K so here it is, my dad's uploading pictures and at the same time I'm trying to play CoD4. He takes up all the bandwidth, and I get left with 999 ping, completely un-playable. Is there a program he could download to cap his upload speed so I can play and he can upload?
Just tell him to get the fuck off.
Tried, but he does pay for the internets.Gooners wrote:
Just tell him to get the fuck off.
Oh... Well that changes everything, even my perception on beastiality.
Uploading pictures shouldn't affect your online play to the point where your ping will spike that much unless you have a very low amount of bandwidth to begin with. Pictures are relatively small so uploading them to a website or whatever shouldn't matter that much. Now movies on the other hand.....
What about High Res, High Def Porn pics?
lol. Even high def pics won't consume enough bandwidth to have your play interrupted because of high ping...unless, of course it is high def movies...or any movies for that matter. If that is happening with pictures then your upload is something very low like 256 kbps. What is your upload and/or download speed?Gooners wrote:
What about High Res, High Def Porn pics?
Depends how many of them there are tbh.killer21 wrote:
Uploading pictures shouldn't affect your online play to the point where your ping will spike that much unless you have a very low amount of bandwidth to begin with. Pictures are relatively small so uploading them to a website or whatever shouldn't matter that much. Now movies on the other hand.....
Download netlimiter pro, lets you set caps on everything on your network.
Does it let you exceed caps too?Aries_37 wrote:
Download netlimiter pro, lets you set caps on everything on your network.
What do you mean? He wants something that lets him limit his dad's upload connection, and this will do it. There's no way his dad can see what's happening or exceed the cap unless he physically goes onto finny's pc and changes the netlimiter settings.Ryan wrote:
Does it let you exceed caps too?Aries_37 wrote:
Download netlimiter pro, lets you set caps on everything on your network.
I just wanted to know if I could break the bandwidth cap that my ISP gives me :pAries_37 wrote:
What do you mean? He wants something that lets him limit his dad's upload connection, and this will do it. There's no way his dad can see what's happening or exceed the cap unless he physically goes onto finny's pc and changes the netlimiter settings.Ryan wrote:
Does it let you exceed caps too?Aries_37 wrote:
Download netlimiter pro, lets you set caps on everything on your network.
Ah no thats not what netlimiter does. I don't think it's even possible to get around ISP capsRyan wrote:
I just wanted to know if I could break the bandwidth cap that my ISP gives me :pAries_37 wrote:
What do you mean? He wants something that lets him limit his dad's upload connection, and this will do it. There's no way his dad can see what's happening or exceed the cap unless he physically goes onto finny's pc and changes the netlimiter settings.Ryan wrote:
Does it let you exceed caps too?
You sometimes can if you mess with your modem. If you flash the firmware or something similar. I friend of mine did that once and could upload at like 500KB/s, and before the cap was like 30KB/s. But if your ISP catches on... it's not good for you.Aries_37 wrote:
Ah no thats not what netlimiter does. I don't think it's even possible to get around ISP caps
The pictures were ~20mb each. There were lots of them.killer21 wrote:
Uploading pictures shouldn't affect your online play to the point where your ping will spike that much unless you have a very low amount of bandwidth to begin with. Pictures are relatively small so uploading them to a website or whatever shouldn't matter that much. Now movies on the other hand.....
I'll look into this netlimiter pro.
Ok, that makes more sense. ISP's will always cap upload speeds because it is more expensive (as silly as that sounds) to maintain. Download speeds are easier to implement. That is why you will see packages like 15 Mbps down 2 Mbps up being cheap while packages like 15 Mbps down and up being more expensive.
How the hell? Not even 11MP pics from my mate's system camera are more than 4MB...!Funky_Finny wrote:
The pictures were ~20mb each. There were lots of them.killer21 wrote:
Uploading pictures shouldn't affect your online play to the point where your ping will spike that much unless you have a very low amount of bandwidth to begin with. Pictures are relatively small so uploading them to a website or whatever shouldn't matter that much. Now movies on the other hand.....
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Probably TIFF images. I used to deal with gigantic image files all when I edited yearbooks in high school.Freezer7Pro wrote:
How the hell? Not even 11MP pics from my mate's system camera are more than 4MB...!
Yeah most probably TIFF, I had to use a 40 MB TIFF image of Cent B when I was doing a science poster.
Well, not really.Dauntless wrote:
Depends how many of them there are tbh.killer21 wrote:
Uploading pictures shouldn't affect your online play to the point where your ping will spike that much unless you have a very low amount of bandwidth to begin with. Pictures are relatively small so uploading them to a website or whatever shouldn't matter that much. Now movies on the other hand.....
Most residential gateways and SOHO routers default to FIFO queueing.
We'll assume an upstream bandwidth of 128kbps, and a regular Ethernet network with an MTU of 1500. PC A is large pictures contiunously, and PC B is playing a game on an Internet server.
PC A, in mid-transfer, with normalised TCP window sizes, is chucking 1500 byte packets at the router, and PC B is sending updates to the Internet server. The router receives PC A's 1500 byte, 12000 bit packet, and immediately following this, the router receives a packet from PC B destined for the Internet server. The router starts transmitting the 12000 bit packet at 128kbps, or 131072 bits per second. It'll take the router (131072/12000) ~ 10 ~ 1/10th of a second, or 100ms to transmit this packet before it'll even begin to think about sending the traffic from PC B to the Internet server. Those 100ms is the time it would take the data just to leave your network. You would still have the distance to the server, the server processing, and the return path to cover, easily resulting in a round-trip time of 150+ms to a server close to you.
Now, let's assume instead an upload of 1Mbps, or 1048576 bits per second. The image data from PC A will now clear the buffer in (1048576/12000) ~ 87 ~ 1/87th of a second, or 11ms. That's 11 miliseconds of latency leaving your network, and going with the numbers before, your round-trip time would now be around 60ms. A lot more managable for playing games.
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mikkel wins the round.
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mikkel wins the round.
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mikkel wins the round, even though I didn't understand most of that.
I call bullshit. It's impossible to fiddle the cap your ISP gives you.SenorToenails wrote:
You sometimes can if you mess with your modem. If you flash the firmware or something similar. I friend of mine did that once and could upload at like 500KB/s, and before the cap was like 30KB/s. But if your ISP catches on... it's not good for you.Aries_37 wrote:
Ah no thats not what netlimiter does. I don't think it's even possible to get around ISP caps
You're connected to a modem at the exchange dedicated to you (or in some cases many people on the exact same speed). The speed of this modem determines your Internet connection. This is why your modem flashes before connecting, it's testing the modem at the other end and will set itself to the same speed.
If you set your modem to a different speed from the one at the exchange, you'll get errors and all data sent a received will be corrupt (because it's being read at a different bit rate than the sender).
There's nothing you can change at your end, your speed and bandwidth has to be changed at the exchange (which only your ISP can do).
Never say never. Many ISPs have had completely obscure provisioning setups, and this has been possible with a good few in ages past. The provisioning also depends on the technologies used. On a typical DSL connection, you'd kick up against a DSLAM that'd set the line parameters and configure the frequency bands needed to deliver your products. If you're on a metro ethernet connection, though, you're likely on the other end of a layer 3 switch with a policy map of some sort. DOCSIS is, as far as I've been able to understand, typically provisioned on the CPE due to the shared nature of the medium, and that could be a vector.rh27 wrote:
I call bullshit. It's impossible to fiddle the cap your ISP gives you.SenorToenails wrote:
You sometimes can if you mess with your modem. If you flash the firmware or something similar. I friend of mine did that once and could upload at like 500KB/s, and before the cap was like 30KB/s. But if your ISP catches on... it's not good for you.Aries_37 wrote:
Ah no thats not what netlimiter does. I don't think it's even possible to get around ISP caps
You're connected to a modem at the exchange dedicated to you (or in some cases many people on the exact same speed). The speed of this modem determines your Internet connection. This is why your modem flashes before connecting, it's testing the modem at the other end and will set itself to the same speed.
If you set your modem to a different speed from the one at the exchange, you'll get errors and all data sent a received will be corrupt (because it's being read at a different bit rate than the sender).
There's nothing you can change at your end, your speed and bandwidth has to be changed at the exchange (which only your ISP can do).
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