eEyOrE
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hey!

so im going to get myself an x-box. i was wondering how this wLan thing works, because i dont think i have a router, just a normal modem (not 56kbp though ).

so, can anyone tell me where exactly i stand right now, cuz im a bit confused....thx!!!!!


eEyOrE
']['error
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I think you need an "network hub", where you plug in all the network cables of the xboxes. I think it should work then, you can buy one of those for like €10-15, not expensive at all

edit: https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41XPEFFYK4L._AA280_.jpg

edit2: aw shit it is wireless, erm.. I do think you need a wireless router then, but I'm not sure.

Last edited by ']['error (2008-03-23 02:34:20)

mikkel
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']['error wrote:

I think you need an "network hub", where you plug in all the network cables of the xboxes. I think it should work then, you can buy one of those for like €10-15, not expensive at all

edit: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4 … AA280_.jpg

edit2: aw shit it is wireless, erm.. I do think you need a wireless router then, but I'm not sure.
Never, ever, ever get a hub. Get a switch.
Jenspm
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+1,716|7006|St. Andrews / Oslo

mikkel wrote:

']['error wrote:

I think you need an "network hub", where you plug in all the network cables of the xboxes. I think it should work then, you can buy one of those for like €10-15, not expensive at all

edit: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4 … AA280_.jpg

edit2: aw shit it is wireless, erm.. I do think you need a wireless router then, but I'm not sure.
Never, ever, ever get a hub. Get a switch.
yer.


You'll have to remember that the XBox Wireless adapter only supports 802.11g signals, so there's no point in getting an 802.11n router.



I would, however, recommend powerline networking from linksys. So much more stable.
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mikkel
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Jenspm wrote:

mikkel wrote:

']['error wrote:

I think you need an "network hub", where you plug in all the network cables of the xboxes. I think it should work then, you can buy one of those for like €10-15, not expensive at all

edit: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4 … AA280_.jpg

edit2: aw shit it is wireless, erm.. I do think you need a wireless router then, but I'm not sure.
Never, ever, ever get a hub. Get a switch.
yer.


You'll have to remember that the XBox Wireless adapter only supports 802.11g signals, so there's no point in getting an 802.11n router.



I would, however, recommend powerline networking from linksys. So much more stable.
You have to make sure that your electrical wiring can handle it, though. Even though some powerline hardware is advertised as being able to jump phases, this is often not true if there are things like conditioners or safety relays in your installation. When it works, though, it's a thing of beauty.
eEyOrE
LINKS 2 3 4
+14|6270|Berlin, Germany
thx guys! ill try that out and see how it works!

thank you again!

eEyOrE
']['error
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+630|6917|The Netherlands

mikkel wrote:

']['error wrote:

I think you need an "network hub", where you plug in all the network cables of the xboxes. I think it should work then, you can buy one of those for like €10-15, not expensive at all

edit: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4 … AA280_.jpg

edit2: aw shit it is wireless, erm.. I do think you need a wireless router then, but I'm not sure.
Never, ever, ever get a hub. Get a switch.
What is wrong with a hub? me and my brother share an internet connection via an hub in the living room, no problems at all...
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6841|NYC / Hamburg

']['error wrote:

mikkel wrote:

']['error wrote:

I think you need an "network hub", where you plug in all the network cables of the xboxes. I think it should work then, you can buy one of those for like €10-15, not expensive at all

edit: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4 … AA280_.jpg

edit2: aw shit it is wireless, erm.. I do think you need a wireless router then, but I'm not sure.
Never, ever, ever get a hub. Get a switch.
What is wrong with a hub? me and my brother share an internet connection via an hub in the living room, no problems at all...
if you're running a nice small network it doesn't make a difference really. But if you run a huge network with all sorts of different connections the added "intelligence" in the switches does help to avoid problems.

these days switches are just as cheap as hubs though, so you might as well get a switch

Last edited by max (2008-03-23 06:05:34)

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mikkel wrote:

']['error wrote:

I think you need an "network hub", where you plug in all the network cables of the xboxes. I think it should work then, you can buy one of those for like €10-15, not expensive at all

edit: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4 … AA280_.jpg

edit2: aw shit it is wireless, erm.. I do think you need a wireless router then, but I'm not sure.
Never, ever, ever get a hub. Get a switch.
Gee, why do they still make hubs then? /sarcasm

A hub is good enough for a small network with low activity.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-03-23 06:10:49)

Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7006|St. Andrews / Oslo

mikkel wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

mikkel wrote:


Never, ever, ever get a hub. Get a switch.
yer.


You'll have to remember that the XBox Wireless adapter only supports 802.11g signals, so there's no point in getting an 802.11n router.



I would, however, recommend powerline networking from linksys. So much more stable.
You have to make sure that your electrical wiring can handle it, though. Even though some powerline hardware is advertised as being able to jump phases, this is often not true if there are things like conditioners or safety relays in your installation. When it works, though, it's a thing of beauty.
Yes, I forgot that.

It works quite well on old circuits, and even better on new circuits, but having them on 2 different circuits won't work well.
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mikkel
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']['error wrote:

mikkel wrote:

']['error wrote:

I think you need an "network hub", where you plug in all the network cables of the xboxes. I think it should work then, you can buy one of those for like €10-15, not expensive at all

edit: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4 … AA280_.jpg

edit2: aw shit it is wireless, erm.. I do think you need a wireless router then, but I'm not sure.
Never, ever, ever get a hub. Get a switch.
What is wrong with a hub? me and my brother share an internet connection via an hub in the living room, no problems at all...
Because typically the prices are about the same, and a switch is infinitely better.

A hub is essentially a multi-port repeater. It connects computers by way of connecting each port to a copper backplane. That means that every node connected to that hub is on the same physical segment, meaning that all data sent will reach all nodes on the network. Everytime a node wants to send something onto the network in this kind of topology, it has to check to see if any other node is transmitting anything. This introduces severe latency on the network if other nodes are transmitting frequently across the network. It also introduces the possibility of collisions, which is when the electrical signals carrying the data collide and scramble, forcing all nodes to stop sending data for a randomised hold-down period before resuming transmission.

A switch performs microsegmentation, meaning that instead of creating a physical connection between all nodes on the switch, it creates logical pathways through integrated controllers to the queue on the port that the destination node is connected to, which the switch learns by analysing any traffic going through it. That means that you can run a dedicated full-duplex connection to each node, without having to worry about collisions and other other filthy shared medium drawbacks.

Essentially, on a hub, the throughout advertised, typically 100Mbps, is shared amongst ALL nodes attached to it, while with a switch, each port on the switch would get the full 100Mbps throughput. On a hub, one person transmitting data heavily can mess up the entire network, and introduce a lot of latency, whereas switches typically operate with FIFO queueing, meaning that your data won't be delayed significantly.

There's really nothing but drawbacks to a hub when comparing it to a switch, and at a neglible price difference, the switch is really the way to go.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

mikkel wrote:

Never, ever, ever get a hub. Get a switch.
Gee, why do they still make hubs then? /sarcasm

A hub is good enough for a small network with low activity.
Because hubs are easier and cheaper to manufacture. The simple fact that something is being made doesn't alone make it worth buying.

Last edited by mikkel (2008-03-23 06:37:22)

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