New York tried to make it a felony to sell M rated games to minors.ATG wrote:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20188502,00.html
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What the hell are politicians thinking?
I've always loved his novels. It's nice to see him not supporting this bill. For all the crazy shit he's come up with in his novels and short stories, I've always felt he was level headed and down to earth, plus, he writes really really well.
He totally hit the nail on the head with his stance. This is not so far off from his medium, writing, and at this day in age (in my opinion) should start to be considered an art form. Some of the games out there have such unique visual style and innovative gameplay, that they really aren't that far off. I agree with a rating system, and it's fine if it's a store's policy to not sell to minors, but making it illegal just takes it a bit far.
Let the parents do the parenting, not a bill.
He totally hit the nail on the head with his stance. This is not so far off from his medium, writing, and at this day in age (in my opinion) should start to be considered an art form. Some of the games out there have such unique visual style and innovative gameplay, that they really aren't that far off. I agree with a rating system, and it's fine if it's a store's policy to not sell to minors, but making it illegal just takes it a bit far.
Let the parents do the parenting, not a bill.
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I've always loved his novels. It's nice to see him not supporting this bill. For all the crazy shit he's come up with in his novels and short stories, I've always felt he was level headed and down to earth, plus, he writes really really well.
He totally hit the nail on the head with his stance. This is not so far off from his medium, writing, and at this day in age (in my opinion) should start to be considered an art form. Some of the games out there have such unique visual style and innovative gameplay, that they really aren't that far off. I agree with a rating system, and it's fine if it's a store's policy to not sell to minors, but making it illegal just takes it a bit far.
Let the parents do the parenting, not a bill.
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Er...what's so bad about that? The game's rated M. Which means under 17's are not supposed to fucking play the game. What's the point in having a ratings system if you're not going to stick to it, or not get punished if you don't abide to it?SenorToenails wrote:
New York tried to make it a felony to sell M rated games to minors.ATG wrote:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20188502,00.html
Pertains to video games and liberty.
What the hell are politicians thinking?
I think the problem is that they're trying to classify it as a felony with a prison sentence, rather than a misdemeanor.Mek-Izzle wrote:
Er...what's so bad about that? The game's rated M. Which means under 17's are not supposed to fucking play the game. What's the point in having a ratings system if you're not going to stick to it, or not get punished if you don't abide to it?SenorToenails wrote:
New York tried to make it a felony to sell M rated games to minors.ATG wrote:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20188502,00.html
Pertains to video games and liberty.
What the hell are politicians thinking?
It's an industry regulated rating system, just like the movie ratings. The difference is, the MPAA can kick your ass if you get caught consistently letting minors into R-rated movies, but the ESRB has about as much clout as a chihuahua. Anyway, there is no crime associated with letting a 16 year old into an R-rated movie, so why should there be a felony for letting that same kid buy an M rated video game?Mek-Izzle wrote:
Er...what's so bad about that? The game's rated M. Which means under 17's are not supposed to fucking play the game. What's the point in having a ratings system if you're not going to stick to it, or not get punished if you don't abide to it?
The policies should be set by the stores and the industry, not the government.
Oh, I didn't know it was like that over there. Over here, when something is given a rating, then you either gotta prove it or you're not getting in/getting the game (if you look young)SenorToenails wrote:
It's an industry regulated rating system, just like the movie ratings. The difference is, the MPAA can kick your ass if you get caught consistently letting minors into R-rated movies, but the ESRB has about as much clout as a chihuahua. Anyway, there is no crime associated with letting a 16 year old into an R-rated movie, so why should there be a felony for letting that same kid buy an M rated video game?Mek-Izzle wrote:
Er...what's so bad about that? The game's rated M. Which means under 17's are not supposed to fucking play the game. What's the point in having a ratings system if you're not going to stick to it, or not get punished if you don't abide to it?
The policies should be set by the stores and the industry, not the government.
If you guys don't even bother having a proper set of ratings and regulations, then there's no point in them at all, just a waste of money. No wonder you hear so many kids online in various games
Well, the rating system is supposed to aid parents. The ESRB tries, but they have no real power to do anything (as far as I know). The MPAA self-regulates the movie ratings, and I believe the theaters are obligated to enforce the rules since the MPAA can actually assert itself.Mek-Izzle wrote:
Oh, I didn't know it was like that over there. Over here, when something is given a rating, then you either gotta prove it or you're not getting in/getting the game (if you look young)
If you guys don't even bother having a proper set of ratings and regulations, then there's no point in them at all, just a waste of money. No wonder you hear so many kids online in various games
The rating system for video games is there, but just like the V-chips, few people use it.
/waits for ATG to tie this into legalizing marijuana somehow...
You can go play your early childhood games while I continue to play rated M games since I was 11.Mek-Izzle wrote:
Er...what's so bad about that? The game's rated M. Which means under 17's are not supposed to fucking play the game. What's the point in having a ratings system if you're not going to stick to it, or not get punished if you don't abide to it?SenorToenails wrote:
New York tried to make it a felony to sell M rated games to minors.ATG wrote:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20188502,00.html
Pertains to video games and liberty.
What the hell are politicians thinking?
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Exactly, the immature gamers ruin games anyways.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Er...what's so bad about that? The game's rated M. Which means under 17's are not supposed to fucking play the game. What's the point in having a ratings system if you're not going to stick to it, or not get punished if you don't abide to it?SenorToenails wrote:
New York tried to make it a felony to sell M rated games to minors.ATG wrote:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20188502,00.html
Pertains to video games and liberty.
What the hell are politicians thinking?
I used to babysit some kids who were (i think) 5, 8, and 11, and all they would do all day was play GTA. They were snobby kids, always picking fights at school, and they were hell to babysit.
I don't think M should specifically be 17, well, some should, but i think there are plenty of M games that could be bought at 14 or 15 and be ok.
You hear them because of irresponsible parents, or bad parenting. I've played M games since I was around 12. I'm pretty fine psychologically, only the occasional urge to drive around running over old ladies. I usually don't talk much in games, certainly didn't when I was little.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Oh, I didn't know it was like that over there. Over here, when something is given a rating, then you either gotta prove it or you're not getting in/getting the game (if you look young)SenorToenails wrote:
It's an industry regulated rating system, just like the movie ratings. The difference is, the MPAA can kick your ass if you get caught consistently letting minors into R-rated movies, but the ESRB has about as much clout as a chihuahua. Anyway, there is no crime associated with letting a 16 year old into an R-rated movie, so why should there be a felony for letting that same kid buy an M rated video game?Mek-Izzle wrote:
Er...what's so bad about that? The game's rated M. Which means under 17's are not supposed to fucking play the game. What's the point in having a ratings system if you're not going to stick to it, or not get punished if you don't abide to it?
The policies should be set by the stores and the industry, not the government.
If you guys don't even bother having a proper set of ratings and regulations, then there's no point in them at all, just a waste of money. No wonder you hear so many kids online in various games
Jeeze Mek stop being such a soccer mom. If GTA scars your kid mentally, maybe you should've done a better job of parenting him and teaching him that a game != real life... because I'm no Albert Einstein but I sure as hell know the difference.