FallenMorgan
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http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_co … e-dav.html

The following exchange between atheist activist Rob Sherman of Buffalo Grove and Ill. Rep. Monique Davis (D-Chicago) took place Wednesday afternoon in the General Assembly as Sherman testified before the House State Government Administration Committee.

I know from experience that many of you will side with Davis (update -- apparently I was wrong! ), but I ask you to consider what the outcry would have been if a lawmaker had  launched a similar attack on the beliefs of a religious person.

Davis: I don’t know what you have against God, but some of us don’t have much against him.  We look forward to him and his blessings. And it’s really a tragedy -- it’s tragic --  when a person who is engaged in anything related to God, they want to fight.  They want to fight prayer in school. 

I don’t see you (Sherman) fighting guns in school. You know?

I’m trying to understand the philosophy that you want to spread in the state of Illinois. This is the Land of Lincoln. This is the Land of Lincoln  where people believe in God, where people believe in protecting their children.… What you have to spew and spread is extremely dangerous, it’s dangerous--

Sherman: What’s dangerous, ma’am?

Davis: It’s dangerous to the progression of this state. And it’s dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists! Now you will go to court to fight kids to have the opportunity to be quiet for a minute. But damn if you’ll go to  [court] to fight for them to keep guns out of their hands. I am fed up! Get out of that seat!

Sherman: Thank you for sharing your perspective with me, and I’m sure that if this matter does go to court---

Davis: You have no right to be here! We believe in something. You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon.

Sherman didn't budge, continued his testimony related to Gov. Rod Blagojevich's oddly misdirected $1 million grant intended for Pilgrim Baptist Church, (story) and later told me he "felt like Rosa Parks."

Here is the audio, courtesy of the Illinois Information Service.
Not all Atheists are a bunch of pushy fuck-faces.  Many Atheist are relatively cool-headed while Conservatives blast off.  I'm writing a blog about it.
GunSlinger OIF II
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no ones gonna read it
Mutantbear
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

no ones gonna read it
lul
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FallenMorgan
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

no ones gonna read it
I already know you won't.
usmarine
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blogs fail
S.Lythberg
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you should go outside more
HurricaИe
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Every group has its jerks. I consider myself atheist but I don't shove that down people's throats. If someone wants to worship God or Allah or Yahweh, go ahead. Don't shove it down my throat, don't harm others with your beliefs, and you can worship Longcat for all I care.
SenorToenails
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There are extremists in all areas of belief.  Some of them get into public service.  This one incident proves nothing.
FallenMorgan
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Islam even has moderates and liberals.  It's just largely mis-used and mis-understood.  The Quaran actually says:

"permission to fight is given only to those who have been oppressed... who have been driven from their homes for saying,'God is our Lord'" (22:39)

Xenophobia sucks.
GunSlinger OIF II
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rape sucks
racism sucks
murder sucks
cancer sucks
earthquakes suck
usmarine
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FallenMorgan wrote:

Islam even has moderates and liberals.  It's just largely mis-used and mis-understood.  The Quaran actually says:

"permission to fight is given only to those who have been oppressed... who have been driven from their homes for saying,'God is our Lord'" (22:39)

Xenophobia sucks.
oh jesus just shut up
HurricaИe
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

rape sucks
racism sucks
murder sucks
cancer sucks
earthquakes suck
life sure is a big whore
GunSlinger OIF II
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hurri sucks
HurricaИe
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

hurri sucks
i resemble that statement
FallenMorgan
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Why does my blog suck?
HurricaИe
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Where'd you get that idea?
usmarine
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FallenMorgan wrote:

Why does my blog suck?
all blogs suck
S.Lythberg
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FallenMorgan wrote:

Why does my blog suck?
because honestly, nobody cares what you think, you're just a kid, an inconsequential name in the internet with an opinion, and we have more important things to do.

truth hurts pal, nothing against you or your views, that's just life.
Turquoise
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Ah yes...  more "serious talk"...
GunSlinger OIF II
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because there is nothing unique or original in the way you think and people dont want to read about someone who thinks the world revolves around their opinions.
unnamednewbie13
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Davis said that atheists believe in destroying. Well, that could just turn about 99% of all boys who hear that against God.

/lol

But for Sherman to say he felt like Rosa Parks seems a bit of an exaggeration. His 'people' aren't getting chased down by dogs, firehosed, and stuffed in the back of the bus.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-04-08 21:08:06)

S.Lythberg
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Turquoise wrote:

Ah yes...  more "serious talk"...
no u, this r srs thread
blademaster
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

no ones gonna read it
agree
ATG
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fallenmorgen wrote:

Polygamist men are selfish. They horde women to continue their family name. Honestly who gives a fuck about family names? I ranted about all that stuff last time, so I’ll just go on. Some of you may compare this to Waco, but it’s different. All the Branch Davidians did was collect weapons to “defend themselves” in the coming “apocalypse” or something like that. They didn’t rape 14 year old girls and force them to give their “husbands” 20 kids. I dislike all religious nuts, but I can tolerate the ones who don’t try to force their beliefs on people or hurt people.
Accusations of rape are why the majority of people are content with the way the Davidians were treated.

Polygamist men that I know work harder than anybody I have seen; they have to, some have 30 kids.

Also, many don't know that often times the second and third wives approach the man via her father, who asks the man " have you considered my daughter for marriage? "

If he says yes, the girl goes to the man and gives her testimony about how God wants her to be with him. The first wife must approve the following wives, has veto power.
Turquoise
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Traditions like polygamy are often a reminder that, in many cases, humans are little more than glorified monkeys.

Last edited by Turquoise (2008-04-08 21:20:44)

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