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2008-03-17 07:04:30
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6956|Global Command
Donor: And we don't, you know, we just think, you know, the less black kids out there the better.

Kersey: (Laughs) Understandable, understandable. ... Um David, let me, if I may, just get some sort of specific general information so we can set this up the right way. You said you wanted to put it in your son's name, and you would like this designated specifically to assist (an) African-American woman who's looking to terminate a pregnancy.

Donor: Exactly, and yeah, I wanna protect my son, so he can get into college.

Kersey: All right. Excuse my hesitation, um, um, this is the first time I've had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I'm excited, and I wanna make sure I don't leave anything out.
I think heads are rolling right now. " Understandable. "  Unreal.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdat … 08723.html
2008-03-17 07:07:42
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6557|North Tonawanda, NY
Good lord!  What would possess them to say that, especially in any sort of public representative capacity?
2008-03-17 07:13:06
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7080
Why is the transcript cut off?
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
2008-03-17 07:35:10
GorillaTicTacs
Member
+231|6800|Kyiv, Ukraine
Excuse my hesitation, um, um, this is the first time I've had a donor call and make this kind of request...
So if they're "blowing the whistle" on this pattern of behavior, how is it a pattern if their own "sting" operation reveals that its the first time?

Yes, sometimes customer service and phone manners can go a bit far, but most call centers have a policy of never allowing an operator to argue with a caller no matter how stupid or abusive.  Imagine if the person taking the call had said "Fuck you, racist bitch.", they'd no longer have a job that way either.  By the rules though, the caller specified they would like to make a donation, and to help a minority in need, everything else is fluff.   If you've ever had to work in a calling center, you would know exactly what kind of rules you need to deal with every day.  Personally, I couldn't put up with it, I can't be nice to idiots...just not in my personality profile or something.

In a charitable organization though, there is no greater bliss than to take money from a complete asshole (real or acting) and use it for the good of humanity.  Did any of these calls culminate in an actual donation?  Why are anti-abortion groups contributing to Planned Parenthood if so?  Do the donors to the anti-abortion groups know that some of their money made it to Planned Parenthood?

This raises a lot of interesting legal and ethical questions unrelated to abortion.
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I'm pretty curious about the cut-off portion of the transcript also.  Perhaps the donation did go through, leading to the interesting paradox above.

Last edited by GorillaTicTacs (2008-03-17 07:42:16)

2008-03-17 07:49:14
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6956|Global Command

Lucien wrote:

Why is the transcript cut off?
Because I saw no need to post the whole thing. It would result in a wall of text nobody would read. There is a link  to the original story if you want the uncut transcript.

Planned Parenthood may offer other services but what they are is a string of abortion clinics Are anti-abortion groups contributing to PP?

If they were I would have to question their reasoning skills.
2008-03-17 08:04:50
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6610|Ireland
So it is offensive to be racists while accepting money for the purpose of killing babies.   

What if the donor just said we need to kill more babies.  That's OK?  What if the donor said we need to kill more poor people's babies or kill more stupid people's babies.

As far as I am concerned Planned Parent Hoods are racists against the Human Race and being a baby killer is worse than being a racist.

I think that the Mother should be put to death along with the child during an abortion (obviously not in the case of rape or it being done due to true medical reasons) but the POS people that use it for birth control are murders and the scum of society.  They are the problem, not the child.
2008-03-17 08:10:55
liquix
Member
+51|6881|Peoples Republic of Portland
whats the percentage by race of children being raised by one parent?
2008-03-17 08:16:10
GorillaTicTacs
Member
+231|6800|Kyiv, Ukraine

liquix wrote:

whats the percentage by race of children being raised by one parent?
http://www.kidscount.org/datacenter/com … .jsp?i=722

The Google, your friend and mine
2008-03-17 08:20:35
liquix
Member
+51|6881|Peoples Republic of Portland

GorillaTicTacs wrote:

liquix wrote:

whats the percentage by race of children being raised by one parent?
http://www.kidscount.org/datacenter/com … .jsp?i=722

The Google, your friend and mine
Thanks Gorilla.

Non-Hispanic White                   23%
Black or African American        65%
American Indian                    49%
Asian and Pacific Islander          16%
Hispanic or Latino                     37%
Total                                       32%

http://www.kidscount.org/datacenter/com … .jsp?i=722

although I do not condone such comments, perhaps the worker was a poorly stated individual. If you look at the statistics, perhaps there is a reason she/he said that.

Once again, we probably won't find the answer to this question.

ps: I was surprised to see Native American children at 49%
2008-03-17 08:29:03
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6952|South Florida
Yo. Fact of the matter is, the lady at planned parenthood would agree with whatever the dude said just to be on his side to make him happy so he'll donate.
A generic answer like 'Understandable' just proves my point even more. It's not like the lady replied with "Death to all niggers!" or something.

Sheeeeeeesh!
15 more years! 15 more years!
2008-03-17 09:16:36
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|7123|NJ
Damn, I have to say if anyone wants to give me money for any reason call me and I'll be very agreeable.. They're taking money for a cause and that's all they need to do... Who cares what the reason the person is giving the money for.. Like the person who takes the money is going to put it in an envelope that says "Black baby money, only"..

When looking for a problem with something, you're going to be able to make one.

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2008-03-17 09:18:00
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7080

ATG wrote:

Lucien wrote:

Why is the transcript cut off?
Because I saw no need to post the whole thing. It would result in a wall of text nobody would read. There is a link  to the original story if you want the uncut transcript.
The transcript is cut in the article.
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
2008-03-17 21:29:27
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6832|North Carolina
Let's see, an Idaho newspaper reports that a right to life group tricks call center tool into saying racist shit.

This couldn't possibly be politically motivated in any way, shape, or form.  Certainly this isn't possible coming from one of the most conservative states in the whole fucking country.

Say what you will about Planned Parenthood, but the whole "they're racists killing black babies" is about as contrived as that Terri Schiavo bullshit that happened a year or so ago.

Basically, it's just a bunch of religious cunts with no sense of reality that want to ban abortion in all its forms without even considering for once what demands this would put on social programs.

If you want limited government and less crime, let people have a choice on abortion for fuck sake....   Otherwise, we'll be headed for a true nanny state in the most literal sense of that phrase....
2008-03-17 21:40:02
Locoloki
I got Mug 222 at Gritty's!!!!
+216|7067|Your moms bedroom
The way i see it, if someone is offering you money, you kiss their fucking ass and agree to no end

she sounded excited when she answered the phone, before any request was made

im sure she's used to deal with the lower end of society, now she gets to deal with someone making a large donation.

transcript wrote:

"Autumn Kersey of Planned Parenthood in Boise: Good afternoon, this is Autumn.

Donor: Hello, Autumn, I'm interested in making a donation today.

Kersey: Fantastic!

Donor: What about abortions for the underprivileged minority groups?

Kersey: Oh, absolutely. We have, um, in fact, uh wonderful, fantastic news. We just received a very generous donation to our women in need fund.

Donor: Wonderful. I want to specify that abortion to help a minority group - would that be possible?

Kersey: Absolutely.

Donor: Like the black community for example?

Kersey: Certainly.

Donor: OK, so the abortionI can give money specifically for a black baby, that would be the purpose.

Kersey: Absolutely. If you wanted to designate that you wanted your gift to be used to help (an) African-American woman in need, then we would certainly make sure that that gift was earmarked specifically for that purpose.

Donor: Great. Because I really face trouble with affirmative action, and I don't want my kids being disadvantaged, you know, against black kids. I just had a baby; I want to put it in his name, you know.

Kersey: Mmhmm, absolutely.

Donor: So that's definitely possible.

Kersey: Oh, always, always.

Donor: So I just wanna - can I put this in the name of my son?

Kersey: Absolutely.

Donor: Yeah, he's trying to get into colleges, and he's going to be applying, you know, he's justwe're just really bighe's really faced troubles with affirmative action.

Kersey: Mmhmm.

Donor: And we don't, you know, we just think, you know, the less black kids out there the better.

Kersey: (Laughs) Understandable, understandable. ... Um David, let me, if I may, just get some sort of specific general information so we can set this up the right way. You said you wanted to put it in your son's name, and you would like this designated specifically to assist (an) African-American woman who's looking to terminate a pregnancy.

Donor: Exactly, and yeah, I wanna protect my son, so he can get into college.

Kersey: All right. Excuse my hesitation, um, um, this is the first time I've had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I'm excited, and I wanna make sure I don't leave anything out. "

Transcript released by The Advocate
First of all, if your going to be anti-abortion, why stop at being black, why not call in and ask to say Jewish baby?

maybe Jessie Jackson can step in now and bring some light to anti-abortion

Its not like the abortion clinic is going to the hospital and asking mothers if they want to abort soley because they are black

BETTER YET

why didnt he call in and ask to make a donation for illegals abortions

oh shi.....

http://bubbleheads.blogspot.com/2008/01 … -that.html

probably because thats what he really wanted to say

Last edited by Locoloki (2008-03-17 21:58:00)

2008-03-18 08:25:04
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6872|The Land of Scott Walker
Do some research on the founder of Planned Parenthood, it gets even better than this.
2008-03-18 08:51:45
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6717|Éire

Lotta_Drool wrote:

I think that the Mother should be put to death along with the child during an abortion (obviously not in the case of rape or it being done due to true medical reasons) but the POS people that use it for birth control are murders and the scum of society.  They are the problem, not the child.
I love your conflicted way of thinking on this... I get the impression you oppose abortion yet at the same time advocate murdering a women who chooses to go through with it... mmmm. By the way I agree with you on the rest of your statement, I believe abortion should be an option on the grounds of rape and actual medical necessity; it should not be a form of birth control like some kind of last minute contraceptive.

The morning after pill is another thing altogether imo though, i have difficulty seeing a bundle of cells as a fully formed life and believe that terminating at that stage is in many ways kinder than the kind of life that might be experienced by the child if they were not properly planned for.
2008-03-18 09:08:05
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6956|Global Command

Braddock wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

I think that the Mother should be put to death along with the child during an abortion (obviously not in the case of rape or it being done due to true medical reasons) but the POS people that use it for birth control are murders and the scum of society.  They are the problem, not the child.
I love your conflicted way of thinking on this... I get the impression you oppose abortion yet at the same time advocate murdering a women who chooses to go through with it... mmmm. By the way I agree with you on the rest of your statement, I believe abortion should be an option on the grounds of rape and actual medical necessity; it should not be a form of birth control like some kind of last minute contraceptive.

The morning after pill is another thing altogether imo though, i have difficulty seeing a bundle of cells as a fully formed life and believe that terminating at that stage is in many ways kinder than the kind of life that might be experienced by the child if they were not properly planned for.
Sounds reasonable to me!

 

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