Braddock
Agitator
+916|6770|Éire
Who Would Win An Arm Wrestle Between A Liberal & A Conservative?...

https://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2294585/2/istockphoto_2294585_arm_wrestle.jpg

From a lot of the sigs on show in this forum I get the impression that a lot of conservative-minded people are of the opinion that all 'libruls' are weak, limp-wristed, vegetarian, weakling girly-men...unlike all conservatives who are big, burly, meat eating, gun firing, macho men. How did this stereotype ever come about or is it just a stereotype that conservatives try to reinforce as a defence against their own insecurities regarding their body-image?

Discuss.
GorillaTicTacs
Member
+231|6854|Kyiv, Ukraine
Dude, just read Greenwald's new book on the subject...

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

Here's a much better article on the same subject...sorry it contains so many words and stuff.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/13 … 360/494929

Last edited by GorillaTicTacs (2008-04-16 09:46:15)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7238|Argentina
The Liberal of course.  He has one extra finger.  The conservative would be busy giving a middle finger.

This reminds me of a mail I received some time ago with the following link.

How to Win a Fight with a Conservative:
• Detect right-wing lies, propaganda, and general BS
• Fend off ideological undesirables, including pesky family members
• Avoid the 7 Habits of Highly Ineffective Partisans
• Mock members of the Conservative Hall of Shame
• Make kick-ass arguments on issues ranging from global warming to Iraq

How to Win a Fight with a Liberal:
• Obey the 10 Commandments of Partisan Warfare
• Ridicule residents of the Liberal Hall of Shame
• Insult liberals in 27,000 possible ways
• Make kick-ass arguments on issues ranging from taxes to terrorism

Last edited by sergeriver (2008-04-16 09:37:40)

FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6891|'Murka

Braddock wrote:

How did this stereotype ever come about?
By being true.

How can one stereotype another's physique by their rhetorical skills?

Last edited by FEOS (2008-04-16 09:33:39)

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― Albert Einstein

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ghettoperson
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+1,943|7129

I enjoy eating meat.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6971|Northern California
One stereotype that's true, is that liberals are truly smarter!  They go to and graduate from college and have actual degrees, moreso than conservatives.

The question now is, brains or brawn?  I'm not exactly teenie or wimpy, but I'll take brains anyday.    The problem with real liberals is they are too brainy or think too much to a fault..and it's disgusting; aka "Berkeley" and all the subaru driving lesbians and m3 driving fags with their bumpers littered with stickers that make even moderates cringe, their non-stop gabbing about their LGBTBBQ rights and how police are the plague of the universe, and how much the fire department with their flag adorned trucks personally insult them...yadda yadda.  But they are smarter people.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6891|'Murka

I'd say liberals often think they're smarter...because they went to school for 12 years to get that PhD in aboriginal sociology that is SO applicable to real world problems.

And if we want to talk about degrees, let's talk about useful degrees and success in the workforce...
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7081|132 and Bush

IRONCHEF wrote:

One stereotype that's true, is that liberals are truly smarter!  They go to and graduate from college and have actual degrees, moreso than conservatives.

The question now is, brains or brawn?  I'm not exactly teenie or wimpy, but I'll take brains anyday.    The problem with real liberals is they are too brainy or think too much to a fault..and it's disgusting; aka "Berkeley" and all the subaru driving lesbians and m3 driving fags with their bumpers littered with stickers that make even moderates cringe, their non-stop gabbing about their LGBTBBQ rights and how police are the plague of the universe, and how much the fire department with their flag adorned trucks personally insult them...yadda yadda.  But they are smarter people.
I'd say the smart ones are the people who don't commit themselves to the rigid structured labels of politics. No reasonable person is one thing on all issues.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6971|Northern California

FEOS wrote:

I'd say liberals often think they're smarter...because they went to school for 12 years to get that PhD in aboriginal sociology that is SO applicable to real world problems.

And if we want to talk about degrees, let's talk about useful degrees and success in the workforce...
Dude, it's a survey.  "blue states" do in fact have more college graduates.  if you believe that makes you dumber, then that's your call.   even if college degrees don't matter, I've lived in big city populations and rural populations and the folksy "life experience" of you degenerate inbreeders is seriously no match to the high paced, multi-tasking geniuses that make big cities run..in regards to the 'street smarts' you're alluding too as you suggest all liberals get their PhDs in oceanology or other such usless things.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6891|'Murka

IRONCHEF wrote:

FEOS wrote:

I'd say liberals often think they're smarter...because they went to school for 12 years to get that PhD in aboriginal sociology that is SO applicable to real world problems.

And if we want to talk about degrees, let's talk about useful degrees and success in the workforce...
Dude, it's a survey.  "blue states" do in fact have more college graduates.  if you believe that makes you dumber, then that's your call.   even if college degrees don't matter, I've lived in big city populations and rural populations and the folksy "life experience" of you degenerate inbreeders is seriously no match to the high paced, multi-tasking geniuses that make big cities run..in regards to the 'street smarts' you're alluding too as you suggest all liberals get their PhDs in oceanology or other such usless things.
Eh?

You're the one who said liberals are smarter based on the number that have degrees, not me.

I'm assuming the rest of what you wrote is a joke of some sort...
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6998|USA
the conservative would win because the liberal would be too busy bitching about how it wasn't fair.

the liberal would win because the conservative would be too busy bitching about how it wasn't fair.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6770|Éire

IRONCHEF wrote:

FEOS wrote:

I'd say liberals often think they're smarter...because they went to school for 12 years to get that PhD in aboriginal sociology that is SO applicable to real world problems.

And if we want to talk about degrees, let's talk about useful degrees and success in the workforce...
Dude, it's a survey.  "blue states" do in fact have more college graduates.  if you believe that makes you dumber, then that's your call.   even if college degrees don't matter, I've lived in big city populations and rural populations and the folksy "life experience" of you degenerate inbreeders is seriously no match to the high paced, multi-tasking geniuses that make big cities run..in regards to the 'street smarts' you're alluding too as you suggest all liberals get their PhDs in oceanology or other such usless things.
I made a reference to a college project on bias in the media about a week ago and usmarine immediately snapped back at me with "typical liberal college professors"...the right definitely does seem to have somewhat of a chip on its shoulder about their poor representation amongst the US academia!

I'd personally rather a doctor of Oceanography than a pig farmer running my country.
GorillaTicTacs
Member
+231|6854|Kyiv, Ukraine

FEOS wrote:

I'd say liberals often think they're smarter...because they went to school for 12 years to get that PhD in aboriginal sociology that is SO applicable to real world problems.

And if we want to talk about degrees, let's talk about useful degrees and success in the workforce...
Point blank, liberals make more money than conservatives.  How would you define "success in the workforce"?
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6971|Northern California
Great!  Nice fargin thread..now we get to see   a n n e   c o u l t e r's repugnant face in the ads..and now   n e w t's.  talk about triggering ye 'ole gag reflex!
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7081|132 and Bush

CoronadoSEAL wrote:

the conservative would win because the liberal would be too busy bitching about how it wasn't fair.

the liberal would win because the conservative would be too busy bitching about how it wasn't fair.
The Liberals would declare defeat before the contest was over. The Conservatives would hire contractors to come in and do the job for them.

(jokes) I hope no one is actually taking this thread serious.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6891|'Murka

GorillaTicTacs wrote:

FEOS wrote:

I'd say liberals often think they're smarter...because they went to school for 12 years to get that PhD in aboriginal sociology that is SO applicable to real world problems.

And if we want to talk about degrees, let's talk about useful degrees and success in the workforce...
Point blank, liberals make more money than conservatives.  How would you define "success in the workforce"?
Source? How do you arrive at that claim?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6971|Northern California

Kmarion wrote:

CoronadoSEAL wrote:

the conservative would win because the liberal would be too busy bitching about how it wasn't fair.

the liberal would win because the conservative would be too busy bitching about how it wasn't fair.
The Liberals would declare defeat before the contest was over. The Conservatives would hire contractors to come in and do the job for them.

(jokes) I hope no one is actually taking this thread serious.
YER Such an a-hole!  I'm so reporting you to...to...the other mod!!
GorillaTicTacs
Member
+231|6854|Kyiv, Ukraine

FEOS wrote:

GorillaTicTacs wrote:

FEOS wrote:

I'd say liberals often think they're smarter...because they went to school for 12 years to get that PhD in aboriginal sociology that is SO applicable to real world problems.

And if we want to talk about degrees, let's talk about useful degrees and success in the workforce...
Point blank, liberals make more money than conservatives.  How would you define "success in the workforce"?
Source? How do you arrive at that claim?
http://digg.com/politics/Conservatives_ … as_a_whole

This same article is posted around everywhere, that's where I heard it before.  I'm looking in every nook and cranny for the facts and figures, and I can't find any.  I'm thinking now this was just another cuntservative self-masturbatory propoganda piece.  I should know better than to believe this stuff.

http://gss.norc.org/

The data is in there somewhere, but I couldn't be arsed to go get it.  If Bill Gates is a liberal, he just blew the curve anyways.

Last edited by GorillaTicTacs (2008-04-16 10:53:18)

IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6971|Northern California

FEOS wrote:

GorillaTicTacs wrote:

FEOS wrote:

I'd say liberals often think they're smarter...because they went to school for 12 years to get that PhD in aboriginal sociology that is SO applicable to real world problems.

And if we want to talk about degrees, let's talk about useful degrees and success in the workforce...
Point blank, liberals make more money than conservatives.  How would you define "success in the workforce"?
Source? How do you arrive at that claim?
Look at a map of blue states vs. red states.  Show me where capitals of red states are financial hubs of the country or world.  Also, would a source matter?  Or would you just explain it away?  And why didn't you dispute my claim of liberals being more educated?  Surely my claim is more radical sounding than his.

Btw Feos, are you currently residing among a population of people we're claiming as being "less educated" or "less financially sound?"  If so, my apologies..wasn't trying to finger anyone here..just regurgitating some facts i've learned over the  years perusing some lib sites.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7081|132 and Bush

IRONCHEF wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

CoronadoSEAL wrote:

the conservative would win because the liberal would be too busy bitching about how it wasn't fair.

the liberal would win because the conservative would be too busy bitching about how it wasn't fair.
The Liberals would declare defeat before the contest was over. The Conservatives would hire contractors to come in and do the job for them.

(jokes) I hope no one is actually taking this thread serious.
YER Such an a-hole!  I'm so reporting you to...to...the other mod!!
lol.. you actually did.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6891|'Murka

IRONCHEF wrote:

FEOS wrote:

GorillaTicTacs wrote:


Point blank, liberals make more money than conservatives.  How would you define "success in the workforce"?
Source? How do you arrive at that claim?
Look at a map of blue states vs. red states.  Show me where capitals of red states are financial hubs of the country or world.  Also, would a source matter?  Or would you just explain it away?  And why didn't you dispute my claim of liberals being more educated?  Surely my claim is more radical sounding than his.
So you're equating the political leanings of the majority of the population of a given area to the education level and political leanings of the most well-off in that area?

IRONCHEF wrote:

Btw Feos, are you currently residing among a population of people we're claiming as being "less educated" or "less financially sound?"  If so, my apologies..wasn't trying to finger anyone here..just regurgitating some facts i've learned over the  years perusing some lib sites.
No. It doesn't offend me at all--as I've said in other posts, I just have a problem with lazy logic.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6999|Πάϊ
Has anyone ever seen a gay conservative?



btw this myth or whatever you call it is clearly an American thing
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6891|'Murka

oug wrote:

Has anyone ever seen a gay conservative?



btw this myth or whatever you call it is clearly an American thing
There's actually an organization called Gay Republicans (or something similar).

Don't confuse conservative with neocon or evangelical.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7018|Long Island, New York
Conservatives just like to spew the word "liberal" when either 1) they don't know the full information on a topic 2) they've run out of things to say, or 3) they're losing an argument.

I'm neither a liberal or a republican (moderate independent ftw), and I can count how many times I've been called a liberal. Yeah, I'm such a liberal, supporting the death penalty and all.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6891|'Murka

Poseidon wrote:

Conservatives just like to spew the word "liberal" when either 1) they don't know the full information on a topic 2) they've run out of things to say, or 3) they're losing an argument.
irony ftw
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― Albert Einstein

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