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2008-04-11 19:40:00

sinnik: Member; +16|6423|@defamations pad taking notes.

Thought of this the othher day after ATG's thread on what happened to the guy in jail and what happened after.. (human nature in action..)

If you had the power to try and controll some one's life how would you go about it..

Me - Label some one as a possiblie peado - but make sure you assert you have complete controll over them (just remember playining chinese whispers when you where a kid - the more people involved then the more distorted it gets) - soon as people hear about it the knee jerk reaction is f*ckem they deserve what they get...

you have complete controll to do what ever you like to them then and no one is gonna say shit cos they are the lowest of the low.. problem solved you have control. If things get out of controll then keep the chinese whispers going so then you keep the controll.. you can do what ever you want and you still have that initial lie to fall back on if things get hectic..

The only thing is that to keep things going then you cant admit the catalyst is a lie - kinda like rolling a stone off a snowy slope - do you stop it while you can - or let it carry on and let it go and see what happens in the knowlge that you can never controll the situation again. After a while you don't have a choice, it's got too big to stop it so what do you do now..

The only thing is how much do you hate them and how far are you prepared to go..

General philisophical thread all answers welcome - even have petrol and matches to give out if thats the way you want to go.

2008-04-11 19:52:00

DK_Vision: Self-loathing narcissist.; +41|6795|QUT, GP.

Is abortion illegal in the state of your birth?

2008-04-11 19:52:09

Major.League.Infidel: Make Love and War; +303|6903|Communist Republic of CA, USA

Creepiest (serious) thread on bf2s ever.

2008-04-11 19:54:09

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6555|North Tonawanda, NY

Character assassination is not cool.

2008-04-11 19:55:03

Deadmonkiefart: Floccinaucinihilipilificator; +177|7131

What the hell is wrong with you?

2008-04-11 20:00:57

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7191|Cambridge (UK)

You truly are a 'member'.

2008-04-11 20:01:25

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6963|Long Island, New York

I feel unsafe now

2008-04-11 20:11:25

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6954|Global Command

On topic;

it seems relevant to point out that they haven't found the polygamist girl who made the call.
it seems that all somebody had to do to bust up that FLDS sect was to make unsubstantiated accusations.

2008-04-11 20:18:56

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6830|North Carolina

Sinnik (who should be named Cynic) makes a lot of good points here.

In fact, he's basically explained exactly how politics really work during campaigns. Make up a bad enough story about someone that is still believable, and it's worth more than actual dirt found on your opponent. The Swift Boat bullshit of the last election is a perfect example of this, and it's fitting that McCain was connected to that propaganda machine.

But yeah, framing someone as a pedo is definitely the easiest and most insidious way to ruin an enemy without any violence involved.

2008-04-11 20:40:45

sinnik: Member; +16|6423|@defamations pad taking notes.

sorry I'm drunk and maybe I'm posting innapropriately.. If you 'd like the thread gone no problem, but isn't the point of DST the proposal of ideas - if it's unsettling then no need to post - ignore or flag it.

I just wanted to throwing something into the ring to see what the reaction is. I know it makes no sense to you and hopefully it never will but to be for armed is to be prepared

2008-04-11 20:43:58

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6830|North Carolina

I personally think it's an appropriate topic. It's kind of one of those things that many people realize but don't like to talk about. I generally prefer those kinds of topics.

2008-04-11 20:45:10

sinnik: Member; +16|6423|@defamations pad taking notes.

Turquoise wrote:
Sinnik (who should be named Cynic) makes a lot of good points here.

I hear you there it's just atm sinnik makes so much more sense to me and probably will untill I come back as a pheonix (thats probably taken to!!)

2008-04-11 20:46:18

sinnik: Member; +16|6423|@defamations pad taking notes.

ROFL just read my op and now i'm taking the posts to heart ... N00b (me) ;P

2008-04-11 20:53:14

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6555|North Tonawanda, NY

Turquoise wrote:
I personally think it's an appropriate topic. It's kind of one of those things that many people realize but don't like to talk about. I generally prefer those kinds of topics.

Discussing how to ruin a person's life and reputation seems like it would be no more appropriate than discussing how to best maim a person. In both cases, the subject is based purely on malice.

2008-04-11 20:57:34

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|7100|Canberra, AUS

As long as the links between you and the thing is covered (i.e. protection against defamation lawsuits, which could turn nasty), then you should be a-OK.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2008-04-11 20:58:53

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6943|Montucky

Why do your eyes water when you pull out a hair in your nose.

that is what I thought of after reading the original post.

I need to lay off the Bud Light.

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2008-04-11 21:06:05

sinnik: Member; +16|6423|@defamations pad taking notes.

stick with bud original and you'll be ok - untill the hangover kiscks in tomorrow

seriously though think 'punkd' but on a bigger scale - where would you draw the line and still be able to sleep at night?

2008-04-11 21:08:51

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6830|North Carolina

SenorToenails wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
I personally think it's an appropriate topic. It's kind of one of those things that many people realize but don't like to talk about. I generally prefer those kinds of topics.
Discussing how to ruin a person's life and reputation seems like it would be no more appropriate than discussing how to best maim a person. In both cases, the subject is based purely on malice.

One could say the same for war.

I often find that one person's "noble intentions" are nothing more than someone else's malice or greed....

2008-04-11 21:13:16

imortal: Member; +240|7090|Austin, TX

Turquoise wrote:
SenorToenails wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
I personally think it's an appropriate topic. It's kind of one of those things that many people realize but don't like to talk about. I generally prefer those kinds of topics.
Discussing how to ruin a person's life and reputation seems like it would be no more appropriate than discussing how to best maim a person. In both cases, the subject is based purely on malice.
One could say the same for war.

I often find that one person's "noble intentions" are nothing more than someone else's malice or greed....

...except that those of us sitting and discussing here are talking hypothetically and idealistically about war and its causes, effects, justifications and what-not. Just one or two of us on here are not likely to radically change the course of a war or cause one.

When you are on here talking about fucking someone over, maiming them, or discussing stalking or murder techniques... well, those are much more personal activities. Those can be undertaken by just one or two people from this forum. Would you be as forgiving of this topic if it was about how to best suprise a female co-ed, and the most productive methods of raping her without being caught? (yes, I went to the extreme.)

2008-04-11 21:14:26

HurricaИe: Banned; +877|6386|Washington DC

Send threatening letters (bomb threats, massacres) to the FBI, CIA, NSA, Mayor's office, Congress etc in some guy's name. Take cues from letters by Ted Kasynczski and crew. They'll have fun in Gitmo.

2008-04-11 21:15:13

sinnik: Member; +16|6423|@defamations pad taking notes.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you?

Plz don't take this personally but this is my responce to your post..

It's not o.k to make the OP but its ok to make jokes about porn and discuss the point about what age appropriate to view naked women in a thread about child abusers...

k if thats how it goes..

2008-04-11 21:15:16

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6555|North Tonawanda, NY

Turquoise wrote:
One could say the same for war.

I often find that one person's "noble intentions" are nothing more than someone else's malice or greed....

To discuss the methods of how to single out a single person and ruin their life is akin to discussing war strategy and tactics? Maybe, but I find the former to be detestable. I'm not picking a fight, just discussing.

If this were a discussion on the morality of such a thing, I would be on board immediately. Not the methods.

imortal wrote:
...except that those of us sitting and discussing here are talking hypothetically and idealistically about war and its causes, effects, justifications and what-not. Just one or two of us on here are not likely to radically change the course of a war or cause one.

When you are on here talking about fucking someone over, maiming them, or discussing stalking or murder techniques... well, those are much more personal activities. Those can be undertaken by just one or two people from this forum. Would you be as forgiving of this topic if it was about how to best suprise a female co-ed, and the most productive methods of raping her without being caught? (yes, I went to the extreme.)

^ What he said sums up how I feel. ^

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2008-04-11 21:20:49

sinnik: Member; +16|6423|@defamations pad taking notes.

I was generalising when I came up with the OP but you've hit the nail on the head the op was dealing with a singularity and you are talking about it on a broader scale - I reckon It's the same thing just more complicted..

Just look at the roll that propaganda has played in protracted wars since time began.. (ie not a skirmish but something that has gone on for years!)

2008-04-11 21:22:25

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6830|North Carolina

imortal wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
SenorToenails wrote:

Discussing how to ruin a person's life and reputation seems like it would be no more appropriate than discussing how to best maim a person. In both cases, the subject is based purely on malice.
One could say the same for war.

I often find that one person's "noble intentions" are nothing more than someone else's malice or greed....
...except that those of us sitting and discussing here are talking hypothetically and idealistically about war and its causes, effects, justifications and what-not. Just one or two of us on here are not likely to radically change the course of a war or cause one.

When you are on here talking about fucking someone over, maiming them, or discussing stalking or murder techniques... well, those are much more personal activities. Those can be undertaken by just one or two people from this forum. Would you be as forgiving of this topic if it was about how to best suprise a female co-ed, and the most productive methods of raping her without being caught? (yes, I went to the extreme.)

Point taken....

2008-04-11 21:42:16

sinnik: Member; +16|6423|@defamations pad taking notes.

SenorToenails wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
One could say the same for war.

I often find that one person's "noble intentions" are nothing more than someone else's malice or greed....
To discuss the methods of how to single out a single person and ruin their life is akin to discussing war strategy and tactics? Maybe, but I find the former to be detestable. I'm not picking a fight, just discussing.

If this were a discussion on the morality of such a thing, I would be on board immediately. Not the methods.

imortal wrote:
...except that those of us sitting and discussing here are talking hypothetically and idealistically about war and its causes, effects, justifications and what-not. Just one or two of us on here are not likely to radically change the course of a war or cause one.

When you are on here talking about fucking someone over, maiming them, or discussing stalking or murder techniques... well, those are much more personal activities. Those can be undertaken by just one or two people from this forum. Would you be as forgiving of this topic if it was about how to best suprise a female co-ed, and the most productive methods of raping her without being caught? (yes, I went to the extreme.)
^ What he said sums up how I feel. ^

If you read some of my other posts and I think you'll see where I stand on the subject of rape/abuse of any kind.

The discussion of the morality though comes hand in haned with what is being done, and as such it needs to be discussed on a theoretical bases given the scenario it's applied to..

kinda what I meant to say in the op..

I guess what I mean to say is I'm trying to put an idea out there as devils advocate and see where it goes - don't take it too literally and just discuss.

Dunno guess i'm just trying to put a compass out on the forum and see which way it ends up pointing

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