Ollie
Formerly known as Larkin
+215|6460|Halifax, West Yorkshire
Here in Britain we have a lot of trouble with gangs of young teenagers (read: chavs) vandalising property, being abusive, and in some cases kicking the living shit out of people, literally. My question is: is this a problem in America? I know you have some of the biggest gangs in the world over there (bloods and the crips) but I'm mainly asking about the younger kids/teenagers involved in gang related violence.

It's a regular Clockwork Orange over here, except the people doing the ultra-violence aren't half as smart as Alex.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6606|North Tonawanda, NY
Assholes are everywhere.  I can answer for my area -- no, we don't have roving bands of kids beating people up.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6922|Chicago, IL
yes, we have an entire generation of delinquent, idiotic, and futureless dick heads wandering our streets.
TC.Troy
Let the rough side drag
+111|7049
In my particular area, gang and gang related activity are almost nil.
But I'm in a town in the mountains of Tennessee, in a town of about 30,000 people, so consider that as well.
Ollie
Formerly known as Larkin
+215|6460|Halifax, West Yorkshire
Can you point me in the direction of some news reports of incidents like I mentioned in OP?

Cheers.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6606|North Tonawanda, NY

Ollie wrote:

Can you point me in the direction of some news reports of incidents like I mentioned in OP?

Cheers.
http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/story/307239.html
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6922|Chicago, IL
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7121

SenorToenails wrote:

Assholes are everywhere.  I can answer for my area -- no, we don't have roving bands of kids beating people up.
hahaha SO TRUE assholes are everywhere no matter where u live also you dont have to be in a gang to be a asshole u just have regular dick heads everywhere
Ollie
Formerly known as Larkin
+215|6460|Halifax, West Yorkshire

SenorToenails wrote:

Ollie wrote:

Can you point me in the direction of some news reports of incidents like I mentioned in OP?

Cheers.
http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/story/307239.html
Thanks guys, +1 for both of you.
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6955|Somewhere else

There are no Chavs really here.  We have delinquent punks, but nothing like the Chav scurge you guys have.  As for gangs, kids in gangs only commit gang related crimes, turf wars, petty theft, and don't really get involved in ridiculous, Worth nothing crimes.

I have been reading about the crimes Chavs commit, and it is really bizzare to me.  I remember when I was younger, late 80's early 90's, you you acted like a punk you got handled by the public, as long as it was within reason, they didn't get in trouble.

Now, you lay a finger on a kid, you are fucked.  That is the reasons Chavs exist,  they can act like they want, until the cops CATCH them doing something red handed.  Before, if some kid fucked up, an adult would thump him.  Not anymore.
Ollie
Formerly known as Larkin
+215|6460|Halifax, West Yorkshire

blademaster wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Assholes are everywhere.  I can answer for my area -- no, we don't have roving bands of kids beating people up.
hahaha SO TRUE assholes are everywhere no matter where u live also you dont have to be in a gang to be a asshole u just have regular dick heads everywhere
This is true but the assholes around my area seem to need a gang of 10+ around them before they have the balls to beat up some poor innocent who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6606|North Tonawanda, NY
For non-violent jackassery, there is always this gem:

http://www.13wham.com/mostpopular/story … 76d20d7c20

The boulder they refer to was ~3 feet wide.
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6994|USA
no, our kids use guns to vent their anger
(2:42)

Ollie
Formerly known as Larkin
+215|6460|Halifax, West Yorkshire

RoosterCantrell wrote:

There are no Chavs really here.  We have delinquent punks, but nothing like the Chav scurge you guys have.  As for gangs, kids in gangs only commit gang related crimes, turf wars, petty theft, and don't really get involved in ridiculous, Worth nothing crimes.

I have been reading about the crimes Chavs commit, and it is really bizzare to me.  I remember when I was younger, late 80's early 90's, you you acted like a punk you got handled by the public, as long as it was within reason, they didn't get in trouble.

Now, you lay a finger on a kid, you are fucked.  That is the reasons Chavs exist,  they can act like they want, until the cops CATCH them doing something red handed.  Before, if some kid fucked up, an adult would thump him.  Not anymore.
The problem is, the public have been mollycoddled into believeing if they stand up to these wankers they are gonna be stucking their food out of a straw for the rest of their lives. I'm sure most of this pandemic is just media hype.

I've experienced chav-related violence; been chased almost beaten up etc, with friends and alone but things like that have been going on since the dawn of civilisation. My dad talks about the shit the people he knew used to do on a friday night when they were younger, and let me tell you it wasn't playing tiddlywinks.

Also a factor I think, is that these idiots get drunk on the streets and thenwith little or no inhibitions, procede to hunt for a victim.
avman633
Member
+116|6840
I don't think there are kids that just roam around the streets kicking the living shit out of people. I do think that there are kids that vandalize and stuff but nothing like from what I've learned the chavs do.
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6955|Somewhere else

@Ollie, media sensationalism probably.

@Avman,  Yeah, for the most part, kids in the states, at thier standard worst are just bastard little vandalists and for-the-lulz lawn ornament thieves.

I think another problem is, adults just aren't intimidating anymore.  Yuppie metrosexual men, don't scare me.

Now I'm no badass, I don't like to fight, and never do.  But I wouldn't allow some chav losers mess with me.  Granted, against a large group, i'd be in trouble.  But I am a big guy. 260 pounds, 6' 5" covered in tattoos and multiple surgery scars, I am not very friendly looking. 

My point is though, I could see it almost tempting to mess with dorky looking weak adults, it gives a cetain feeling of power to a kid, to intimidate and take down adults.

Last edited by RoosterCantrell (2008-04-17 12:54:06)

too_money2007
Member
+145|6784|Keller, Tx
Two people were arrested and their child taken away with them, because they got into a bad physical fight. What were they fighting about? Which gang their newborn was going to be apart of. Both parents were from rival gangs and went at it, or something, when they tried to decide in which gang the kid would grow up.

Gang members are trash. They deserve to be killed by other members and deserve nothing but spit in their faces. Too bad there isn't a gas that kills gang memebers, and only gang members. I won't go off on a rant, but I really really hate gang members and their ignorant superiority complexes.

Last edited by too_money2007 (2008-04-17 13:18:41)

Mitch
16 more years
+877|7001|South Florida

Ollie wrote:

Here in Britain we have a lot of trouble with gangs of young teenagers (read: chavs) vandalising property, being abusive, and in some cases kicking the living shit out of people, literally. My question is: is this a problem in America? I know you have some of the biggest gangs in the world over there (bloods and the crips) but I'm mainly asking about the younger kids/teenagers involved in gang related violence.

It's a regular Clockwork Orange over here, except the people doing the ultra-violence aren't half as smart as Alex.
It deffinetly matters where you live, lots of places here in New York are fine, But if you get down in New York city you dont wanna wander the night streets alone.

Also, lots of gang concentration in California. Compton, Long beach, ect ect.
15 more years! 15 more years!
doug1988
spank that azz.
+146|6334|Nibiru in a far away galaxy

Ollie wrote:

Here in Britain we have a lot of trouble with gangs of young teenagers (read: chavs) vandalising property, being abusive, and in some cases kicking the living shit out of people, literally. My question is: is this a problem in America? I know you have some of the biggest gangs in the world over there (bloods and the crips) but I'm mainly asking about the younger kids/teenagers involved in gang related violence.

It's a regular Clockwork Orange over here, except the people doing the ultra-violence aren't half as smart as Alex.
You're kidding right ? U.S.A = gangs in every neighborhood  , from the inner city to the suburb malls to the rural areas

Last edited by doug1988 (2008-04-17 15:07:11)

CTD-CaptainBuck
BLEEDING BLUE
+71|7243|Tenn
memphis is one giant sess-pool of everything that is bad. ur "chavs" dont hold a candle to the shit we get here

Violent crime

Memphis topped the list of 311 metro areas in its 2006 rate of violent crime -- homicide, rape, aggravated assault and robbery. The top 10 and selected others (violent crimes per 100,000 residents):
1.    Memphis    1,262.7
2.    Sumter, S.C.    1,244.0
3.    Shreveport, La.    1,187.9
Also a gem about a guy getting angry and slaughtering his 6 people in the house including 2 children and attempted to kill 3 more kids
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/20 … murders-t/
Home
Section.80
+447|7323|Seattle, Washington, USA

America has a lot of big gangs, but the difference is this:
1) The serious ones are generally only found in poor/urban areas.
2) Most of the violence they commit is directed at other gangs.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6437|Washington DC

doug1988 wrote:

Ollie wrote:

Here in Britain we have a lot of trouble with gangs of young teenagers (read: chavs) vandalising property, being abusive, and in some cases kicking the living shit out of people, literally. My question is: is this a problem in America? I know you have some of the biggest gangs in the world over there (bloods and the crips) but I'm mainly asking about the younger kids/teenagers involved in gang related violence.

It's a regular Clockwork Orange over here, except the people doing the ultra-violence aren't half as smart as Alex.
You're kidding right ? U.S.A = gangs in every neighborhood  , from the inner city to the suburb malls to the rural areas
lol wut

Most of the gangs are concentrated in the big cities, and in the poor areas. Northwest DC is a very different beast from Southeast DC...
Smithereener
Member
+138|6791|California

Mitch wrote:

Also, lots of gang concentration in California. Compton, Long beach, ect ect.
Although there aren't many (if any) gangs where I live, I can validate that Compton is one dangerous place to live overall. I went there a few times and when we were confronted by a group of guys sitting on the lawn of a house (my friends and I were in a car) I was fucking scared. Sucks being lost in a city.

And another time, we went to Dominguez High School for a Track meet which is right in Compton. Their track team were friendly people, but the ones outside were pretty scary. It's a gated high school with a police tower in the parking lot as well as police at the front entrance. I wonder why.
doug1988
spank that azz.
+146|6334|Nibiru in a far away galaxy

HurricaИe wrote:

doug1988 wrote:

Ollie wrote:

Here in Britain we have a lot of trouble with gangs of young teenagers (read: chavs) vandalising property, being abusive, and in some cases kicking the living shit out of people, literally. My question is: is this a problem in America? I know you have some of the biggest gangs in the world over there (bloods and the crips) but I'm mainly asking about the younger kids/teenagers involved in gang related violence.

It's a regular Clockwork Orange over here, except the people doing the ultra-violence aren't half as smart as Alex.
You're kidding right ? U.S.A = gangs in every neighborhood  , from the inner city to the suburb malls to the rural areas
lol wut

Most of the gangs are concentrated in the big cities, and in the poor areas. Northwest DC is a very different beast from Southeast DC...
Cough :http://www.fastennetwork.org/Display.asp?Page=gangStats
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6437|Washington DC

doug1988 wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

doug1988 wrote:


You're kidding right ? U.S.A = gangs in every neighborhood  , from the inner city to the suburb malls to the rural areas
lol wut

Most of the gangs are concentrated in the big cities, and in the poor areas. Northwest DC is a very different beast from Southeast DC...
Cough :http://www.fastennetwork.org/Display.asp?Page=gangStats
Yeah, explains the drive-bys in my neighborhood every night. And the constant armed burglaries near my dad's house.

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