Is Obama a worse public speaker than Bush?!

2008-04-13 10:44:21

#1

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6891|'Murka

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24082427

THE COMMENTS

"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama, an Illinois senator, said.

"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," he said.

SOURCE

At least when Bush says something stupid, he's just having trouble speaking. When Obama says something stupid (happening a lot more lately), he's quite eloquent and verbose in his stupidity.

This dude will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet.

Last edited by FEOS (2008-04-13 10:47:23)

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― Albert Einstein
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2008-04-13 10:45:46

#2

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6980|so randum

No.

My Grandads a better public speaker than bush, and he's been in the ground for two years.

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2008-04-13 10:45:49

#3

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|7036

Saw that. A little bit of political naivety there. He's still a better speaker than Bush though. President Bush reminds me of President Tug Benson in Hot Shots. He's quite embarrassing to watch.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-04-13 10:46:42)

2008-04-13 10:48:12

#4

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6891|'Murka

What I'm getting at is that Obama said exactly what he meant to say...which is a far cry from the Bushisms out there.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-04-13 10:54:55

#5

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6770|Éire

CameronPoe wrote:
Saw that. A little bit of political naivety there. He's still a better speaker than Bush though. President Bush reminds me of President Tug Benson in Hot Shots. He's quite embarrassing to watch.

2008-04-13 11:01:34

#6

aj0404: It'll just be our little secret; +298|6830|Iowa...

i wasn't aware that Pennsylvania was in the Midwest.

2008-04-13 11:02:14

#7

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|7036

FEOS wrote:
What I'm getting at is that Obama said exactly what he meant to say...which is a far cry from the Bushisms out there.

It's a shame that it is a political liability to call out what is a genuine problem with the working class. They have a lamentably simplistic view of politics, taken as a general whole.

2008-04-13 11:06:17

#8

Hunter/Jumper: Member; +117|6835

I think he sounds good, dosn't come clean though.

2008-04-13 11:12:26

#9

GorillaTicTacs: Member; +231|6854|Kyiv, Ukraine

He made the mistake of making a speech within a larger context.

In today's media circus world its all about simple flashy sound bites, and he slipped up on this one. He'll learn.

Meanwhile, McCain keeps getting a free pass on just about every thing to come out of his mouth, and we won't even talk about Hillary and Bill 2.0's ranting.

2008-04-13 11:17:24

#10

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6770|Éire

Steel wrote:
its an OBAMANATION!

What a strange and ostensibly pointless video clip.

2008-04-13 11:54:13

#11

Hunter/Jumper: Member; +117|6835

GorillaTicTacs wrote:
In today's media circus world its all about simple flashy sound bites,

Meanwhile, McCain keeps getting a free pass on just about every thing to come out of his mouth, and we won't even talk about Hillary and Bill 2.0's ranting.

speaking for yourself

2008-04-13 14:28:53

#12

Diesel_dyk: Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears; +178|6474|Truthistan

BUSH 10 years ago Before and after Video

If you want to see something really scary check this video out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4Bhmm22xo

Bush was a brilliant speaker 10 years ago when he was ruinning for governor of Texas, but since 9/11 he's cracked, on crack or on some serious medication for mental disease. Now Bush reminds me of Ozzy Osborne when he speaks.

2008-04-13 14:35:11

#13

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6770|Éire

Diesel_dyk wrote:
BUSH 10 years ago Before and after Video

If you want to see something really scary check this video out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4Bhmm22xo

Bush was a brilliant speaker 10 years ago when he was ruinning for governor of Texas, but since 9/11 he's cracked, on crack or on some serious medication for mental disease. Now Bush reminds me of Ozzy Osborne when he speaks.

Bizarre, maybe he was having a good day that day ten years ago!

2008-04-13 14:36:05

#14

Diesel_dyk: Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears; +178|6474|Truthistan

Bush Speaking 10 Years Ago Video

Last edited by Diesel_dyk (2008-04-13 14:49:28)

2008-04-13 14:39:56

#15

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7081|132 and Bush

It will be tough for anyone to top Bush.

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2008-04-13 14:41:09

#16

The_Mac: Member; +96|6705

FatherTed wrote:
No.

My Grandads a better public speaker than bush, and he's been in the ground for two years.

I don't really detect any humor in that.

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2008-04-13 14:46:51

#17

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6770|Éire

The_Mac wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
No.

My Grandads a better public speaker than bush, and he's been in the ground for two years.
I don't really detect any humor in that.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb28 … cphail.jpg

I don't really detect any humor in this picture...Look, I can be a douche too!

2008-04-13 14:50:03

#18

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7238|Argentina

Some chimps are better speakers than Bush, so no.

2008-04-13 15:00:49

#19

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6804|New Haven, CT

FEOS wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24082427

THE COMMENTS

"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama, an Illinois senator, said.

"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," he said.
SOURCE

At least when Bush says something stupid, he's just having trouble speaking. When Obama says something stupid (happening a lot more lately), he's quite eloquent and verbose in his stupidity.

This dude will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet.

Public speaking skills are not derived from the factual accuracy of your words.

2008-04-13 15:51:20

#20

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6885|North Carolina

FEOS wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24082427

THE COMMENTS

"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama, an Illinois senator, said.

"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," he said.
SOURCE

At least when Bush says something stupid, he's just having trouble speaking. When Obama says something stupid (happening a lot more lately), he's quite eloquent and verbose in his stupidity.

This dude will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet.

Politically, it was a bad move.

However, it's also true.

I may actually vote for Obama because of this quote though. That takes some balls to say something like that.

2008-04-13 15:55:24

#21

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7081|132 and Bush

I thought people only voted for Obama because of his speaking skills?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106435/Gallu … 50-41.aspx

Gallup Poll Daily tracking for April 10-12 shows Barack Obama continuing to hold a solid lead over Hillary Clinton in national Democratic voters' support for the presidential nomination, 50% to 41%.

The results of the general election trial heats are the same as in previous days, with Obama ahead of McCain 46% to 43% and Clinton up on McCain 46% to 45%. Though both results are within the poll's margin of error, the fact that the Democrats' advantages have held up for several days suggests a high probability that they actually hold a lead in the underlying population of registered voters

Let's see what happens on the 22nd.

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2008-04-13 15:57:00

#22

FallenMorgan: Member; +53|6394|Glendale, CA

"Border relations between Canada and Mexico have never been better"

"Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?"

"It isn't pollution that's ruining the environment; it's all the impurities in the air and water that's doing it."

"We must route out terrorism wherever it exists to save the world from freedom."

2008-04-13 16:13:49

#23

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7101|London, England

Like gunslinger said, the people that will be offended by this, were never going to ever vote for him anyway. So it doesn't really matter. Man, I already miss gs...

2008-04-13 16:14:38

#24

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6891|'Murka

Turquoise wrote:
However, it's also true.

You think it's true that the only reason people "cling" to silly little things like their first and second amendment rights is that they're "bitter"?

Seriously?

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-04-13 16:14:54

#25

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6479|...

Mek-Izzle wrote:
Like gunslinger said, the people that will be offended by this, were never going to ever vote for him anyway. So it doesn't really matter. Man, I already miss gs...

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