Budget rig help

2008-04-03 05:35:46

#1

Aries_37: arrivederci frog; +368|6847|London

I'm building a cheap pc for my parents, need advice on a case, psu, cooling, cpu, ram, optical drives, HDs and motherboard.

So far I'm considering an e2200, 2gb ocz pc26400, ocz stealthextreme 500w, freezer 7 pro and an coolermaster elite 330. No idea if these are any good, never been so budget concious with my own pcs Comes to less than £150, and don't want to go over £250 total

However when it comes to motherboards i have no idea at all, was considering a Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G, but then came across the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L...as well as asus p5 and abit ip35 range....help plz?

2008-04-03 15:00:19

#2

Aries_37: arrivederci frog; +368|6847|London

Bump, ordered with a gigabyte p35 ds3 motherboard and crucial ballistix instead of ocz Have time to change the order about a bit though, any suggestions?

2008-04-03 15:04:17

#3

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6735|cuntshitlake

Looks good, OCZ is more than fine for ram, Gigabyte DS3 is leet budget mobo.

For HD, Samsung spinpoint. OD, just some SATA DVD-RW

PSU doesn't need to be that good if you use onboard graphics and will not overclock.. 350W should be just fine.

You do not really need a powerful cooler like that if you don't overclock, but then again it's not expensive and it's more silent than boxed stock cooler.

Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2008-04-04 06:10:58)

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2008-04-03 15:05:33

#4

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7115|Reykjavík, Iceland.

I wouldn't go for an aftermarket HSF for a low end CPU that isn't getting overclocked.

I assume you are going to use an onboard video card?

If so, go for a smaller PSU, would lower the cost more, 500w is way more than you need.

2008-04-03 15:06:40

#5

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6904

Intel Skulltrail MOBO

Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme CPU X2

8GB DDR4 Crucial RAM

28" Widescreen Samsung Monitor

Geforce 9800GX2 X2

CoolerMaster Cosmos S

1200 ThermalTake PSU

...

Wait what was your budget?

2008-04-03 15:17:42

#6

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7115|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Gooners wrote:
Intel Skulltrail MOBO

Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme CPU X2

8GB DDR4 Crucial RAM

28" Widescreen Samsung Monitor

Geforce 9800GX2 X2

CoolerMaster Cosmos S

1200 ThermalTake PSU

...

Wait what was your budget?

/facedesk

2008-04-03 16:02:03

#7

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6469|Winland

PBAsydney wrote:
Gooners wrote:
Intel Skulltrail MOBO

Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme CPU X2

8GB DDR4 Crucial RAM

28" Widescreen Samsung Monitor

Geforce 9800GX2 X2

CoolerMaster Cosmos S

1200 ThermalTake PSU

...

Wait what was your budget?
/facedesk

facepalm.jpg

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-04-03 16:04:27

#8

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6904

I snapped.

2008-04-03 16:10:14

#9

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,054|7044|PNW

Aries_37 wrote:
I'm building a cheap pc for my parents, need advice on a case, psu, cooling, cpu, ram, optical drives, HDs and motherboard.

So far I'm considering an e2200, 2gb ocz pc26400, ocz stealthextreme 500w, freezer 7 pro and an coolermaster elite 330. No idea if these are any good, never been so budget concious with my own pcs Comes to less than £150, and don't want to go over £250 total

However when it comes to motherboards i have no idea at all, was considering a Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G, but then came across the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L...as well as asus p5 and abit ip35 range....help plz?

The 9800GTX is only $330 USD.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814143129

Corsair has 2x2GB DDR2-800 kits for $90 each.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819115039

edit: oops, nevermind...parents.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-04-03 16:10:57)

2008-04-03 16:12:15

#10

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,054|7044|PNW

Acer Aspire AM5620-E5203A Core 2 Quad Q6600(2.40GHz) 4GB DDR2 750GB ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO Windows Vista Home Premium (English/French) - Retail
$750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6883103133

That's a pretty good deal right there. It'll never hiccup on surfing, e-mails, taxes or spreadsheets. It's more powerful than the $2000 rig I set up in 2004. I know it's over $250, but I had no problem convincing my budget-focused dad to pick up a similar (for its time; it's still bloody running 100% to this day) rig for $1000 way back when, so neither should you.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-04-03 16:17:53)

2008-04-03 16:51:33

#11

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7115|Reykjavík, Iceland.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Acer Aspire AM5620-E5203A Core 2 Quad Q6600(2.40GHz) 4GB DDR2 750GB ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO Windows Vista Home Premium (English/French) - Retail
$750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6883103133

That's a pretty good deal right there. It'll never hiccup on surfing, e-mails, taxes or spreadsheets. It's more powerful than the $2000 rig I set up in 2004. I know it's over $250, but I had no problem convincing my budget-focused dad to pick up a similar (for its time; it's still bloody running 100% to this day) rig for $1000 way back when, so neither should you.

....Quad core, 4GB RAM and a med-high end video card is a NO-NO-NO for a budget build for your parents.

Seriously.

2008-04-03 23:40:28

#12

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,054|7044|PNW

PBAsydney wrote:
....Quad core, 4GB RAM and a med-high end video card is a NO-NO-NO for a budget build for your parents.

Seriously.

At the same time, I've seen people recently spend more than that one single or dual-core rigs with 1 or 2GB RAM and onboard video.

Seriously.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-04-03 23:40:58)

2008-04-04 00:13:44

#13

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6596|New Haven, CT

PBAsydney wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Acer Aspire AM5620-E5203A Core 2 Quad Q6600(2.40GHz) 4GB DDR2 750GB ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO Windows Vista Home Premium (English/French) - Retail
$750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6883103133

That's a pretty good deal right there. It'll never hiccup on surfing, e-mails, taxes or spreadsheets. It's more powerful than the $2000 rig I set up in 2004. I know it's over $250, but I had no problem convincing my budget-focused dad to pick up a similar (for its time; it's still bloody running 100% to this day) rig for $1000 way back when, so neither should you.
....Quad core, 4GB RAM and a med-high end video card is a NO-NO-NO for a budget build for your parents.

Seriously.

Computers need to last longer than one year for some people. They could easily get 4-6 years out of that system for word processing, email, and websurfing.

2008-04-04 00:18:37

#14

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6402|North Tonawanda, NY

nukchebi0 wrote:
Computers need to last longer than one year for some people. They could easily get 4-6 years out of that system for word processing, email, and websurfing.

Seriously. When I build a computer, I keep using it for years. My last 2 computers have lasted me about 4 years each.

2008-04-04 00:44:00

#15

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6596|New Haven, CT

SenorToenails wrote:
nukchebi0 wrote:
Computers need to last longer than one year for some people. They could easily get 4-6 years out of that system for word processing, email, and websurfing.
Seriously. When I build a computer, I keep using it for years. My last 2 computers have lasted me about 4 years each.

I used one from 2000-2006. It still functions now (with a cleaning), perfectly for Word documents.

2008-04-04 00:55:04

#16

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6686|Finland

nukchebi0 wrote:
SenorToenails wrote:
nukchebi0 wrote:
Computers need to last longer than one year for some people. They could easily get 4-6 years out of that system for word processing, email, and websurfing.
Seriously. When I build a computer, I keep using it for years. My last 2 computers have lasted me about 4 years each.
I used one from 2000-2006. It still functions now (with a cleaning), perfectly for Word documents.

Even my OLD rig from 1997 is perfect for word...

3930K | H100i | RIVF | 16GB DDR3 | GTX 480 | AX750 | 800D | 512GB SSD | 3TB HDD | Xonar DX | W8

2008-04-04 00:55:15

#17

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6402|North Tonawanda, NY

nukchebi0 wrote:
I used one from 2000-2006. It still functions now (with a cleaning), perfectly for Word documents.

Until last October, my laptop was an Inspiron 7500 from September 1999. When it could not keep up with my MatLab codes, I decided it was time for a new one. I still use the damn thing, just not as often. That was one solid piece of hardware.

2008-04-04 01:38:41

#18

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6469|Winland

nukchebi0 wrote:
PBAsydney wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Acer Aspire AM5620-E5203A Core 2 Quad Q6600(2.40GHz) 4GB DDR2 750GB ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO Windows Vista Home Premium (English/French) - Retail
$750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6883103133

That's a pretty good deal right there. It'll never hiccup on surfing, e-mails, taxes or spreadsheets. It's more powerful than the $2000 rig I set up in 2004. I know it's over $250, but I had no problem convincing my budget-focused dad to pick up a similar (for its time; it's still bloody running 100% to this day) rig for $1000 way back when, so neither should you.
....Quad core, 4GB RAM and a med-high end video card is a NO-NO-NO for a budget build for your parents.

Seriously.
Computers need to last longer than one year for some people. They could easily get 4-6 years out of that system for word processing, email, and websurfing.

They could get the same from a signifigantly cheaper system. I mean, a quad core for word processing and web surfing? 4GB RAM?

An E2160 for $60, 2GB RAM for $30, 500GB HD and an X700 for $20 will do just fine. Fuck it, I use a P4 3GHz, 2GB RAM and a 7600GS for gaming, and it suits my needs perfectly. My mom uses my old laptop: CELERON 466MHz, 256MB RAM, 4MB ATI RAGE GRAPHICS CARD AND 4GB HD. It suits her perfectly. Some light web surfing and word processing.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-04-04 01:48:41

#19

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6596|New Haven, CT

I guess it depends on the level they use it. While my computer from 2000 works fine for word, it can't playback a Youtube video. If they are planning on doing any video playback with it, the quadcore will futureproof much more effectively than an E2160. I, mistakenly, thought that was implied with web surfing.

2008-04-04 02:04:10

#20

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6469|Winland

nukchebi0 wrote:
I guess it depends on the level they use it. While my computer from 2000 works fine for word, it can't playback a Youtube video. If they are planning on doing any video playback with it, the quadcore will futureproof much more effectively than an E2160. I, mistakenly, thought that was implied with web surfing.

Yes, but the web doesn't require a lot of power. If your old computer can't playback YouTube videos, well, then it's full of shitware, as my old lappy does that just fine. And any dual-core CPU will do more than fine for anything but Crysis and Supreme Commander.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-04-04 02:10:54

#21

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6402|North Tonawanda, NY

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Yes, but the web doesn't require a lot of power. If your old computer can't playback YouTube videos, well, then it's full of shitware, as my old lappy does that just fine. And any dual-core CPU will do more than fine for anything but Crysis and Supreme Commander.

While my old laptop could browse the web well enough, flash programs and other things that are relatively CPU or RAM intensive would slow it down pretty badly. It depends on what kind of computer experience you are used to. With that old laptop, I could browse the net and get frustrated at the slow speed or I could go to the other room and use a dual core desktop and browse with ease.

2008-04-04 04:55:14

#22

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6469|Winland

SenorToenails wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
Yes, but the web doesn't require a lot of power. If your old computer can't playback YouTube videos, well, then it's full of shitware, as my old lappy does that just fine. And any dual-core CPU will do more than fine for anything but Crysis and Supreme Commander.
While my old laptop could browse the web well enough, flash programs and other things that are relatively CPU or RAM intensive would slow it down pretty badly. It depends on what kind of computer experience you are used to. With that old laptop, I could browse the net and get frustrated at the slow speed or I could go to the other room and use a dual core desktop and browse with ease.

Yes. But an E2160 is more than enough to run flash animations properly. My lappy's Pentium M 1.6 runs every flash game that I've thrown at it flawlessly.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-04-04 06:15:50

#23

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6735|cuntshitlake

Any dual core and 2gb of ram are indeed fine for computers not used for gaming/hard multitasking for years ahead.

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2008-04-04 06:41:01

#24

']['error: Banned; +630|6916|The Netherlands

DeathUnlimited wrote:
Any dual core and 2gb of ram are indeed fine for computers not used for gaming/hard multitasking for years ahead.

2008-04-04 06:43:03

#25

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6469|Winland

']['error wrote:
DeathUnlimited wrote:
Any dual core and 2gb of ram are indeed fine for computers not used for gaming/hard multitasking for years ahead.

Exactly.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

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