roflmao wowKEN-JENNINGS wrote:
No I don't believe in it. It is a crutch for the emotionally weak; an opiate of the masses.
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Poll
Do you believe in Cloning?
| Yes, clone anything | 66% | 66% - 58 | ||||
| No, clone nothing | 5% | 5% - 5 | ||||
| Yes, only simple life forms | 17% | 17% - 15 | ||||
| Only plants | 10% | 10% - 9 | ||||
| Total: 87 | ||||||
Well I believe we've gone off tracks here concidering cloning is the same as duplication, and gene modification is what you're talking about.Des.Kmal wrote:
lol. never say 'never'.CruZ4dR wrote:
Wouldn't happen, even though I don't see the problem in "perfectiong" ourselvesdayarath wrote:
You clone the perfect humans about a few billion times, the original human population becomes useless, since the other clone is 'perfect'. Why have normal humans do the job if you can get something far superior to any other human.
We'd be extinguishing ourselves.
and u dont? what'd be the of a human race if we just made them ourselves?
But to answer your question: Why would we make a whole new race? What defines a new human race? There are things like test phases etc which I have confidence in. I believe in gene modification for medical puropses, as in finding cures for new and old diseases (and no, not making new ones).
Only for sexy girls
What would be the purpose? Harvesting organs? What right would the clones have? Would they be property or treated as individuals like everyone else? Too many questions to say yes at this point.
Indeed. It's just false hope about a world full of hot women and clones that do the work for you.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
No I don't believe in it. It is a crutch for the emotionally weak; an opiate of the masses.
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Idiots, they're cloning his body, not his mind/soul so they are not scientists tbh.CruZ4dR wrote:
Heard of the scientists that wanted to clone Hitler so they could torture him to death? I'm not kidding.
id only think clone someone every 5 or 10 years incase of death to bring them back but i didnt think it through very much so i dont think cloning is very good
only for like elements (if u can clone those) so we can get water and crap
plants would be good if it was like Aloe
animals would be good to get them out of endangerment
only for like elements (if u can clone those) so we can get water and crap
plants would be good if it was like Aloe
animals would be good to get them out of endangerment
Cloning is bad in terms of human evolution, we need to evolve to survive.
you'd be cloning the body, not the soul of the person. The clone will probably have a totally different personality.elite3444 wrote:
id only think clone someone every 5 or 10 years incase of death to bring them back but i didnt think it through very much so i dont think cloning is very good
only for like elements (if u can clone those) so we can get water and crap
plants would be good if it was like Aloe
animals would be good to get them out of endangerment
Exactly, if we stay in this state, as the planet moves forth, we won't, other animals will continue to evolve, but we will stay with the same intelligence level.Vilham wrote:
Cloning is bad in terms of human evolution, we need to evolve to survive.
Let's slay the idiots.
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We have penis's and vagina's for a reason.
You don't need test tubes to make more people.
And if you mean cloning for organs, well we're honestly over-populated as it is. We've gone from 1.5 billion to ~7 billion people in 100 years. It's terrible to say, but we can't keep everyone alive and stay alive as a species ourself..
You don't need test tubes to make more people.
And if you mean cloning for organs, well we're honestly over-populated as it is. We've gone from 1.5 billion to ~7 billion people in 100 years. It's terrible to say, but we can't keep everyone alive and stay alive as a species ourself..
Simple lifeforms.
And by than I mean non-humans.
And by than I mean non-humans.
No, clone nothing
Not actual humans, but body parts. Much like in The Island. Be able to grow our own living, working hearts, livers, brains, etc. That way, essentially, unless we were stricken with a deadly disease that spread throughout all of our body, we could add on 50-200 years to our life.
Just imagine it. You're diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. They catch it soon enough. You go to the organ clinic, they have your pancreas cloned and in their stock. They put you under the knife and perform a transplant.
I sometimes wish we could perform science without worry of morals, much like they did in Rapture in Bioshock. Not with killing people obviously as that obviously should never happen in science purposely, but with cloning, stem cell research..etc.
Just imagine it. You're diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. They catch it soon enough. You go to the organ clinic, they have your pancreas cloned and in their stock. They put you under the knife and perform a transplant.
I sometimes wish we could perform science without worry of morals, much like they did in Rapture in Bioshock. Not with killing people obviously as that obviously should never happen in science purposely, but with cloning, stem cell research..etc.
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Id say not cloning humans etc... shit could get too fucked up.
Plants, yes... If we run out/ need moar we could just mass-clone them.
Animals.... maybe... unsure.
But Id look into the fixing of body parts. E.g. Find cures to shitty diseases (but like Chipmunk said, we cant continue to be growing at this rate... we wont be able to hold enough people on earth.)
Or put it like how Dwight says it: "We need another disease, a black death again".
Im mixed for this.
Plants, yes... If we run out/ need moar we could just mass-clone them.
Animals.... maybe... unsure.
But Id look into the fixing of body parts. E.g. Find cures to shitty diseases (but like Chipmunk said, we cant continue to be growing at this rate... we wont be able to hold enough people on earth.)
Or put it like how Dwight says it: "We need another disease, a black death again".
Im mixed for this.
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Nerd trivia: Star Trek addresses the dangers of identical organisms with the Symmetrist terrorist organization, whose members (mostly Vulcan) oppose the duplication of ecologies from planet to planet by demonstrating how easy it is to spread disease and pestilence to and from these cookie-cutter environments.
As goofy as Star Trek is, it occasionally makes good points. Applied to our time, the introduction of cloning into consumables could increase the risk of industry-flattening pandemics, to say nothing of such risks if it became standard practice. Another argument against cloning whole specimens is that it is not an exact science and may introduce undetectable abnormalities into the environment.
But I am all for cloning when it comes to parts regeneration, so long as we don't get into the whole backup-baby ethics pretzel.
As goofy as Star Trek is, it occasionally makes good points. Applied to our time, the introduction of cloning into consumables could increase the risk of industry-flattening pandemics, to say nothing of such risks if it became standard practice. Another argument against cloning whole specimens is that it is not an exact science and may introduce undetectable abnormalities into the environment.
But I am all for cloning when it comes to parts regeneration, so long as we don't get into the whole backup-baby ethics pretzel.
Cloned lifeforms aren't invincible they still need food/water/nutrients etc. to grow.KuSTaV wrote:
Id say not cloning humans etc... shit could get too fucked up.
Plants, yes... If we run out/ need moar we could just mass-clone them.
I can has Surgeons clone?The Sheriff wrote:
Cloned lifeforms aren't invincible they still need food/water/nutrients etc. to grow.KuSTaV wrote:
Id say not cloning humans etc... shit could get too fucked up.
Plants, yes... If we run out/ need moar we could just mass-clone them.
u can has not.SgtSlutter wrote:
I can has Surgeons clone?The Sheriff wrote:
Cloned lifeforms aren't invincible they still need food/water/nutrients etc. to grow.KuSTaV wrote:
Id say not cloning humans etc... shit could get too fucked up.
Plants, yes... If we run out/ need moar we could just mass-clone them.
.Sup wrote:
u can has not.SgtSlutter wrote:
I can has Surgeons clone?The Sheriff wrote:
Cloned lifeforms aren't invincible they still need food/water/nutrients etc. to grow.
I support the cloning of all non human things and "Spare parts" as it were for humans.
If we clone humans wars will last twice as long or be twice as short?
Again, that doesn't work in our society. We cannot have life spans of 200 years, the earth can not and will not support it. We're already crunched as it is. Don't believe me? In the next century, after oil is gone, if we have no alternative fuel billions will die. Even if we find an alternative fuel, the quality of farm land is decreasing, we're loosing vital nutrient rich topsoil to erosion because we are raping natural cycles. We can cut down more forests for farm land, but that will screw with our atmosphere in a terrifying way. We need to wake up and realize what the potential consequences for our actions now and in the decades previously really are.Poseidon wrote:
Not actual humans, but body parts. Much like in The Island. Be able to grow our own living, working hearts, livers, brains, etc. That way, essentially, unless we were stricken with a deadly disease that spread throughout all of our body, we could add on 50-200 years to our life.
Just imagine it. You're diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. They catch it soon enough. You go to the organ clinic, they have your pancreas cloned and in their stock. They put you under the knife and perform a transplant.
I sometimes wish we could perform science without worry of morals, much like they did in Rapture in Bioshock. Not with killing people obviously as that obviously should never happen in science purposely, but with cloning, stem cell research..etc.
You could come back with this argument:
But that doesn't work. Even if you "clone" plants (which I'm pretty sure we already do to some extent), you still need a place to grow them. You don't just stick a plant into a "cloning machine" and out pops another fully grown plant...KuSTaV wrote:
Id say not cloning humans. Plants, yes... If we run out/ need moar we could just mass-clone them.
Animals.... maybe... unsure.
I wish you could clone Pizza because sometimes you get a pizza that is just perfect and the next time it is not as good. If you could clone Pizza than you could alway have the real real good tasting one every time. So I voted yes just like I plan to in the Presidential election.