BF2S Forums Girl Beaten To Death For Dressing Like A Goth

Snake wrote:

jord wrote:

You're glamorising Chavs. They aren't part of one gang like the Crips or whatever, they may not be part of any gang. It's just under 18's that have nowhere to go and noting to do so they do this sorta stuff. Usually drink influenced, probably Cider.

In all honesty, whenever I hear that, I think thats a load of shit. They are bored? Its down to the fact that they cant/dont want to work for a living so they cant afford to go to the cinema, swimming pool, bowling or whatever. They'd rather get smashed and high: and thats the problem. But, because those "industries" make too much money for the government, its never going to decrease in size or popularity.

When I grew up, everyone rode around on bikes, played footie on the wreck, kirby, tag, and everything else. Nothings changed except a culture that has been kicked in from somewhere, and its these twats that show up this country. When I finished school, it was all "normal people" and a dozen goths in the corner (and, we all got along). Now its chavs, goths, and normal people - who ironically enough, are the minority.
Everyone complains of immigrants...im sorry, but the youth in this country is worse than any fucking immigrant. Im glad I live in and around country towns so this shit is hardly a problem down here.

Last edited by jord (2008-03-15 06:59:28)

Snake wrote:

Suppose it depends where you live, down in Gloucestershire you cant go anywhere without seeing grass We had a patch of grass, no bigger than 15m x 3m (metric ftw) that 10 of us used to play on. And its on an incline. And the ball used to end up in backgardens, front lawns and under cars

I agree, it was pretty fair. I didnt mean working for a living, I meant part-time. Paper-rounds, local supermarkets, service stations, etc. I used to do a paper-round that paid out a whooping £13 a week (!). Up at 6 everyday, even weekends. Now, we're lucky to see a paperboy/girl before 12pm. But that used to get saved to go towards catching the bus into town with a few friends and go shopping, maybe a cinema and a pizza, etc. I guess we werent just pissheads
Depends on where you live really, and stereotypical or not, up north is a lot worse than down here in the south. Or maybe thats just the media.

(do I sound old in these posts? )

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

And anyway, even if the victims were making fun of the accused, does that give them the right to beat her to death?

If you think it does then you need locking up as well my friend.

wikipedia wrote:

While returning home, Lancaster and Maltby were subjected to a "vicious mob attack" from "a large group of people" between 01:10 hours and 01:20 hours on Saturday, 11 August 2007, at the skate park area of Stubby Lee Park, Bacup.[2] The couple were walking home and came across a group of teenagers at the entrance to the park. The group followed them but there was no trouble till some of them suddenly assaulted Robert Maltby without provocation. When he was knocked unconscious the gang attacked Sophie Lancaster, who was trying to protect him by cradling him in her arms. One witness a 15-year-old boy, told police: "They were running over and just kicking her in the head and jumping up and down on her head." One distraught witness used a mobile to call for emergency services saying: "We need, we need an ambulance at Bacup Park, this mosher’s just been banged because he’s a mosher." [5] Witnesses revealed that afterwards: "The killers celebrated their attack on the goths - or "moshers" - by telling friends afterwards that they had "done summat good", and claiming: "There's two moshers nearly dead up Bacup park - you wanna see them -they're a right mess." "

^source

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-03-15 09:21:31)

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HurricaИe wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4530930.stm

Oh, no, the BBC, they're biased and part the new world order too, aren't they?

FTA: "Nature said its reviewers found that Wikipedia entries were often poorly structured and confused. "

lulz? Wikipedia, when pages are well-cited, is an excellent bank of info. It's usually written well enough for people to understand.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4530930.stm

Prosecution lawyers don't just make this shit up either.

The lawyer never said that the attack was only because the girl was Goth, you just don't understand English.

He said it APPEARED that that is what happened.  He doesn't know, it is an idea he is floating so the jury will sympathize with the victim so he can PROSECUTE the murderer.

Just say "doh" and quit posting.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

yeah, I read it all and you're still not the sharpest knife in the drawer but still like to talk a lot.

Braddock wrote:

Goth clothes 'prompted killing'

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4 … ophieb.jpg

"Sophie Lancaster died in hospital two weeks after the attack. A 15-year-old boy kicked and stamped to death a woman because she was dressed as a Goth, a court heard. The drunk teenager was among a gang of five who "savagely and mercilessly" attacked Sophie Lancaster, 20, and her boyfriend, Preston Crown Court heard. The court heard Miss Lancaster's facial injuries were so severe, paramedics did not know what sex she was. Tests indicated she had been kicked and stamped to death, with the pattern of some footwear still on her head."

This is the kind of story that makes me want to beat the living shit out of chavs purely on general principle ...but I guess that would make me as bad as them wouldn't it? I used to be quite fond of black t-shirts and loud angry music when I was younger and I used to get violent abuse for it too, but not on this scale. This is sickening, these little shits should be burned at the stake.

Turquoise wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Goth clothes 'prompted killing'

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4 … ophieb.jpg

"Sophie Lancaster died in hospital two weeks after the attack. A 15-year-old boy kicked and stamped to death a woman because she was dressed as a Goth, a court heard. The drunk teenager was among a gang of five who "savagely and mercilessly" attacked Sophie Lancaster, 20, and her boyfriend, Preston Crown Court heard. The court heard Miss Lancaster's facial injuries were so severe, paramedics did not know what sex she was. Tests indicated she had been kicked and stamped to death, with the pattern of some footwear still on her head."

This is the kind of story that makes me want to beat the living shit out of chavs purely on general principle ...but I guess that would make me as bad as them wouldn't it? I used to be quite fond of black t-shirts and loud angry music when I was younger and I used to get violent abuse for it too, but not on this scale. This is sickening, these little shits should be burned at the stake.

2 things...

Death penalty and the right to bear arms....    If the U.K. had those 2 things, this would probably happen less.

Snake wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Goth clothes 'prompted killing'

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4 … ophieb.jpg

"Sophie Lancaster died in hospital two weeks after the attack. A 15-year-old boy kicked and stamped to death a woman because she was dressed as a Goth, a court heard. The drunk teenager was among a gang of five who "savagely and mercilessly" attacked Sophie Lancaster, 20, and her boyfriend, Preston Crown Court heard. The court heard Miss Lancaster's facial injuries were so severe, paramedics did not know what sex she was. Tests indicated she had been kicked and stamped to death, with the pattern of some footwear still on her head."

This is the kind of story that makes me want to beat the living shit out of chavs purely on general principle ...but I guess that would make me as bad as them wouldn't it? I used to be quite fond of black t-shirts and loud angry music when I was younger and I used to get violent abuse for it too, but not on this scale. This is sickening, these little shits should be burned at the stake.

2 things...

Death penalty and the right to bear arms....    If the U.K. had those 2 things, this would probably happen less.

Yes, because we really want school playground, university and shopping mall massacres all over the UK.
The last one we had was Dunblane in, I believe, 1996 (shortly after, guns became illegal). Tell me, when was your last massacre?

Exactly.

Snake wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Goth clothes 'prompted killing'

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4 … ophieb.jpg

"Sophie Lancaster died in hospital two weeks after the attack. A 15-year-old boy kicked and stamped to death a woman because she was dressed as a Goth, a court heard. The drunk teenager was among a gang of five who "savagely and mercilessly" attacked Sophie Lancaster, 20, and her boyfriend, Preston Crown Court heard. The court heard Miss Lancaster's facial injuries were so severe, paramedics did not know what sex she was. Tests indicated she had been kicked and stamped to death, with the pattern of some footwear still on her head."

This is the kind of story that makes me want to beat the living shit out of chavs purely on general principle ...but I guess that would make me as bad as them wouldn't it? I used to be quite fond of black t-shirts and loud angry music when I was younger and I used to get violent abuse for it too, but not on this scale. This is sickening, these little shits should be burned at the stake.

2 things...

Death penalty and the right to bear arms....    If the U.K. had those 2 things, this would probably happen less.

Yes, because we really want school playground, university and shopping mall massacres all over the UK.
The last one we had was Dunblane in, I believe, 1996 (shortly after, guns became illegal). Tell me, when was your last massacre?

Exactly.