SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6607|North Tonawanda, NY

SEREMAKER wrote:

I'm pretty sure NY does not allow conceal carry


and for a starter pistol, that all depends on what your comfortable with



what guns have you shoot before
I believe New York State allows concealed carry, but the City really doesn't.  You have to have one hell of a reason to justify needing it, though.
David.P
Banned
+649|6751
East New York.

EDIT: A person i know is a cop there, And he says that nearly everyone is armed. But they wont shoot at cops so another Sean Bell doesn't happen.

Last edited by David.P (2008-04-08 20:55:52)

Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7014|Long Island, New York

SEREMAKER wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

I also keep this in my pocket Beretta Bobcat .25

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta/21_Bobcat.jpg
looks like a derringer
looks can be deceiving ..... 8 shot .25 and not bad little pistol, can easily be tucked into your pocket
Doesn't matter if it's a full size gun or not...police are fucking stupid. They'd never know. My mom's ex boyfriend (who's a nassau county cop) got into a Billy Joel concert with a gun in the back of his pants. Nobody even knew.
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|7045|Mountains of NC

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also :

Nine states have "may issue" laws requiring the applicant to demonstrate specific "need." In practice, this is often a mechanism to deny licensing.

These "may issue" states range from "shall issue" in practice, such as Alabama and Connecticut; to "at the whim of local officials", such as New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and California, (where rural officials liberally issue permits but urban officials seldom do) to "almost non-issue" in states such as Maryland; to "never-issue" Hawaii where, though state law allows for the issuance of permits, officials choose not to issue them under any circumstances

Last edited by SEREMAKER (2008-04-08 20:59:54)

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Reciprocity
Member
+721|7057|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Poseidon wrote:

but yeah, why? to feel safer. in this day and age (and after many personal experiences leading to this), i'd feel a lot safer if I had one.
Part of carrying is understanding that there are very specific situations in which even drawing your weapon is called for.  Learning how to avoid bad situations is as important as becoming proficient with your weapon.  I know many people who have carried for decades and have never had a 'personal experience' necessitating the draw or use of their concealed carry.  Keep in mind that if anyone, for any reason sees your weapon at an inapropriate time,  you can be charged with brandishing and your CCW will be revoked forever.

Keeping that in mind, I feels it is any responsible citizen's right to carry a loaded firearm.
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|7045|Mountains of NC

Reciprocity wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

but yeah, why? to feel safer. in this day and age (and after many personal experiences leading to this), i'd feel a lot safer if I had one.
Part of carrying is understanding that there are very specific situations in which even drawing your weapon is called for.  Learning how to avoid bad situations is as important as becoming proficient with your weapon.  I know many people who have carried for decades and have never had a 'personal experience' necessitating the draw or use of their concealed carry.  Keep in mind that if anyone, for any reason sees your weapon at an inapropriate time,  you can be charged with brandishing and your CCW will be revoked forever.

Keeping that in mind, I feels it is any responsible citizen's right to carry a loaded firearm.
" brandishing " goes differently state to state

in NC you can brandish your weapon but you can not AIM it unless you intend to use it ...... but theres a flip side to that by brandishing your weapon you have given the other person the mean to defend himself (if he has a CWP)

also in NC we have an " open carry law " ie you strap a weapon to the outside of your clothing in plain view of everyone and enter a public place and you will not get charged/arrested for it (unless they have a no weapons sign up)
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7014|Long Island, New York

Reciprocity wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

but yeah, why? to feel safer. in this day and age (and after many personal experiences leading to this), i'd feel a lot safer if I had one.
Part of carrying is understanding that there are very specific situations in which even drawing your weapon is called for.  Learning how to avoid bad situations is as important as becoming proficient with your weapon.  I know many people who have carried for decades and have never had a 'personal experience' necessitating the draw or use of their concealed carry.  Keep in mind that if anyone, for any reason sees your weapon at an inapropriate time,  you can be charged with brandishing and your CCW will be revoked forever.

Keeping that in mind, I feels it is any responsible citizen's right to carry a loaded firearm.
Trust me - I know all too well when it's appropriate. I'd never do it unless I felt my life was truly in danger.

And thanks SERE, Justice and everyone else. Karma to those who didn't get any yet - i r can haz run out.
Reciprocity
Member
+721|7057|the dank(super) side of Oregon

SEREMAKER wrote:

also in NC we have an " open carry law " ie you strap a weapon to the outside of your clothing in plain view of everyone and enter a public place and you will not get charged/arrested for it (unless they have a no weapons sign up)
can you open carry a loaded weapon in incorporated places in NC?  around here (Southern Oregon) most cops don't mind seeing and open carry as long as it is perceptively unloaded within city limits.  Out in the country you can walk around with a cocked n locked M4 slinged on your shoulder and they'll only ask how well it shoots.

Last edited by Reciprocity (2008-04-08 21:31:54)

SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|7045|Mountains of NC

Reciprocity wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

also in NC we have an " open carry law " ie you strap a weapon to the outside of your clothing in plain view of everyone and enter a public place and you will not get charged/arrested for it (unless they have a no weapons sign up)
can you open carry a loaded weapon in incorporated places in NC?  around here (Southern Oregon) most cops don't mind seeing and open carry as long as it is perceptively unloaded within city limits.  Out in the country you can walk around with a cocked n locked M4 slinged on your shoulder and they'll only ask how well it shoots.
yep .......... as long there are no signs or the owner doesn't mind, then you can freely enter a establishment with a loaded weapon
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Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6922|The Land of Scott Walker

SEREMAKER wrote:

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also :

Nine states have "may issue" laws requiring the applicant to demonstrate specific "need." In practice, this is often a mechanism to deny licensing.

These "may issue" states range from "shall issue" in practice, such as Alabama and Connecticut; to "at the whim of local officials", such as New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and California, (where rural officials liberally issue permits but urban officials seldom do) to "almost non-issue" in states such as Maryland; to "never-issue" Hawaii where, though state law allows for the issuance of permits, officials choose not to issue them under any circumstances
Unfortunately I live in WI and I swear the government is from a different planet.  Stupid governor has vetoed conceal carry twice.
Bradt3hleader
Care [ ] - Don't care [x]
+121|6413

Poseidon wrote:

And no, not those guns they fire at horseraces.

When I'm 18, I'm wondering:

1) Can I get a license to conceal? Is it possible?

2) What's the best place to get a gun from?

3) What's a good starter gun?

4) What accessories, if any, should I get?

inb4parker



Thanks in advance
1: Who cares

2: Black Market/MAFIA/gangstaAas

3: I'm thinking M249 SAW, M16A4, M124 minigun, M2 .50 or a RPG-7

4: Probably an M203, or maybe some tear gas, I heard C4 dropped 5$
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7233|Scotland

Wow. The world has gone to shit. Kids feeling safer with handguns and wanting to conceal them.

This world wont last much longer.

I live in knife, murder and rape capital of Europe yet I am still alive without a gun or knife handy.

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