BF2S Forums Iran Steps Up Uranium Programme

Mek-Izzle wrote:

One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. One man's offensive strike is another mans defensive, if you get what I mean. The Soviet Union thought Afghanistan Invasion was defensive, the U.S didn't. The U.S think Hiroshima was defensive, Japan didn't. It's all perspective.

I can go outside and kill a Bear saying he's a threat, that would be my view. But other people would say I was the aggressor, they'd have their arguments. Endless circles.

Braddock wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

Main Entry: 1de·fen·sive   
Pronunciation: \di-ˈfen(t)-siv, ˈdē-ˌ\
Function: adjective
Date: 14th century
1: serving to defend or protect <defensive fortifications>
2 a: <defensive behavior> b: of or relating to the attempt to keep an opponent from scoring in a game or contest <a player with good defensive skills>
3 a: valuable in defensive play <a defensive card in bridge> b: designed to keep an opponent from being the highest bidder <a defensive bid>

P.S. THE ATTACK WAS NOT A NAVAL ATTACK! It was an a bomb dropped by an airplane!!

I don't write the fucking examples that come with each noun steve, I could have doctored the quote to say 'air attack' but that's not the way I roll!

By the way your definition doesn't say anything about being allowed to drop nuclear bombs. Your definition might work if you had fired the nuclear bomb at an incoming fleet of fighter planes or at a warship on it's way to attack you. Even if you are using the logic that attack is the best form of defence, it's still an attack and therefore inherently offensive.

Btw I don't really bear any kind of grudge against the US for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japs started that war so fuck them but the dropping of a nuclear weapon cannot in my opinion be described as anything other than an offensive action.

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2008-04-08 08:22:39)

PureFodder wrote:

Iran are legally allowed to produce nuclear fuel for civillian use under the terms of the NPT which they have signed.

If anyone has any proof that they are actually making nuclear weapons then contact the UN. Remember that the Iranian nuclear program is actually an American program, started by the US.

CameronPoe wrote:

This is taken from the last IAEA report on Iranian nuclear activity:

The Agency has been able to continue to verify the non-diversion of declared nuclear material
in Iran. Iran has provided the Agency with access to declared nuclear material and has provided the
required nuclear material accountancy reports in connection with declared nuclear material and
activities. Iran has also responded to questions and provided clarifications and amplifications on the
issues raised in the context of the work plan, with the exception of the alleged studies. Iran has
provided access to individuals in response to the Agency’s requests. Although direct access has not
been provided to individuals said to be associated with the alleged studies, responses have been
provided in writing to some of the Agency’s questions.

The Agency has been able to conclude that answers provided by Iran, in accordance with the
work plan, are consistent with its findings — in the case of the polonium-210 experiments and the
Gchine mine — or are not inconsistent with its findings — in the case of the contamination at the
technical university and the procurement activities of the former Head of PHRC. Therefore, the
Agency considers those questions no longer outstanding at this stage. However, the Agency continues,
in accordance with its procedures and practices, to seek corroboration of its findings and to verify
these issues as part of its verification of the completeness of Iran’s declarations.

The Agency has recently received from Iran additional information similar to that which Iran
had previously provided pursuant to the Additional Protocol, as well as updated design information.
As a result, the Agency’s knowledge about Iran’s current declared nuclear programme has become
clearer.

A lot of other elements in the report detail what appear to be questions inserted by the west regarding
issues/suspicions for which no evidence exists to nail Iran with. The IAEA are also not deliberatley not
providing enough information on the suspicions so that Iran can actually fully demonstrate their clean.
Looks like they're being set up for a fall.

CameronPoe wrote:

loubot wrote:

Israel will bomb it if they suspect it is making weapon grade Pu

Not that simple. The consequences of failure could be immense. It could place the entire Arabic world behind Iran, who currently only enjoy limited support throughout the Arab world. I'm quite sure Iran will be as prepared as possible for an attack, unlike Iraq back in the 80s.

The_Mac wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

loubot wrote:

Israel will bomb it if they suspect it is making weapon grade Pu

Not that simple. The consequences of failure could be immense. It could place the entire Arabic world behind Iran, who currently only enjoy limited support throughout the Arab world. I'm quite sure Iran will be as prepared as possible for an attack, unlike Iraq back in the 80s.

Limited support? Bull shit, all Islamis care about is a religious war, and they'll sure as hell get behind anybody who wants to get teh Jewz0rz

dayarath wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

dayarath wrote:

Demands were to temporarily halt the enrichment of uranium for a clear investigation. There are still some parts the IAEA has been denied acces to, as stated the situation became 'clearer' but Iran is not cooperating like they should.

Instead, they just start building 3000 extra turbines to enrich at a speed double that of which they had previously, exactly the opposite. I don't remember exactly but I think they haven't given alot of clarification yet regarding the import of nuclear wares from china. Of which some substances used for nuclear weapons.

Uranium enrichment is not prohibited under international law. Their stance is that they are standing up for their rights under international law which the west is attempting to stamp all over.

The use and production of nuclear power is in the field of international law. Now seeing as they need their uranium to generate nuclear power, it comes really close to it. It's the most important resource.

What they're doing with this uranium concerns many.

dayarath wrote:

The use and production of nuclear power is in the field of international law. Now seeing as they need their uranium to generate nuclear power, it comes really close to it. It's the most important resource.

What they're doing with this uranium concerns many.