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2008-04-26 11:58:31
rammunition
Fully Loaded
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Israel has been building nuclear plants in secret for decades, a whistle blower by the name of Mordechai Vanunu was kidnapped when caught and has spent the last 20 years in jail for exposing Israel's secret nuclear program.
The fact is that in addition to tanks, F-16s and cluster bombs, Israel has nukes, and its is Israel (not Syria or Iran or Hamas) which is illegally occupying land and extending its lawful borders.

Also Israel is the biggest proliferator in the region. Not Syria, not Iran.
Israel is armed to the teeth and attacks everyone but the other country should shut up and receive this without flinching?
Syria has just announced that it was ready for more talks and for peace. Israel has announced that it might bomb Syria.
Hamas has announced that it was accepting a ceasefire. Israel has rebuked this.
the obvious answer is: Israel does not want peace.

It is time to stop appeasing Israel.


one more thing i will add. 189 countries have signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which is a treaty to limit the spread of nuclear weapons. 5 nations on the list have nukes. Only 4 countries haven't signed this treaty. Israel with being one of them who hasn't signed and the only nation in the middle east who hasn't.


why shouldn't Syria or,better, Iran bomb Israel's nuclear facilities as there is a much better case to do so?
2008-04-26 12:08:59
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6871|Chicago, IL
you again?

First off, I'd like to see any Syrian mirage fighters penetrate the IDF air corps defensive lines.

Second, It's been common knowledge that the Israelis have, or have the capability to produce nuclear arms, but that alone is not grounds for an attack.  Unlike Syria, Israel has never publicly called for the destruction of it's neighboring nations.

You seem to misunderstand the meaning of a ceasefire, it is neither a permanent solution nor an act of peace, merely an unofficial statement claiming that no more organized attacks will occur, while Hamas tries to buy time to strengthen its defenses in between Israel's offense.

Long story short, Israel might not be a peaceful nation, but Hamas and Syria have proven themselves to be aggressor states many times over.
2008-04-26 12:09:23
imortal
Member
+240|7089|Austin, TX

rammunition wrote:

Israel has been building nuclear plants in secret for decades, a whistle blower by the name of Mordechai Vanunu was kidnapped when caught and has spent the last 20 years in jail for exposing Israel's secret nuclear program.
The fact is that in addition to tanks, F-16s and cluster bombs, Israel has nukes, and its is Israel (not Syria or Iran or Hamas) which is illegally occupying land and extending its lawful borders.
My understanding was that the territory you say is unlawful was territory gained during warfare fromt he nations that attacked them.  If Isreal never signed a treaty to return the land, then belongs to Isreal.

Since you are full of hyperbole today, what makes a nations borders 'lawful?'  Is it an agreement with the neighboring country, or does it have to be approved and ratified by the UN, in your opinion?  If a nation changes its mind and claims that your territory really belongs to them, what happens?  Do you then trust to the UN to "do the right thing?"
2008-04-26 12:14:06
cowami
OY, BITCHTITS!
+1,106|6714|Noo Yawk, Noo Yawk

i say they should cut out the middle man and just go out and bomb the US&A

i know you'll agree
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2008-04-26 12:19:26
rammunition
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the question is "why shouldn't Syria or,better, Iran bomb Israel's nuclear facilities"

i gave a bit of info to make a case and the discussion on territory should be left for another thread
2008-04-26 12:19:36
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7045|London, England
Sure, if they can do it without failing. If they can't, they should either suck it up and bolster their air defence. Or continue being the bitch that keeps getting bitch slapped. Israel will do whatever it wants, because it knows it can. If Syria can't defend their own airspace, that's their fault. They're not exactly a peaceful nation, so they can't cry about unfairness that they're being attacked.
2008-04-26 12:20:06
Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6902|Communist Republic of CA, USA
I'd like to see them try.

Like Cowami says, why don't you call for a state-sponsored Terrorist attack on America?  It'd get more done, and I know it's what you want, and it would further your goals of peace.
2008-04-26 12:23:01
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6992|Mountains of NC

fuck it ......... lets (USA) just sweep all of the middle east and stake it as our territory ........... they can pay rent to us for letting them stay there
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2008-04-26 12:44:29
rammunition
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Major.League.Infidel wrote:

I'd like to see them try.

Like Cowami says, why don't you call for a state-sponsored Terrorist attack on America?  It'd get more done, and I know it's what you want, and it would further your goals of peace.
its ok, the recession is hitting you yanks hard. Your government is slowly destroying America and hopefully it will continue. Karma is prevailing

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818

Last edited by rammunition (2008-04-26 12:47:40)

2008-04-26 12:51:41
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6871|Chicago, IL

rammunition wrote:

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

I'd like to see them try.

Like Cowami says, why don't you call for a state-sponsored Terrorist attack on America?  It'd get more done, and I know it's what you want, and it would further your goals of peace.
its ok, the recession is hitting you yanks hard. Your government is slowly destroying America and hopefully it will continue. Karma is prevailing

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818
lol, the suction from our economic failure will pull you down too.

see you at the bottom
2008-04-26 12:53:49
rammunition
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S.Lythberg wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

I'd like to see them try.

Like Cowami says, why don't you call for a state-sponsored Terrorist attack on America?  It'd get more done, and I know it's what you want, and it would further your goals of peace.
its ok, the recession is hitting you yanks hard. Your government is slowly destroying America and hopefully it will continue. Karma is prevailing

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818
lol, the suction from our economic failure will pull you down too.

see you at the bottom
i haven't been affected nor will i


LETS STICK TO THE QUESTION PLEASE, THANK YOU
2008-04-26 12:55:05
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6924|so randum

rammunition wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

rammunition wrote:

its ok, the recession is hitting you yanks hard. Your government is slowly destroying America and hopefully it will continue. Karma is prevailing

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818
lol, the suction from our economic failure will pull you down too.

see you at the bottom
i haven't been affected nor will i


LETS STICK TO THE QUESTION PLEASE, THANK YOU
You wouldn't be affected by the fall of the US economically?

Pull your head out of your arse.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
2008-04-26 12:56:14
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6871|Chicago, IL

rammunition wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

rammunition wrote:


its ok, the recession is hitting you yanks hard. Your government is slowly destroying America and hopefully it will continue. Karma is prevailing

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818
lol, the suction from our economic failure will pull you down too.

see you at the bottom
i haven't been affected nor will i


LETS STICK TO THE QUESTION PLEASE, THANK YOU
That's quite ignorant, a complete economic meltdown of any of the world's top economic powers will have a massive ripple effect across the globe.  I could go into it, if you want.


As for your "topic," I already gave you my answer.
2008-04-26 12:56:23
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7075|USA

rammunition wrote:

the question is "why shouldn't Syria or,better, Iran bomb Israel's nuclear facilities"

i gave a bit of info to make a case and the discussion on territory should be left for another thread
Because Israel is not interested in the destruction of its neighbors, only to be left the fuck alone. Now, which neighboring nation can say that in regards to dealing with Israel?Israel is interested in its own defense from its neighbors.
2008-04-26 13:09:01
san4
The Mas
+311|7112|NYC, a place to live

lowing wrote:

rammunition wrote:

the question is "why shouldn't Syria or,better, Iran bomb Israel's nuclear facilities"

i gave a bit of info to make a case and the discussion on territory should be left for another thread
Because Israel is not interested in the destruction of its neighbors, only to be left the fuck alone. Now, which neighboring nation can say that in regards to dealing with Israel?Israel is interested in its own defense from its neighbors.
Beat me to it. Syria should feel free to bomb Israel's nuclear facilities when Israel says it wants to wipe Syria off the map.
2008-04-26 13:13:28
rammunition
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when did syria or Iran say Israel should be wiped off the map????

Iran said ZIONISM SHOULD BE WIPED OFF THE PAGES OF HISTORY

watch this and get educated

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ

some people believe anything they are told. If the media said the grass is red or the earth is flat i bet many here would believe it without questioning
2008-04-26 13:14:12
imortal
Member
+240|7089|Austin, TX

rammunition wrote:

the question is "why shouldn't Syria or,better, Iran bomb Israel's nuclear facilities"

i gave a bit of info to make a case and the discussion on territory should be left for another thread
...if you didn't want to discuss it, you shouldn't have used it for your example.
2008-04-26 13:15:20
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6871|Chicago, IL

rammunition wrote:

when did syria or Iran say Israel should be wiped off the map????

Iran said ZIONISM SHOULD BE WIPED OFF THE PAGES OF HISTORY

watch this and get educated

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ

some people believe anything they are told. If the media said the grass is red or the earth is flat i bet many here would believe it without questioning
all hail the all knowing youtube!

Israels neighbors have repeatedly called for the elimination of Israel, and have conducted several wars in an attempt to do so, learn your history.
2008-04-26 13:15:28
rammunition
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when was the last time the army/air force etc of Syria or Iran bombed a neighboring country???
when was the last time Israel did???



need i say more
2008-04-26 13:20:13
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6286

S.Lythberg wrote:

rammunition wrote:

when did syria or Iran say Israel should be wiped off the map????

Iran said ZIONISM SHOULD BE WIPED OFF THE PAGES OF HISTORY

watch this and get educated

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ

some people believe anything they are told. If the media said the grass is red or the earth is flat i bet many here would believe it without questioning
all hail the all knowing youtube!

Israels neighbors have repeatedly called for the elimination of Israel, and have conducted several wars in an attempt to do so, learn your history.
here is what the Iranian president said



"Our dear Imam (referring to Ayatollah Khomeini) said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world"

The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)



Also the most compelling thing is that this speech was at the "world without zionism" conference

its all over the net, research rather than believing everything you are told
2008-04-26 13:23:16
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6962|Long Island, New York

rammunition wrote:

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

I'd like to see them try.

Like Cowami says, why don't you call for a state-sponsored Terrorist attack on America?  It'd get more done, and I know it's what you want, and it would further your goals of peace.
its ok, the recession is hitting you yanks hard. Your government is slowly destroying America and hopefully it will continue. Karma is prevailing

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818
This, my friends, is why abortion should remain legal.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-04-26 13:23:41)

2008-04-26 13:24:24
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6871|Chicago, IL
lol, apparently the term metaphor means nothing to you.

hmm, what could the "zionist occupiers" possibly be referring to?
2008-04-26 13:33:59
jord
Member
+2,382|7102|The North, beyond the wall.
If someone  bombed my country, presumming I'm the leader. I'd hit them back.

And if I couldn't, I'd quit bitching and go build a proper Army.
2008-04-26 13:34:10
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6818|The Gem Saloon

rammunition wrote:

when was the last time the army/air force etc of Syria or Iran bombed a neighboring country???
when was the last time Israel did???



need i say more
yep, a lot more to make a valid point anytime soon.
2008-04-26 13:45:06
topthrill05
Member
+125|7002|Rochester NY USA
If they did, they know they would be blown off the map. Right or wrong.

Thats why.

 

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