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He voted to go after Osama, not for nation building.

I find it extremely odd how you are aware about our enormous debt and entitlements yet you think very little of the candidate who wants to address it.

Anyways, I wouldn't want to be the next president. Oh you just wait.

Last edited by Phrozenbot (2008-03-06 21:48:15)

Kmarion wrote:

Maybe someday he’ll get around to explaining why someone who voted to invade Afghanistan thinks he’s qualified to lecture others on non interventionism.

The invasion of Afganistan was not just some political interventionalist ploy; Afganistan was a corrupt nation seething with terrorist training camps, and it was a major threat to the US.

oChaos.Haze wrote:

He had it all going for him until those racist remarks came to light.  True or not, the media has the power.  He had his hard core righties, the ones who wanted as small of government as possible.  But he needed the lefties, who saw that he was strictly against Iraq and hated corruption in politics.  I personally know of dozens of ppl who were on the Paul train until his racist remarks came out. 

On topic, voting to go to afghanistan is not the "interventionism" that he is against.  That argument holds water like a fork.

What kind of racist comments did he make?

Anything messing with foreign affairs is considered intervention. Trying to become isolationist in today's world is futile, though, with a nation as large as the US.

So, you define the policy of non-interventionism as never going to war?  The Afghan government praised the terrorists that destroyed the world trade center; you don't think that is an act of war?  To me, it shows that what Ron Paul meant by a non-interventionist policy was that he planned to avoid entangling situations such as Iraq and Somalia; it showed his pragmatic mindset.  What kind of idealistic fool wouldn't have supported the invasion of Afghanistan?

And I ask you yet again, what kind of racist comments he made.

Last edited by Deadmonkiefart (2008-03-06 22:13:05)

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

So, you define the policy of non-interventionism as never going to war?  The Afghan government praised the terrorists that destroyed the world trade center; you don't think that is an act of war?  To me, it shows that what Ron Paul meant by a non-interventionist policy was that he planned to avoid entangling situations such as Iraq and Somalia; it showed his pragmatic mindset.  What kind of idealistic fool wouldn't have supported the invasion of Afghanistan?

I don't re-define words to fit my candidate. It was intervention, whether it was justified or not. Capiche?

Kmarion wrote:

I don't re-define words to fit my candidate. It was intervention, whether it was justified or not. Capiche?

capish

Kmarion wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

So, you define the policy of non-interventionism as never going to war?  The Afghan government praised the terrorists that destroyed the world trade center; you don't think that is an act of war?  To me, it shows that what Ron Paul meant by a non-interventionist policy was that he planned to avoid entangling situations such as Iraq and Somalia; it showed his pragmatic mindset.  What kind of idealistic fool wouldn't have supported the invasion of Afghanistan?

I don't re-define words to fit my candidate. It was intervention, whether it was justified or not. Capiche?

First of all, I would like to see where he said that he believes in a strict non-interventionist policy.  Second, just because someone agrees with an ideology doesn't mean that they apply it to every situation, in the strictest possible manner(I think you can come up with plenty of examples of this).  The greatest leaders in history are not the ideological, inflexible nutcases, but the pragmatic, reasonable people who used their good sense.  Would you really have respected him more if he had voted against the invasion of Afghanistan?

Kmarion wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I don't re-define words to fit my candidate. It was intervention, whether it was justified or not. Capiche?

First of all, I would like to see where he said that he believes in a strict non-interventionist policy.  Second, just because someone agrees with an ideology doesn't mean that they apply it to every situation, in the strictest possible manner(I think you can come up with plenty of examples of this).  The greatest leaders in history are not the ideological, inflexible nutcases, but the pragmatic, reasonable people who used their good sense.  Would you really have respected him more if he had voted against the invasion of Afghanistan?

Maybe you should visit your candidates website?

Did we declare war on Afghanistan?

Ron Paul wrote:

“  The only proper way to go to war, the only legal way to go to war, the only constitutional way to go to war is to declare the war, by the congress, not by the president. The people should be behind it. ”

oooops. By declaring war I'm sure he meant something else.. . He sure as hell voted to invade it.

Wow... Way to go around the question and make as little sense possible without sounding like a comlete idiot...  Really, would you care to adress my questions and arguements? 

Wikipedia definition of "Nonintervention or Non-interventionism is a foreign policy which holds that political rulers should avoid alliances with other nations and avoid all wars not related to direct territorial self-defense. A similar phrase is 'strategic independence'"

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Wow... Way to go around the question and make as little sense possible without sounding like a comlete idiot

Actually you sound like a complete idiot.

Last edited by usmarine (2008-03-06 22:36:11)

Oh well.


Let's just keep on marching towards socialism.

usmarine wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Wow... Way to go around the question and make as little sense possible without sounding like a comlete idiot

Actually you sound like a complete idiot.

Oh noes!  I misstyped and spelled 'complete' wrong!  IamsoembarrasedIgiveupndyou win!
Surely you could have found something better than that to discredit my opinions.  I would appreciate it if you not add anything if there is nothing useful to add.