blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7125
https://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20080319/fbi1.jpg

The FBI has recently adopted a novel investigative technique: posting hyperlinks that purport to be illegal videos of minors having sex, and then raiding the homes of anyone willing to click on them.

Undercover FBI agents used this hyperlink-enticement technique, which directed Internet users to a clandestine government server, to stage armed raids of homes in Pennsylvania, New York, and Nevada last year. The supposed video files actually were gibberish and contained no illegal images.

A CNET News.com review of legal documents shows that courts have approved of this technique, even though it raises questions about entrapment, the problems of identifying who's using an open wireless connection--and whether anyone who clicks on a FBI link that contains no child pornography should be automatically subject to a dawn raid by federal police.

Roderick Vosburgh, a doctoral student at Temple University who also taught history at La Salle University, was raided at home in February 2007 after he accidentally(allegedly) clicked on the FBI's hyperlink. Federal agents knocked on the door around 7 a.m., falsely claiming they wanted to talk to Vosburgh about his car. Once he opened the door, they threw him to the ground outside his house and handcuffed him. Vosburgh was charged with violating federal law, which criminalizes "attempts" to download child pornography with up to 10 years in prison. Last November, a jury found Vosburgh guilty on that count, and a sentencing hearing is scheduled for April 22, at which point Vosburgh could face three to four years in prison.

The implications of the FBI's hyperlink-enticement technique are sweeping. Using the same logic and legal arguments, federal agents could send unsolicited e-mail messages to millions of Americans advertising illegal narcotics or child pornography--and raid people who click on the links embedded in the spam messages. The bureau could register the "unlawfulimages.com" domain name and prosecute intentional visitors. And so on.

"The evidence was insufficient for a reasonable jury to find that Mr. Vosburgh specifically intended to download child pornography, a necessary element of any 'attempt' offense," Vosburgh's attorney, Anna Durbin of Ardmore, Penn., wrote in a court filing that is attempting to overturn the jury verdict before her client is sentenced.

In a telephone conversation on Wednesday, Durbin added: "I thought it was scary that they could do this. This whole idea that the FBI can put a honeypot out there to attract people is kind of sad. It seems to me that they've brought a lot of cases without having to stoop to this."

Durbin did not want to be interviewed more extensively about the case because it is still pending; she's waiting for U.S. District Judge Timothy Savage to rule on her motion. Unless he agrees with her and overturns the jury verdict, Vosburgh--who has no prior criminal record--will be required to register as a sex offender for 15 years and will be effectively barred from continuing his work as a college instructor after his prison sentence ends.

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Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6927|Boulder, CO
Wow, thats desperate and very dodgy ground legally.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7323|Alberta, Canada

Curiosity kills the cat, again.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7017|Long Island, New York
Yeah, that's our government for you.
Kurazoo
Pheasant Plucker
+440|7164|West Yorkshire, U.K
Oh shi-
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7323|Alberta, Canada

www.childpornographyisforlonelymen.com

Click it and go to jail, foos.
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7125

Ryan wrote:

www.childpornographyisforlonelymen.com

Click it and go to jail, foos.
get the link off u gonna get us all arrested lolz
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7323|Reykjavík, Iceland.
This is retarded. Arresting on the grounds of "trying to download child pornography" because of a single click of a hyperlink is bound to arrest A LOT of innocent people.

I'd bet that those fuckers who are really downloading child porn would be careful enough not to click those dodgy links, whereas, a child that doesn't have complete English vocabulary, ie: Sees the word "child" but has no idea what "pornography" means, so the child clicks the link...Could happen.

Very bad idea IMO.
Luigi
Sniper Whore
+97|6658|Wisconsin

blademaster wrote:

Ryan wrote:

www.childpornographyisforlonelymen.com

Click it and go to jail, foos.
get the link off u gonna get us all arrested lolz
lol
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|7132|pimelteror.de
your country sucks.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7323|Alberta, Canada

Now anyone can go to their friends house and get them in jail.
SgtSlutter
Banned
+550|7117|Amsterdam, NY

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

your country sucks.
no u
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7017|Long Island, New York

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

your country sucks.
oh wow, ignorance, gg

we kicked your ass

twice
KuSTaV
noice
+947|6991|Gold Coast

PBAsydney wrote:

This is retarded. Arresting on the grounds of "trying to download child pornography" because of a single click of a hyperlink is bound to arrest A LOT of innocent people.

I'd bet that those fuckers who are really downloading child porn would be careful enough not to click those dodgy links, whereas, a child that doesn't have complete English vocabulary, ie: Sees the word "child" but has no idea what "pornography" means, so the child clicks the link...Could happen.

Very bad idea IMO.
You just dont want to get caught!

Anyway, yea I agree
noice                                                                                                        https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/awsmsanta.png
Luigi
Sniper Whore
+97|6658|Wisconsin

Poseidon wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

your country sucks.
oh wow, ignorance, gg

we kicked your ass

twice
owned tbh
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7323|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Ryan wrote:

Now anyone can go to their friends house and get them in jail.
Or just see a hyperlink like that, copy it without clicking, tinyurl it, and send to anyone.

Poseidon wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

your country sucks.
oh wow, ignorance, gg

we kicked your ass

twice
Ok, you're government sucks.

You can't deny that.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7017|Long Island, New York

PBAsydney wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Now anyone can go to their friends house and get them in jail.
Or just see a hyperlink like that, copy it without clicking, tinyurl it, and send to anyone.

Poseidon wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

your country sucks.
oh wow, ignorance, gg

we kicked your ass

twice
Ok, you're government sucks.

You can't deny that.
Hell, I AGREE with it!
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7125

Poseidon wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Now anyone can go to their friends house and get them in jail.
Or just see a hyperlink like that, copy it without clicking, tinyurl it, and send to anyone.

Poseidon wrote:


oh wow, ignorance, gg

we kicked your ass

twice
Ok, you're government sucks.

You can't deny that.
Hell, I AGREE with it!
any ideas on how to solve the problem?
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7123
this looks like an attempt to get a unique ad banner
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6970|Northern California
To stand up in court as "intent to download," a link would surely have to have that specified.  It's one thing to go to a site advertising such content, but then to have a download or "view" link to the illegal content with confirmation language saying what the content is (even burried in typical legal wording or age verification type stuff) would surely nail the perves in court.

But yes, there should be better ways to catch the perves out there.  Be nice if they just hired hackers to find child porn on computers...hackers in Egypt, at their rendition centers with no specific ties to the US Government...of course.
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|7154|Florida, United States

Once I find one of these links, I'm definitely e-mailing it to some of my enemies.  Oh, the potential lulz.
Rubix-Cubes
Member
+123|7135|UK
thats crazy, my nephew came over to mine the other night whilst his mum and dad went out, and he asked me if i had any games on my pc that he could play, i let him play a few rounds of BF but he was to young to get to grips with it, SO i said why dont you do a search for FREE CHILD GAMES opps!!! i showd him how to do it and went off to make a cuppa, THINKING HE WOULD BE SAFE, by the time i got back he had opend 6 new tabs had his pants down and was fapping WTFFFFFF!!!!!


but seriously if a guy buys a gun dont mean his going to shoot anyone does it

Last edited by Rubix-Cubes (2008-03-20 17:29:04)

AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6632|what

omg wtf Rubix! Thats so funny.


Seriously though, it is entrapment. The FBI would be better at targetting the makers and distributors of child porn, rather than just those who look at it.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7017|Long Island, New York

blademaster wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Now anyone can go to their friends house and get them in jail.
Or just see a hyperlink like that, copy it without clicking, tinyurl it, and send to anyone.


Ok, you're government sucks.

You can't deny that.
Hell, I AGREE with it!
any ideas on how to solve the problem?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/08/01/PH2007080101279.jpg

STOP! Obama time.
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7134

Isn't that entrapment, in which case it's illegal for the FBI/Police/Whatever to do?

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