nukchebi0
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Say you are taking a test in chemistry. You come upon the following question:

If the percentage yield for the coal gasification process in [the previous question] is increased to 95.0%, how much methane can be obtained from 2.75 g of carbon?

Equation: 2C+2H2O --> CH4+CO2

What is your answer?

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-04-21 18:08:00)

Flaming_Maniac
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You need to know how much stuff you got from the previous question, and what percent yield it was.
cablecopulate
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I'd cheat off the Asian kid.
steelie34
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cablecopulate wrote:

I'd cheat off the Asian kid.
nowadays its the indian kid
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nukchebi0
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Ugh, this wasn't the purpose. I know how to do it.

What unit would you answer in, considering the question carefully? Note the bold words in opening post.


Edit: India is in Asia, so it would still technically be the Asian kid.

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cablecopulate
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There are no bold words in the original post.
nukchebi0
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cablecopulate wrote:

There are no bold words in the original post.
There should be now.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-04-21 18:08:24)

steelie34
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grams?
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Smithereener
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steelie34 wrote:

grams?
That is what I'd think. Almost all the questions regarding percentage yield or "how much from x g of y substance" usually make you find the grams from what I've seen.
VicktorVauhn
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Liters @ STP?
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cablecopulate wrote:

I'd cheat off the Asian kid.
Charlie Goldberg?
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nukchebi0
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I was thinking "how much" implied an amount, which would be measured in moles.
Flaming_Maniac
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Answer should be in grams, I suppose you could put in in liters assuming STP, but I wouldn't.

edit:

to the above, the question is in grams, answer in grams. Don't be lazy.
VicktorVauhn
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nukchebi0 wrote:

I was thinking "how much" implied an amount, which would be measured in moles.
what was the answer supposed to be in?

TBH, if you have nothing else to go by give it to them in the measurement they gave it to you in.
Edit:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Answer should be in grams, I suppose you could put in in liters assuming STP, but I wouldn't.

edit:

to the above, the question is in grams, answer in grams. Don't be lazy.
Yeah a bit of a stretch...but grams was the obvious answer imo so I figured he did that, and if he was still complaining
Depending on the section the teacher may have just wanted to make them use that one damn equation....

Last edited by VicktorVauhn (2008-04-21 18:25:57)

steelie34
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nukchebi0 wrote:

I was thinking "how much" implied an amount, which would be measured in moles.
an amount can be measured in grams too...
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nukchebi0
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Okay.

The only problem is that every other time they wanted grams, they said 'how much mass' or 'what mass', and whenever they wanted moles, they said 'what amount'. 'How much' is much closer to 'what amount' than 'what mass'.
VicktorVauhn
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was it given to you in grams?
steelie34
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you are reading too much into the problem.  just answer in the way it makes sense to you, (and from your post it seems grams) and see what happens....
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CanadianLoser
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grams, final answer. i'm doing the same thing in chem right now.
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cablecopulate wrote:

I'd cheat off the Asian kid.
Cowami.
nukchebi0
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It made sense to me as moles, and I got it wrong for that reason.
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nukchebi0 wrote:

It made sense to me as moles, and I got it wrong for that reason.
use the units that are given and stop trying to over analyze everything. and don't come here to complain about getting a wrong answer, because there's a lot of jackasses on this website. learn from it and move on.

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nukchebi0
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Ender2309 wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

It made sense to me as moles, and I got it wrong for that reason.
use the units that are given and stop trying to over analyze everything. and don't come here to complain about getting a wrong answer, because there's a lot of jackasses on this website. learn from it and move on.
I was going to bring it up with the teacher further, but the responses have convinced me to not continue it.
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do you have to answer in moles, gramms or cubic meters?
If it has to be in volume then you would need the temperature too.
If it has to be in moles or gramms, then it is simple. You  calculate the carbon's mass amount into moles: (the mole mass of the carbon is roughly 12gramms/mole), and the methane will be half the amount of moles as the carbon you just calculated, and you can enumerate it to gramms if you have to (M(CH4)=16gramms/mole).
If you have a 95% percentage yield, it means that you converted 95% of the mass of the carbon into methane than the maximum.
So with a 100% yield you would have 0,23 moles (2,75/12) of carbon transform into 0,115 moles of methane, which is 1,84gramms.
Let's say that W(t) stands for the percentage yield, m(k) for the mass of methane you actually got, and m(e) for the maximum mass of metahne you could get from the amount of carbon. In this case W(t)=m(k)/m(e)*100%
So your W(t)=95% in this case, and your m(e)=1,84. From the equation you can calculate that the amount of methane you got is m(k)=1,748gramms. Almost the same as DrunkFace's result, so that will be a good answer imo.
Sorry for the long post but i felt like explain it, rather than just write in a number.

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