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I can live with that...Poseidon wrote:
Well, no. Good point. I just said it's more than likely your own fault. AKA having unprotected sex with someone you don't know well.Turquoise wrote:
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but consider this... Let's say you're married, but your wife is secretly cheating on you with someone who doesn't know he has HIV. Your wife ends up getting HIV without knowing it, and then you get it from her. Assuming you aren't having protected sex with her all the time, it wasn't really your fault that you got it, was it?Poseidon wrote:
Well, perhaps I should have said unprotected sex.
If you have protected sex and get AIDS, then no, it's not your fault. But if you have unprotected sex and get it, then yes, it's your own damn fault.
They should have just nuked Haiti.
and how long do you need to know someone before you KNOW they are not infected? Have you EVER had unprotected sex? Assuming you have had sex at all?Poseidon wrote:
Well, no. Good point. I just said it's more than likely your own fault. AKA having unprotected sex with someone you don't know well.Turquoise wrote:
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but consider this... Let's say you're married, but your wife is secretly cheating on you with someone who doesn't know he has HIV. Your wife ends up getting HIV without knowing it, and then you get it from her. Assuming you aren't having protected sex with her all the time, it wasn't really your fault that you got it, was it?Poseidon wrote:
Well, perhaps I should have said unprotected sex.
If you have protected sex and get AIDS, then no, it's not your fault. But if you have unprotected sex and get it, then yes, it's your own damn fault.
How long? Not that long, just not someone who you met in a club or something.lowing wrote:
and how long do you need to know someone before you KNOW they are not infected? Have you EVER had unprotected sex? Assuming you have had sex at all?Poseidon wrote:
Well, no. Good point. I just said it's more than likely your own fault. AKA having unprotected sex with someone you don't know well.Turquoise wrote:
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but consider this... Let's say you're married, but your wife is secretly cheating on you with someone who doesn't know he has HIV. Your wife ends up getting HIV without knowing it, and then you get it from her. Assuming you aren't having protected sex with her all the time, it wasn't really your fault that you got it, was it?
I've had sex...I'd say about 6 times now? I have a..well, for lack of a better word, a fuck buddy. :S And considering I'm not even 18 yet, not once would I even THINK about having unprotected sex. No way.
Plus, I pull out. Self control FTW. -insert Quagmire giggity noise here-
For someone that despises "generalizing" you and others sure seem to be chalk full of it in this discussion.Poseidon wrote:
How long? Not that long, just not someone who you met in a club or something.lowing wrote:
and how long do you need to know someone before you KNOW they are not infected? Have you EVER had unprotected sex? Assuming you have had sex at all?Poseidon wrote:
Well, no. Good point. I just said it's more than likely your own fault. AKA having unprotected sex with someone you don't know well.
I've had sex...I'd say about 6 times now? I have a..well, for lack of a better word, a fuck buddy. :S And considering I'm not even 18 yet, not once would I even THINK about having unprotected sex. No way.
Plus, I pull out. Self control FTW. -insert Quagmire giggity noise here-
Enlighten me Mr. Himmler, how exactly am I generalizing?lowing wrote:
For someone that despises "generalizing" you and others sure seem to be chalk full of it in this discussion.Poseidon wrote:
How long? Not that long, just not someone who you met in a club or something.lowing wrote:
and how long do you need to know someone before you KNOW they are not infected? Have you EVER had unprotected sex? Assuming you have had sex at all?
I've had sex...I'd say about 6 times now? I have a..well, for lack of a better word, a fuck buddy. :S And considering I'm not even 18 yet, not once would I even THINK about having unprotected sex. No way.
Plus, I pull out. Self control FTW. -insert Quagmire giggity noise here-
Admittedly, I haven't used protection as much I should, and I made some very stupid choices (but got lucky in not catching anything) when I was around your age, but it's good to see that you're being responsible about this sort of thing.Poseidon wrote:
How long? Not that long, just not someone who you met in a club or something.lowing wrote:
and how long do you need to know someone before you KNOW they are not infected? Have you EVER had unprotected sex? Assuming you have had sex at all?Poseidon wrote:
Well, no. Good point. I just said it's more than likely your own fault. AKA having unprotected sex with someone you don't know well.
I've had sex...I'd say about 6 times now? I have a..well, for lack of a better word, a fuck buddy. :S And considering I'm not even 18 yet, not once would I even THINK about having unprotected sex. No way.
Plus, I pull out. Self control FTW. -insert Quagmire giggity noise here-
Oh yeah, and coitus interruptus FTW! lol
Granted, that in combination with her using the pill (or the shot) is the safest.
Turquoise wrote:
Admittedly, I haven't used protection as much I should, and I made some very stupid choices (but got lucky in not catching anything) when I was around your age, but it's good to see that you're being responsible about this sort of thing.Poseidon wrote:
How long? Not that long, just not someone who you met in a club or something.lowing wrote:
and how long do you need to know someone before you KNOW they are not infected? Have you EVER had unprotected sex? Assuming you have had sex at all?
I've had sex...I'd say about 6 times now? I have a..well, for lack of a better word, a fuck buddy. :S And considering I'm not even 18 yet, not once would I even THINK about having unprotected sex. No way.
Plus, I pull out. Self control FTW. -insert Quagmire giggity noise here-
Oh yeah, and coitus interruptus FTW! lol
Granted, that in combination with her using the pill (or the shot) is the safest.
Best pseudo-scientific term I've ever heard. +1 to you good sir!
And yeah, she's gonna go on the pill most likely.
http://forums.bf2s.com/post.php?tid=978 … id=2011095Poseidon wrote:
Enlighten me Mr. Himmler, how exactly am I generalizing?lowing wrote:
For someone that despises "generalizing" you and others sure seem to be chalk full of it in this discussion.Poseidon wrote:
How long? Not that long, just not someone who you met in a club or something.
I've had sex...I'd say about 6 times now? I have a..well, for lack of a better word, a fuck buddy. :S And considering I'm not even 18 yet, not once would I even THINK about having unprotected sex. No way.
Plus, I pull out. Self control FTW. -insert Quagmire giggity noise here-
This coupled with your attitude about AIDS/HIV = generalizing
LOL!lowing wrote:
http://forums.bf2s.com/post.php?tid=978 … id=2011095Poseidon wrote:
Enlighten me Mr. Himmler, how exactly am I generalizing?lowing wrote:
For someone that despises "generalizing" you and others sure seem to be chalk full of it in this discussion.
This coupled with your attitude about AIDS/HIV = generalizing
Because I said people who get AIDS from unprotected sex more than likely got it because of their own fault?
Oh yeah, that's generalizing. You have the logistic skills of a tree stump.
Inane topics like this are reason enough to completely ignore this forum.lowing wrote:
Your thoughts
We should quarantine idiots.
No because you said "HIV is preventable", you are saying that people that get it did it to themselves. Now start back peddling and deny that this not what you meant.Poseidon wrote:
LOL!lowing wrote:
http://forums.bf2s.com/post.php?tid=978 … id=2011095Poseidon wrote:
Enlighten me Mr. Himmler, how exactly am I generalizing?
This coupled with your attitude about AIDS/HIV = generalizing
Because I said people who get AIDS from unprotected sex more than likely got it because of their own fault?
Oh yeah, that's generalizing. You have the logistic skills of a tree stump.
And reconstructing the topic from that to this (^^^ above) would take a microsecond.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
We should quarantine idiots.
And/or ban:
Muslims to!
... and gays (cause' that can lead to AIDs).
and so on...
PS (below): I will.
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Not sure why this exploration of morality and the cost of it, is an inane topic. but feel free to ignore this thread if you wishtopal63 wrote:
Inane topics like this are reason enough to completely ignore this forum.lowing wrote:
Your thoughts
Actually, I already said this thread is not to trap anyone into a corner for another discussion. If you actually read the posts, istead of trolling you would have seen that.topal63 wrote:
And reconstructing the topic from that to this (^^^ above) would take a microsecond.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
We should quarantine idiots.
And/or:
Muslims to!
... and gays (cause' that can lead to AIDs).
and so on...
PS: I will.
No, that's Serge's forte.lowing wrote:
Actually, I already said this thread is not to trap anyone into a corner for another discussion. If you actually read the posts, istead of trolling you would have seen that.topal63 wrote:
And reconstructing the topic from that to this (^^^ above) would take a microsecond.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
We should quarantine idiots.
And/or:
Muslims to!
... and gays (cause' that can lead to AIDs).
and so on...
PS: I will.
Idiocy is definitely contagious... It helps explain why political parties and talk radio exist.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
We should quarantine idiots.
Yup. It is. Just as colds are. But some people can't help getting colds either if they don't know their friend or whatever has it. But if the friend TELLS them, then it's preventable.lowing wrote:
No because you said "HIV is preventable", you are saying that people that get it did it to themselves. Now start back peddling and deny that this not what you meant.Poseidon wrote:
LOL!lowing wrote:
http://forums.bf2s.com/post.php?tid=978 … id=2011095
This coupled with your attitude about AIDS/HIV = generalizing
Because I said people who get AIDS from unprotected sex more than likely got it because of their own fault?
Oh yeah, that's generalizing. You have the logistic skills of a tree stump.
Nah...then we wouldn't have lowing's posts to laugh at.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
We should quarantine idiots.
HIV and AIDS are two different things, just to note, HIV causes AIDS, and not all people who have HIV have AIDS.
They're developing a sort of cream or something that prevents the virus from spreading - it comes from a protien in tobacco plants that kills the virus or something. I saw it on a show on National Geographic. Currently there are laws against intentionally spreading infectious diseases - I saw something about that on the Steve Wilkos show. It's necessary to arrest these bastards, and not violate the civil rights of the victim.
Most people who are diagnosed with HIV act responsible. They tell everyone they slept with to get tested, they tell any new boyfriends/girlfriends, and basically try not to do any harm. What you want to do is say "Because a few people did something, you all are fucked."
They're developing a sort of cream or something that prevents the virus from spreading - it comes from a protien in tobacco plants that kills the virus or something. I saw it on a show on National Geographic. Currently there are laws against intentionally spreading infectious diseases - I saw something about that on the Steve Wilkos show. It's necessary to arrest these bastards, and not violate the civil rights of the victim.
Most people who are diagnosed with HIV act responsible. They tell everyone they slept with to get tested, they tell any new boyfriends/girlfriends, and basically try not to do any harm. What you want to do is say "Because a few people did something, you all are fucked."
If HIV was preventable, I am pretty sure it would have been prevented, just like a cold, if it were preventable I am pretty sure people would opt to prevent it. Just a guess though. Anyway, you are generalizing by saying HIV is preventable and suggest that people that get it are at fault.Poseidon wrote:
Yup. It is. Just as colds are. But some people can't help getting colds either if they don't know their friend or whatever has it. But if the friend TELLS them, then it's preventable.lowing wrote:
No because you said "HIV is preventable", you are saying that people that get it did it to themselves. Now start back peddling and deny that this not what you meant.Poseidon wrote:
LOL!
Because I said people who get AIDS from unprotected sex more than likely got it because of their own fault?
Oh yeah, that's generalizing. You have the logistic skills of a tree stump.Nah...then we wouldn't have lowing's posts to laugh at.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
We should quarantine idiots.
your attacks are not working, I rarly react to teenagers who wanna act like they have a clue. I will dismiss your attacks as youthful banter, not really worthy of a response, I will also wait until you actually have to make a living on your own, or in fact pay a bill before I give your inexperienced opinions any credence.
- Superior Mind
- (not macbeth)
- +1,755|7119
Didn't Cuba do this and effectively eliminate AIDS in their country?
Unfortunately the world is overpopulated with Humans and this is her response, in part.
Unfortunately the world is overpopulated with Humans and this is her response, in part.
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link?Superior Mind wrote:
Didn't Cuba do this and effectively eliminate AIDS in their country?
So you're saying HIV's not preventable? LOL, ok. Wow.lowing wrote:
If HIV was preventable, I am pretty sure it would have been prevented, just like a cold, if it were preventable I am pretty sure people would opt to prevent it. Just a guess though. Anyway, you are generalizing by saying HIV is preventable and suggest that people that get it are at fault.Poseidon wrote:
Yup. It is. Just as colds are. But some people can't help getting colds either if they don't know their friend or whatever has it. But if the friend TELLS them, then it's preventable.lowing wrote:
No because you said "HIV is preventable", you are saying that people that get it did it to themselves. Now start back peddling and deny that this not what you meant.Nah...then we wouldn't have lowing's posts to laugh at.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
We should quarantine idiots.
your attacks are not working, I rarly react to teenagers who wanna act like they have a clue. I will dismiss your attacks as youthful banter, not really worthy of a response, I will also wait until you actually have to make a living on your own, or in fact pay a bill before I give your inexperienced opinions any credence.
hey, if youth means not being a nazi, i'll take it
elitism ftw, eh lowing?