Turquoise wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Seems like the safe thing for you to do. Imply excusing inaction, point out the action, and then say I was generalizing.
If you'll notice, I said
I was generalizing.
Kmarion wrote:
Thus it would be the responsibility of society to educate. The fact that these groups have been on the decline for the last few hundred years should tell you about the impact society has had (without stripping freedoms). Throwing the word cult around every other paragraph without having any real experience or knowledge (other than the dribble we pass off as media) is not enough reason to fool ourselves into thinking that shifting moral responsibility to the government is possible.
I'd rather shift it to the state than have cult leaders possess some of it.
Kmarion wrote:
History has shown that once a society gives up it's personal freedom it is extremely hard to get them back. You talk about the fine line between religion and insanity (which is insulting all in itself). You are intentionally trying to blur the line between religion and cults. We know what comes next in your logic (ban it all). It's no secret that you have a personal distaste for religion, we get it already. As a person who warns us nearly daily about the corrupt and nefarious agenda of the state I've got to think you are being selfish. It seems you are willing to sacrifice the freedoms of others because they don't jive with your non-consent of religion. You have even said yourself "Normally, I err on the side of freedom, but I don't when it comes to religion and cults." The assumption of rape without proof (yet) allows you to hide behind the idea that you are now the champion for the rights of children. I call BS.. If you really cared you would let the judicial process run it's course... then pass your judgment. But of course if getting rid of freedom of religion is your real goal then to hell with habeas corpus. Now that is screwed up! Essentially, normally you would side with freedom, unless it doesn't serve you.
Yes, but most people do that. We each make choices that reflect your last sentence. I'm sure I could find your case if I looked hard enough.
Schuss has explained my position better than I have. Read his last post again, and see if you still think I'm a "commie."
Turq; if you weree a government agent, and you came to my house to take my kids away, there would be gun fire and I would die before letting that happen.
Who are you to define what religious beliefs are acceptable?
What is your education in regards to religion?
Do you have pyscology degree? Social engineering degree? Do you have experience kicking in doors to remove children from their homes or are we really talking about meaningless rhetoric design to inflame a forum?
That I could understand, as I have been guilty of it.
If however, you are serious you may feel safe from the thugs and death dealers who collect our taxes, right up until they declare your interests un beneficial to the interests of The State. Then you will lament the power you so lavishly slathered on these parasites.