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2008-03-29 07:04:32
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6963|Devon, England
Ok, here's my question:

Before today, I had 2GB of RAM in my PC, this kind:

https://www.superwarehouse.com/images/products/corsair_TWIN2X2048_twin.jpg

I got this delivered today:

https://www.ocztechnology.com/images/products/memory/b/PDDR2atidc.jpg

My question is...

What combination would benefit me more (please, tell me if this is a stupid question, too. I wanna learn ):

2GB of the OCZ Platinum

or

4GB of the OCZ and Corsair mixed.

I aks this, because I know the the Corsair is a lower spec, so I think it will bring the OCZ's speed down.

Anyway, help would be appreciated
2008-03-29 07:07:00
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
Big Mouth Prick
+219|6803|Golf 1.8 GTI Wolfsburg Edition
I rather have lower speeds and more RAM than less RAM and higer speeds.
2008-03-29 07:07:17
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7115|Reykjavík, Iceland.
32-bit: 2GB faster
64-bit: 4GB slower

I'd say.
2008-03-29 07:10:19
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6963|Devon, England
So as I use 32bit XP, 2GB is better?
2008-03-29 07:11:36
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6469|Winland

If they're both DDR800 and you won't do any mega-overclocking, I say that you go with 4GB. The timings won't matter a lot anyhow.

FFLink13 wrote:

So as I use 32bit XP, 2GB is better?
No, 3GB is.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-03-29 07:12:14)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-03-29 07:13:39
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6839|NYC / Hamburg

I'd run all modules for a total of 4GB (or since you are running 32 bit more like 3.5GB). More ram should outweigh the disadvantage of the slower ram
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2008-03-29 07:16:28
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7115|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Freezer7Pro wrote:

If they're both DDR800 and you won't do any mega-overclocking, I say that you go with 4GB. The timings won't matter a lot anyhow.

FFLink13 wrote:

So as I use 32bit XP, 2GB is better?
No, 3GB is.
Well, you might argue that 2GB of faster RAM would be better than 3GB of slower, since 2GB can be run dual channel.
2008-03-29 11:12:03
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6963|Devon, England
Hmm...

Is there a fast way to test which would be better? Zimmer linked me to memtest.co.uk or something... Should I just try that?
2008-03-29 11:26:40
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6735|cuntshitlake

What speed are the corsairs?
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2008-03-29 11:28:31
Nessie09
I "fix" things
+107|6942|The Netherlands

PBAsydney wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

If they're both DDR800 and you won't do any mega-overclocking, I say that you go with 4GB. The timings won't matter a lot anyhow.

FFLink13 wrote:

So as I use 32bit XP, 2GB is better?
No, 3GB is.
Well, you might argue that 2GB of faster RAM would be better than 3GB of slower, since 2GB can be run dual channel.
Not with 2x 512 and 2x 1024 (although that's not the case in this thread, but meh)
2008-03-29 12:23:32
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6735|cuntshitlake

For gaming 2gb 800MHz
For PS etc 4gb 667MHz
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2008-03-29 13:45:59
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6469|Winland

PBAsydney wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

If they're both DDR800 and you won't do any mega-overclocking, I say that you go with 4GB. The timings won't matter a lot anyhow.

FFLink13 wrote:

So as I use 32bit XP, 2GB is better?
No, 3GB is.
Well, you might argue that 2GB of faster RAM would be better than 3GB of slower, since 2GB can be run dual channel.
Uhm, wut? I don't know about his, but at least my mobo can run different kinds of RAM in two dual-channel configurations. When I read your post, I decided to try putting 2x 1GB PC3200 DDR2 in togheter with my 2x 1GB PC6400. And sure enough, it still reports as dual-channel in both the BIOS and Windows.

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0077-1.jpg

Something's a bit strange, though, as it reports as running the RAM at 533MHz, and I know from experience that the PC3200 won't boot if I raise the clock by 10MHz...
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-03-29 13:56:10
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6596|New Haven, CT
You should try both configurations, running a 3dMark06 test with each of them. If the difference is statistically insignificant (0-300), then just use the 4GB. Obviously, if one configuration is better, just use that.

Also remember that mixing RAM manufacturers isn't typically a good a idea.
2008-03-29 13:58:46
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6469|Winland

nukchebi0 wrote:

Also remember that mixing RAM manufacturers isn't typically a good a idea.
Where does that come from, really? From the EDO times? I hear that over and over, and I've been mixing RAM like a mad DJ ever since I started with computers, about 7 years ago. And I've never had one, single problem caused by mixing manufacturers/speeds. Ever.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-03-29 14:04:50
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7115|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Freezer7Pro wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

If they're both DDR800 and you won't do any mega-overclocking, I say that you go with 4GB. The timings won't matter a lot anyhow.

No, 3GB is.
Well, you might argue that 2GB of faster RAM would be better than 3GB of slower, since 2GB can be run dual channel.
Uhm, wut? I don't know about his, but at least my mobo can run different kinds of RAM in two dual-channel configurations. When I read your post, I decided to try putting 2x 1GB PC3200 DDR2 in togheter with my 2x 1GB PC6400. And sure enough, it still reports as dual-channel in both the BIOS and Windows.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/ … 0077-1.jpg

Something's a bit strange, though, as it reports as running the RAM at 533MHz, and I know from experience that the PC3200 won't boot if I raise the clock by 10MHz...
You can't run 3x1GB in dual channel.
2008-03-29 15:18:58
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6469|Winland

PBAsydney wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:


Well, you might argue that 2GB of faster RAM would be better than 3GB of slower, since 2GB can be run dual channel.
Uhm, wut? I don't know about his, but at least my mobo can run different kinds of RAM in two dual-channel configurations. When I read your post, I decided to try putting 2x 1GB PC3200 DDR2 in togheter with my 2x 1GB PC6400. And sure enough, it still reports as dual-channel in both the BIOS and Windows.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/ … 0077-1.jpg

Something's a bit strange, though, as it reports as running the RAM at 533MHz, and I know from experience that the PC3200 won't boot if I raise the clock by 10MHz...
You can't run 3x1GB in dual channel.
Shouldn't the 2x1GB run in a dual-channel configuration, whiles the single 1GB stick runs in it's own channel?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-03-29 16:22:51
CrazeD
Member
+368|6945|Maine

max wrote:

More ram should outweigh the disadvantage of the slower ram
Eh...only to an extent.
2008-03-29 16:50:23
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6469|Winland

CrazeD wrote:

max wrote:

More ram should outweigh the disadvantage of the slower ram
Eh...only to an extent.
Yes, and that's with extremely bandwidth-hungry CPUs, like FSB1333 CPUs. FSB1066 likes DDR800, DDR533 and DDR667, as DDR533 basically suits it's needs with a 333MHz bus. Of course, that's just the theory. But the loss in running DDR800 and 667 combined won't be extreme with an FSB1066 CPU.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-03-29 16:53:07
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7115|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Freezer7Pro wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


Uhm, wut? I don't know about his, but at least my mobo can run different kinds of RAM in two dual-channel configurations. When I read your post, I decided to try putting 2x 1GB PC3200 DDR2 in togheter with my 2x 1GB PC6400. And sure enough, it still reports as dual-channel in both the BIOS and Windows.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/ … 0077-1.jpg

Something's a bit strange, though, as it reports as running the RAM at 533MHz, and I know from experience that the PC3200 won't boot if I raise the clock by 10MHz...
You can't run 3x1GB in dual channel.
Shouldn't the 2x1GB run in a dual-channel configuration, whiles the single 1GB stick runs in it's own channel?
Really? I thought dual channel was "all or nothing", either all of them are in dual channel, or none. ie: 2x1gb, 2x512mb would work, both in dual channel, but because a single 1gb would be single channel the 2x1gb won't go dual.

 

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