Don't MAKE me call the principal.HurricaИe wrote:
i should take a photo of myself wearing my cap just to annoy you.CloakedStarship wrote:
Because.
Now take it off you fucking delinquent.
cOLD photo is cOLD:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb28 … G_0714.jpg
It doesn't matter, there are different levels...How bad does it have to be before its offensive, and who's judgment is that based on?HurricaИe wrote:
Yes. But do you honestly, HONESTLY think that wearing a hat is as bad as flipping someone off? Do ya?VicktorVauhn wrote:
So the fact that society regards something as disrespectful makes it disrespectful?HurricaИe wrote:
Flipping off is widely regarded in the US as "Fuck you." I personally do it to my friends all the time, but I certainly wouldn't flip off my teacher in class for instance.
Wearing a hat inside, however, is generally regarded as disrespectful by people who were born at least 100 years ago and whining crybabies. Everyone else who lives in the now doesn't give two shits.
Nothing in the physical act of flipping some one off is disrespectful. If you had never been told that that gesture means "fuck you" and you saw it you would not feel disrespected at all, you wouldn't know to.
The reason you feel disrespected is not because you saw some ones finger. The person knows that showing you a certain part of their hand is a sign of disrespect, and does it with that intent. This is what bothers you.
In the same light you know that wearing a hat inside is considered in this society to be a sign of disrespect, and you still do it.
It doesn't matter that you don't view it as disrespectful, your views alone don't define society. Its basicly the same as the "I don't see whats wrong with fuck, its just a word" argument. Its fine if you do not find it offensive, wear it in your room all you want...But if the person who's building it is sees it as offensive your SOL.
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bc people like to make u follow a bunch of superficial little rules
i say fuck it, ill wear my hat when i want to, where i want to.
i got iss for that 2 years ago for saying that to a teacher.
lame
i got iss for that 2 years ago for saying that to a teacher.
lame
I don't even wear hats.Marinejuana wrote:
bc people like to make u follow a bunch of superficial little rules
I'm not talking about whether he should or not, he asked why it is disrespectful.
Gangster.Tdog2007 wrote:
i say fuck it, ill wear my hat when i want to, where i want to.
i got iss for that 2 years ago for saying that to a teacher.
lame
+internet rep.
OK google had this to say
Some of the other pages I flipped through show it used to be a VERY big deal, as most people wore hats. Most of the little stipulations and things like tipping you hat have dissapeared over the years...it takes a while.It's a matter of history..
The "tipping" or removal of a hat is said to have originated from the same place as the military salute. Knights would lift the visor (face guard) on their helm, showing their face as a sign of respect and their empty hand as an indication they meant no harm. This tradition evolved into the modern military salute. Similarly, the removal of a helm (helmet) or other headgear indoors and as a sign of respect or reverence is said to have originated before the Dark Ages. This tradition was carried on throughout the centuries by men of arms (soldiers) and nobility, as well as their staff, servants and slaves. After the Dark Ages, manners and etiquette grew to become an essential part of everyday life and the conventions of hat etiquette became ingrained in civilized culture.
It's a matter of culture..
Up until the late 1940's and early 1950's, hats were worn by gentlemen, particularly outdoors. It was considered "bad manners" for a gentleman or a lady to be seen outdoors without proper headgear. Pompador hair styles and popular icon of the time, such as Tony Curtis and Elvis Presley had a significant impact on the decline of hat wearing in the US. President Kennedy was the first U.S. President to be seen outdoors without a hat and from the 1960's on, the use of hats declined considerably. According to the Essential Handbook of Victorian Etiquette there are many accepted traditions concerning proper rituals that should be adhered to by gentlemen while wearing a hat. In the 1800's, hat etiquette was strictly followed and thus became second nature to gentlemen in Victorian times. Being that the frequent (or nearly constant) wearing of hats is a tradition of a by-gone era, it is important that those choosing to reenact that era be particularly aware of the proper rules of conduct that should be demonstrated by the wearer.
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ahhh the good old days...HurricaИe wrote:
Why don't people get with the damned times then? "Back then" women couldn't vote,
u confused?VicktorVauhn wrote:
I don't even wear hats.Marinejuana wrote:
bc people like to make u follow a bunch of superficial little rules
I'm not talking about whether he should or not, he asked why it is disrespectful.
Traditional manners don't always make sense, but it doesn't hurt.
Traditions never make sense, but don't be such a non-conformist twit on shit that doesn't matter. Pick your battles, or you'll lose all credibility.
/me should take his own advice
/me should take his own advice
I know why hats aren't allowed in court rooms at least. This man was on trial and had some kind of hat on, the man somehow snuck a handgun under his hat and then shot people. I think they beefed up security later (metal detectors ect). Anyways, I dont really believe hats should be considered disrespectful, I mean its just something that you are wearing. How can that possibly be disrespectful.
Thats why I dont follow that "rule" lol.cablecopulate wrote:
An even stupider "rule" is not putting your elbows on the table.
Fuck the stupid etiquette crap, I'm eating my fucking dinner not displaying how good my manners are.
And while we are on it, to me the more "polite" a person is, the more bullshit they spout - they can never tell the truth to people cause it is "rude".