Need a non-gaming computer.

2008-04-13 07:27:12

#1

Funky_Finny: Banned; +456|6613|Carnoustie, Scotland

K my mums computer is dead. It's so old. 700Mhz P3, 8MB GFX card, 198MB RAM with a 3GB hard-drive. Awsm, eh?

So she needs a new computer. All she really needs it for it viewing photos from her camera, and internet access.

Max budget of around £250-300. ($500-600).

I was thinking this, but might be a bit ott with the dual core.. Thoughts?

https://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/Funky_Finny/comp.jpg

If it's coming from the internet, preferably UK based please.

Either pre-built, or build yourself, don't mind.

Annnnnnnnnd go.

EDIT: Cock it, forgot a gfx card.

https://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/Funky_Finny/gfxcard.jpg

Cheap and nasty, doesn't need much.

Last edited by Funky_Finny (2008-04-13 07:30:11)

2008-04-13 07:43:57

#2

']['error: Banned; +630|7124|The Netherlands

You might want to add an cardreader frontpanel

edit: and why xp PRO? normal xp will do fine too

Last edited by ']['error (2008-04-13 07:45:00)

2008-04-13 07:47:45

#3

Funky_Finny: Banned; +456|6613|Carnoustie, Scotland

']['error wrote:
You might want to add an cardreader frontpanel

edit: and why xp PRO? normal xp will do fine too

Only XP there, apart from 64.
Recommend a card-reader?

2008-04-13 07:47:54

#4

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6715|United Kingdom

Why 2 different DVD drives? Do with something simple like you have, liked Terror's Card reader suggestion, good idea.

2008-04-13 07:53:00

#5

Funky_Finny: Banned; +456|6613|Carnoustie, Scotland

Mitch92uK wrote:
Why 2 different DVD drives? Do with something simple like you have, liked Terror's Card reader suggestion, good idea.

Yeah, I didn't mean to put two readers on lol. Clicked the button twice.

Links to card readers?

2008-04-13 07:56:13

#6

tobz102: Member; +11|6419|UK

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Componen … ctId=30452

just somthing like that

2008-04-13 07:59:34

#7

']['error: Banned; +630|7124|The Netherlands

Funky_Finny wrote:
Mitch92uK wrote:
Why 2 different DVD drives? Do with something simple like you have, liked Terror's Card reader suggestion, good idea.
Yeah, I didn't mean to put two readers on lol. Clicked the button twice.

Links to card readers?

I don't know any good UK based hardware shops, they have these on overclockers. Although the only internal one is from lian-li and is 20 pounds, what maybe is a bit expensive.

edit: tobz has found one for much cheaper

Last edited by ']['error (2008-04-13 08:00:32)

2008-04-13 08:14:27

#8

Funky_Finny: Banned; +456|6613|Carnoustie, Scotland

Awesome, now would you change anything about the origional setup?

2008-04-13 08:16:11

#9

tobz102: Member; +11|6419|UK

i think its pretty fine tbh. Remember keyboard/mouse etc etc lolz

2008-04-13 08:17:03

#10

HurricaИe: Banned; +877|6441|Washington DC

https://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7379/ibm5100yp6.jpg

2008-04-13 08:35:29

#11

Funky_Finny: Banned; +456|6613|Carnoustie, Scotland

tobz102 wrote:
i think its pretty fine tbh. Remember keyboard/mouse etc etc lolz

Nah, already got all that.

2008-04-13 08:41:02

#12

']['error: Banned; +630|7124|The Netherlands

Funky_Finny wrote:
Awesome, now would you change anything about the origional setup?

I've always been more of an intel man myself, but I think amd is fine for a setup like this.

off-topic: why are PC parts so expensive in the UK

2008-04-13 08:44:35

#13

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6944|cuntshitlake

MSI motherboard = nonono

Let's see what I can assemble:

E2180: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … mp;subcat= £51.69 inc VAT
GA-P31-DS3L http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … ubcat=1015 £46.99 inc VAT
OcUK 2GB 800MHz http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … subcat=813 £28.19 inc VAT
WD Caviar SE16 320GB http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … mp;subcat= £50.51 inc VAT
CM Elite 330 Midi Tower http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … mp;subcat= £29.36 inc VAT
Antec 350W PSU: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … mp;subcat= £27.01 inc VAT
OcUK 8400GS: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … mp;subcat= £24.66 inc VAT

£258,41

EDIT: (I can help you *shiver* purchase your OS)

EDIT2: This is actually overkill, but would let you do even some gaming.

Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2008-04-13 08:52:21)

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2008-04-13 08:50:48

#14

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6934|The Twilight Zone

9800GX2 is the way to go. Your mum will be grateful, trust me.

Just give her your PC and buy yourself a new one.

https://www.shrani.si/f/3H/7h/45GTw71U/untitled-1.png

2008-04-13 09:24:41

#15

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6677|Winland

DeathUnlimited wrote:
MSI motherboard = nonono

Let's see what I can assemble:

E2180: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … mp;subcat= £51.69 inc VAT
GA-P31-DS3L http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … ubcat=1015 £46.99 inc VAT
OcUK 2GB 800MHz http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … subcat=813 £28.19 inc VAT
WD Caviar SE16 320GB http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … mp;subcat= £50.51 inc VAT
CM Elite 330 Midi Tower http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … mp;subcat= £29.36 inc VAT
Antec 350W PSU: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … mp;subcat= £27.01 inc VAT
OcUK 8400GS: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … mp;subcat= £24.66 inc VAT

£258,41

EDIT: (I can help you *shiver* purchase your OS)

EDIT2: This is actually overkill, but would let you do even some gaming.

Looking good, DU, but I'd get an E1200(http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … subcat=793 ), as this is just the cheapest possible POS possible. If she's used to a 700MHz P3, even a 2GHz P4 would be an incredible improvement.

Also, I've got an XP Pro key you can get, Finny.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-04-13 10:22:50

#16

Funky_Finny: Banned; +456|6613|Carnoustie, Scotland

Thanks guys, but absolutely no gaming needed lol. My mums a technophobe.

Anyway, I'll get back to you when she gets back to me.

2008-04-13 10:32:25

#17

SpIk3y: Minister of Silly Walks; +67|6619|New Jersey

For a low budget, low performance machine, an AMD X2 CPU is the way to go. They're cheap as dirt and still pack a punch. For example, I found a 4200+ X2 which operates at 2.2GHz for only $60 on Newegg. I would go for a solid AMD X2 CPU over a cheap, bottom-of-the-line, POS Intel CPU any day.

Last edited by SpIk3y (2008-04-13 10:33:10)

2008-04-13 10:42:07

#18

Aries_37: arrivederci frog; +368|7055|London

What you want is more or less exactly what I built for my parents less than a week ago, and pretty much what DU just posted.

Buy everything from www.ebuyer.com as that is the closest to newegg we can get in the UK.

Prices from ebuyer:
e2160 - £40
p35ds3- £50
2gb ram - £20 (£30 if you want gaming grade ram)
coolermaster 330 with crappy sub 500w psu- £43
samsung spinpoint 500gb- £50
7200GS- £20

total: ~£230 with free shipping

2008-04-13 11:24:20

#19

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6677|Winland

SpIk3y wrote:
For a low budget, low performance machine, an AMD X2 CPU is the way to go. They're cheap as dirt and still pack a punch. For example, I found a 4200+ X2 which operates at 2.2GHz for only $60 on Newegg. I would go for a solid AMD X2 CPU over a cheap, bottom-of-the-line, POS Intel CPU any day.

There's no need for it. As long as it works, it's gonna be enough. This mother is used to a sub-gigaherts Pentium 3. A 4200+ is more overkill than the E1200 already is. If they'd still be manufactured, I'd get a P4. maybe check some second-hand stuff.

EDIT: Made a new one on eBuyer. They seem to be better than overclockers at low-end stuff.

Motherboard - £28.99 - An ASUS mATX board with integrated video card.
CPU - £22.22 - An Intel Celeron 420, single-core, 1.6GHz, 512kB L2.
RAM - £23.59 - 2GB Kingston PC6400.
Case - £29.99 - Cheap mATX case with 400w PSU.
HDD - 24.36 - 80GB SATA drive with 8MB cache. More than enough if she's made it on 3GB so far.
DVD burner - £14.99 - Basic DVD burner.

Total, including VAT: £144.14

Now now, before all you gamers out there start screaming "OMG DATS A SHIT MACHINE OMFG", you've gotta see what she's been using until now. If she's been using a 700MHz P3 with 192MB RAM and 3GB HDD, this is a humongous step up. She doesn't nee more than an integrated graphics card and an 1.6GHz single-core CPU. It's still gonna be five times faster than her old one. She doesn't need a faster machine, as long as it works.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-04-13 11:53:26)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-04-13 12:37:26

#20

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6944|cuntshitlake

Freezer7Pro wrote:
SpIk3y wrote:
For a low budget, low performance machine, an AMD X2 CPU is the way to go. They're cheap as dirt and still pack a punch. For example, I found a 4200+ X2 which operates at 2.2GHz for only $60 on Newegg. I would go for a solid AMD X2 CPU over a cheap, bottom-of-the-line, POS Intel CPU any day.
There's no need for it. As long as it works, it's gonna be enough. This mother is used to a sub-gigaherts Pentium 3. A 4200+ is more overkill than the E1200 already is. If they'd still be manufactured, I'd get a P4. maybe check some second-hand stuff.

EDIT: Made a new one on eBuyer. They seem to be better than overclockers at low-end stuff.

Motherboard - £28.99 - An ASUS mATX board with integrated video card.
CPU - £22.22 - An Intel Celeron 420, single-core, 1.6GHz, 512kB L2.
RAM - £23.59 - 2GB Kingston PC6400.
Case - £29.99 - Cheap mATX case with 400w PSU.
HDD - 24.36 - 80GB SATA drive with 8MB cache. More than enough if she's made it on 3GB so far.
DVD burner - £14.99 - Basic DVD burner.

Total, including VAT: £144.14

Now now, before all you gamers out there start screaming "OMG DATS A SHIT MACHINE OMFG", you've gotta see what she's been using until now. If she's been using a 700MHz P3 with 192MB RAM and 3GB HDD, this is a humongous step up. She doesn't nee more than an integrated graphics card and an 1.6GHz single-core CPU. It's still gonna be five times faster than her old one. She doesn't need a faster machine, as long as it works.

I'd still get a dualcore though..

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2008-04-13 13:26:01

#21

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6677|Winland

DeathUnlimited wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
SpIk3y wrote:
For a low budget, low performance machine, an AMD X2 CPU is the way to go. They're cheap as dirt and still pack a punch. For example, I found a 4200+ X2 which operates at 2.2GHz for only $60 on Newegg. I would go for a solid AMD X2 CPU over a cheap, bottom-of-the-line, POS Intel CPU any day.
There's no need for it. As long as it works, it's gonna be enough. This mother is used to a sub-gigaherts Pentium 3. A 4200+ is more overkill than the E1200 already is. If they'd still be manufactured, I'd get a P4. maybe check some second-hand stuff.

EDIT: Made a new one on eBuyer. They seem to be better than overclockers at low-end stuff.

Motherboard - £28.99 - An ASUS mATX board with integrated video card.
CPU - £22.22 - An Intel Celeron 420, single-core, 1.6GHz, 512kB L2.
RAM - £23.59 - 2GB Kingston PC6400.
Case - £29.99 - Cheap mATX case with 400w PSU.
HDD - 24.36 - 80GB SATA drive with 8MB cache. More than enough if she's made it on 3GB so far.
DVD burner - £14.99 - Basic DVD burner.

Total, including VAT: £144.14

Now now, before all you gamers out there start screaming "OMG DATS A SHIT MACHINE OMFG", you've gotta see what she's been using until now. If she's been using a 700MHz P3 with 192MB RAM and 3GB HDD, this is a humongous step up. She doesn't nee more than an integrated graphics card and an 1.6GHz single-core CPU. It's still gonna be five times faster than her old one. She doesn't need a faster machine, as long as it works.
I'd still get a dualcore though..

Well, the Celeron 420 is about as fast as my P4 on stock. A great deal faster than what's in Finny's computer. If Finny gets on with gaming on a slower CPU, I'd say that it's enough for his mom. An E1200 isn't a great deal pricier - Only £12.20, so it wouldn't hurt getting one. Just a matter of preference, really; 30% more performance, or 30% less price

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-04-13 14:55:04

#22

SpIk3y: Minister of Silly Walks; +67|6619|New Jersey

How can you call a $60 CPU overkill?! The price to performance ratio is simply phenomenal. It would only be $16 more than the Celeron you picked out, but perform astromically better.

Last edited by SpIk3y (2008-04-13 14:57:00)

2008-04-13 16:11:53

#23

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6677|Winland

SpIk3y wrote:
How can you call a $60 CPU overkill?! The price to performance ratio is simply phenomenal. It would only be $16 more than the Celeron you picked out, but perform astromically better.

"Astronomically better"? No. It's about 30% faster. It's basically two of those cores in one die. If you're referring to the E1200, that is.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-04-13 16:12:55)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-04-13 16:18:18

#24

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7246|Cambridge (UK)

Freezer's suggested setup is plenty more than enough for what she needs.

Oh, except it doesn't have a card reader - would defo recommend a card reader.

What style mem-card(s) does her camera(s) take?

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-04-13 16:19:55)

2008-04-13 17:27:22

#25

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6677|Winland

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Freezer's suggested setup is plenty more than enough for what she needs.

Oh, except it doesn't have a card reader - would defo recommend a card reader.

What style mem-card(s) does her camera(s) take?

FINALLY someone who gets the purpose of this thread!

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

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Funky_Finny wrote:

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DeathUnlimited wrote:

SpIk3y wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

SpIk3y wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

SpIk3y wrote:

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