BF2S Forums Barrack speech on race

fadedsteve wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Am I the only one who suspects fadedsteve is a lib in disguise?  He seems almost TOO right wing sometimes...

I am Atilla the Hun in disguise, with a Winston Churchill wit!

You are about as witty as a Disney Channel original.

I can't believe the press over here. How you can hold someone else accountable for the acts of another is utterly beyond me. Way to grasp at straws. I hope people see through this bullshit.

ATG wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I can't believe the press over here. How you can hold someone else accountable for the acts of another is utterly beyond me. Way to grasp at straws. I hope people see through this bullshit.

You are a reflection of your friends and mentors.

He is a radical with a race based agenda.

Still probably better than McCain. More of the same will just not do.

I haven't felt any race-based agenda in any of the frankly quite few soundbites and speeches of his I've seen. He isn't dumb. He can't win the nomination or the election if he doesn't appeal to all colours and creeds.

ATG wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I can't believe the press over here. How you can hold someone else accountable for the acts of another is utterly beyond me. Way to grasp at straws. I hope people see through this bullshit.

You are a reflection of your friends and mentors.

He is a radical with a race based agenda.

Still probably better than McCain. More of the same will just not do.

Exactly! You are who you hangout with!

Example: Chances are. . . . Those folks who listen and hangout with David Duke probably agree with him too!!  Simply put, you are who you surround yourself with! If Barack attends a church who's pastor has anti-white/anti-American rhetoric. . . .  Chances are people who are ATTENDING this man's sermons/service AGREE WITH THE SHIT HE IS SAYING! Obama claims this man is his "mentor"!!! For christ sake the man married him to his wife!! Chances are Barack AGREES with the diarea coming out of that man's mouth! He may say he doesnt, but he is running for the Presidency of the United States he knows if he tells the truth HE IS FUCKED!! So he OBVIOUSLY lied to cover his ass!!

This shit boils my blood!! Obama is a see through! total and complete hand job of the first order!! He is wowing everybody with his speech but their isnt any substance behind it!! Geraldine Ferraro IS RIGHT! If Barack wasnt Black, Hillary would be thundering his ass! But since he is a smart, well spoken Black man, people are buying into his liberal bullshit!! I for one DO NOT!

While I still have issues with Obama's judgement in sitting in the pew for 20 years listening to this character...and then bringing someone with professed views like his into his campaign...

I have to agree with Turq's earlier post. It was a very inspiring speech. I hope, should Obama get the Dem nomination, that this lapse in judgement is not indicative of his overall approach, but rather an aberration.

I was at Arlington Cemetery this week, showing family around (and visiting a friend's grave). We stopped by JFK's burial site and I noticed--really noticed--the engraved words that border one side:

LET THE WORD GO FORTH
FROM THIS TIME AND PLACE
TO FRIEND AND FOE ALIKE
THAT THE TORCH HAS BEEN PASSED
TO A NEW GENERATION OF AMERICANS

LET EVERY NATION KNOW
WHETHER IT WISHES US WELL OR ILL
THAT WE SHALL PAY ANY PRICE - BEAR ANY BURDEN
MEET ANY HARDSHIP - SUPPORT ANY FRIEND
OPPOSE ANY FOE TO ASSURE THE SURVIVAL
AND THE SUCCESS OF LIBERTY

NOW THE TRUMPET SUMMONS US AGAIN
NOT AS A CALL TO BEAR ARMS - THOUGH EMBATTLED WE ARE
BUT A CALL TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF A LONG TWILIGHT STRUGGLE
A STRUGGLE AGAINST THE COMMON ENEMIES OF MAN
TYRANNY - POVERTY - DISEASE - AND WAR ITSELF

IN THE LONG HSTORY OF THE WORLD
ONLY A FEW GENERATIONS HAVE BEEN GRANTED
THE ROLE OF DEFENDING FREEDOM
IN ITS HOUR OF MAXIMUM DANGER
I DO NOT SHRINK FROM THIS RESPONSIBILITY
I WELCOME IT

THE ENERGY - THE FAITH - THE DEVOTION
WHICH WE BRING TO THIS ENDEAVOR
WILL LIGHT OUR COUNTY
AND ALL WHO SERVE IT
AND THE GLOW FROM THAT FIRE
CAN TRULY LIGHT THE WORLD

AND SO MY FELLOW AMERICANS
ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU
ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY
MY FELLOW CITIZENS OF THE WORLD - ASK NOT
WHAT AMERICA CAN DO FOR YOU - BUT WHAT TOGETHER
WE CAN DO FOR THE FREEDOM OF MAN

WITH A GOOD CONSCIENCE OUR ONLY SURE REWARD
WITH HISTORY THE FINAL JUDGE OF OUR DEEDS
LET US GO FORTH TO LEAD THE LAND WE LOVE - ASKING HIS BLESSING
AND HIS HELP - BUT KNOWING THAT HERE ON EARTH
GOD'S WORK MUST TRULY BE OUR OWN

I realized how long it had been since we had a President who could so eloquently express hard-to-define ideas. Obama certainly can do that.

Even though, IMO, the Rev Wright issue was not about race, the fact that Obama decided to make it about race has been beneficial to the overall discussion (it certainly benefits him because it removes the focus from his poor judgement). While the cynic in me believes his shift in focus is an exercise in self-preservation, I also recognize that he has picked a scab that has needed picking for a long time in this country. He addresses not just the concerns of the minorities, but also the concerns of the majority. He points out that racism takes many forms, and all sides are guilty of it. That is a national discussion that needs to take place--has needed to take place for a very long time. It's just a shame that it couldn't have taken place absent this Presidential campaign season.

He's unelectable for the hopelessly dense.

Blind patriotism only works for idiots, which admittedly, we do have a lot of....

ssulli wrote:

Not the pledge, btw, the Star-Spangled Banner. 

In grade school when we'd say the Pledge of Allegiance we would put our hands on our hearts.  But not the National Anthem.  We'd just stand respectfully.  Also applies to baseball games I've attended.  If he were wearing a baseball cap & smoking a cigarette while sitting down, I'd see it as disrespectful.  Not here though.  Come to think of it, the only thing I find offensive in this is the singer.

I put my hand over my heart during the Banner!! If I am wearing my hat I put it over my heart!!

Its RESPECT! Its about where and who brought you up! Even Richardson has his fucking hand over his heart! 

Fuck Obama he is a total see through douchebag!

HEY BARACK whats the bill on government universal health care. . . .?? WAIT BARACK I CANT HEAR YOU. . . .  CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER!?? Oh thats right. . . . he wont say how much government run universal health care will cost the American taxpayer!

STFU! Obama is a flash in the pan! He thought just cause he is a witty, educated, black dude people are going to feel sorry for him and give him a chance! Truth is HE HASNT DONE A DAMN THING in the Senate! Not a fucking thing! He is naive and unqualified PURE AND SIMPLE!  Its not a race thing, its a "Does America need a raging liberal running the show" thing!! And the answer is WE DONT!

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-che … iotic.html

ATG wrote:

Obama is unelectable.

Here is a picture of him during the Pledge.
http://www.rightwingnews.com/graphics/o … riotic.jpg

If only this inaccurate and empty logic were true.