touch on Jewish history – let alone on Jewish religion and sanctities? Why do you flex your muscles only against the oppressed Muslims?"

Wafa Sultan: "Why do you want me to deny historical documents that confirm that the Holocaust took place? If there was no proof, I would deny it. But I cannot deny history, knowledge, and documents confirming that the Holocaust indeed took place. Why do you want me to deny the facts?"

Moderator: "From what she says, it is clear that she has no problem denying the holy books, but she is adamant about not denying historical documents."

Wafa Sultan: "Can you as a Muslim deny the massacre of the Jews of the Bani Qureyza tribe, by Muhammad and his followers?"
Seemed like she made sense to me.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
pers0nah
Waste Kid
+271|7010|MANCHESTERRR
she destroyed them imho
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6650|Escea

Kmarion wrote:

Wafa Sultan: If you want to change the course of events, you must reexamine your terrorist teachings, you must recognize and respect the right of the other to live, you must teach your children love, peace, coexistence, and productive work. When you do that, the world will respect you, will consider you in a better light, and will draw you in a better light."

Moderator: "Can you denounce the Zionist massacres in Gaza? That's a simple question. Do you have the courage to do so?"

Wafa Sultan: "I can denounce the Palestinians and the Israelis alike.

Tal'at Rmeih: "There is a gang that controls [the West], and you are not allowed to criticize Israel or the Holocaust. Anyone who criticized the Holocaust was placed on trial. Noam Chomsky wrote one line about the Holocaust in a book, and the book was recalled from the market. Bernard Lewis – that great philosopher – said something about the Holocaust and was placed on trial. What did the American president say to the U.S. forces sent to the Philippines? He gave them two orders: 'Kill all people above the age of ten, and convert [the rest] to Christianity.'"

Wafa Sultan: "Did you invite me to the show to hear hollow speeches, which have been around for 1,400 years?"

Tal'at Rmeih: "Allah be praised, we have an identity and a culture."

Wafa Sultan: "How can someone who believes in killing people who do not pray possibly criticize liberties in the West? This is a farce. What past is he defending? Is he defending the invasions and lootings?"

Tal'at Rmeih: "I am defending the past of the Islamic nation, which was the beacon of knowledge for the entire world…"

Wafa Sultan: "…polygamy, beheadings, chopping of heads and feet on alternate sides, accusing people of heresy, and drinking camel urine, as a cure for all ailments – is this the past he is defending?"

Moderator: "Do you dare to say that the number of people who died in the Jewish Holocaust is even one less [than what they claim]? Do you dare to say that? Why don't you dare to even touch on Jewish history – let alone on Jewish religion and sanctities? Why do you flex your muscles only against the oppressed Muslims?"

Wafa Sultan: "Why do you want me to deny historical documents that confirm that the Holocaust took place? If there was no proof, I would deny it. But I cannot deny history, knowledge, and documents confirming that the Holocaust indeed took place. Why do you want me to deny the facts?"

Moderator: "From what she says, it is clear that she has no problem denying the holy books, but she is adamant about not denying historical documents."

Wafa Sultan: "Can you as a Muslim deny the massacre of the Jews of the Bani Qureyza tribe, by Muhammad and his followers?"
Seemed like she made sense to me.
I was thinking that, they were just blabbing that shes wrong in every sense of the word and not accepting anything, kudos to her.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6918|Menlo Park, CA
The men here obviously view her as some dumb bitch living in the west being brainwashed into bashing her roots. . . .

When they are OBVIOUSLY blinded by their hatred and conspiracy theories, and utter disdain at the fact that the "Islam Nation" (aka The Caliphate) has been dead since 1924 (When Turkey formed their parliament).  They dont want to except that the way they live/conduct their lives/culture is in anyway wrong, or merits quesition etc.

They are sick pure and simple!! One who doesnt look at ones self with criticisms is bound to never think they are at fault for anything!! This is the problem with Muslim countries, and Islam as a religion, it simply cannot imagine that what they do is EVER wrong.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6832|North Carolina
Any culture hellbent on punishing people for offending a religion is going to be rather crazy.  Muslims need to lighten up some.
madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
+117|7138|Sweden

Kmarion wrote:

madmurre wrote:

A pity when such a strong tool as media is beeing used this way.
As in sharing ideas and opinions?... yea a real shame .
My apologies i managed to misread that article "slightly" i read what i want i guess ehh. I don´t really see why Jaazera should apology on the other hand that´s abit silly, muslims seems so sensitvie in these matters though i assume that´s cause they lack any real freedom when it comes to information they just get feeded what the wolfs ( gov ) want/allow them to know.
jamiecracker
Member
+17|7175|Wollongong,Australia

Turquoise wrote:

Any culture hellbent on punishing people for offending a religion is going to be rather crazy.  Muslims need to lighten up some.
probably need a blow job
liquix
Member
+51|6881|Peoples Republic of Portland
that's one hell of a person

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