AMD X2's X3's X4's What?

2008-04-29 23:07:22

#1

NeXuS: Shock it till ya know it; +375|6613|Atlanta, Georgia

Can anyone give me a rundown of the new AMD proccesors such as the X3's and X4's? I've fallen a bit behind and all i need is an overview whats compatible with what and so on. Some of the X3's and X4's are 2.2ghz and the older 5000's are 2.6 so whats the story behind that?

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2008-04-29 23:11:49

#2

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6595|New Haven, CT

The number next to the X is the number of cores. AMD introduced tri-core (X3) processors based off of the Phenom quad cores (X4). They are the same, except with one core disabled. The architecture in these processors is named Barcelona, and it differs from the X2s.

X2s are obviously the Athlon dual-cores we all know and love.

X3 and X4 are socket AM2+, which also works with standard socket AM2 (although supposedly with a 5% performance decrease). X2s work in Socket AM2.

The clock speeds are different because of the different core architecture and presence of more cores in the X3 and X4. You should be able to google Phenom X3 or Phenom X4 and quickly find a review detailing the performance differences is various applications.

2008-04-29 23:13:25

#3

NeXuS: Shock it till ya know it; +375|6613|Atlanta, Georgia

If i had the money which would you recommend?

2008-04-29 23:17:40

#4

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6595|New Haven, CT

NeXuS4909 wrote:
If i had the money which would you recommend?

How much money and for what applications?

2008-04-29 23:19:51

#5

NeXuS: Shock it till ya know it; +375|6613|Atlanta, Georgia

i would say around $200 USD and its basicly for gaming. I wanna be set for awhile so that i dont have to upgrade every year. My 3700 has laster me just about 3 years

2008-04-29 23:28:37

#6

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6595|New Haven, CT

I would actually go with a Q6600.

2008-04-29 23:37:14

#7

NeXuS: Shock it till ya know it; +375|6613|Atlanta, Georgia

I was thinking of going with this. I like AMD cause im more familiar with them and i like em.

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2008-04-29 23:50:08

#8

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6595|New Haven, CT

Oh, no.

I forgot to mention that.

Phenom 9x00s have B2 stepping, which sucks and has a bug.

Get a Phenom 9x50 Phenom 9550.

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2008-04-30 03:25:15

#9

Brasso: member; +1,549|6901

nukchebi0 wrote:
Oh, no.

I forgot to mention that.

Phenom 9x00s have B2 stepping, which sucks and has a bug.

Get a Phenom 9x50Phenom 9550.

nukchebi0 wrote:
Q6600.

Last edited by haffeysucks (2008-04-30 03:25:37)

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2008-04-30 03:30:49

#10

The#1Spot: Member; +105|6811|byah

nukchebi0 wrote:
I would actually go with a Q6600.

The processor is over 200 by its self and need an overpriced motherboard. 8450 which is a 3x and you will also need a am2+ mother board. Get one in the 100$ range and sell your old stuff.

2008-04-30 03:38:10

#11

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6838|NYC / Hamburg

Do you really need a quad core? Look into the 45nm intel dual-cores

Last edited by max (2008-04-30 03:38:29)

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2008-04-30 04:55:43

#12

Scratch[USA]: Member; +105|6818

if you want, really want, AMD go with the 9850BE B3 stepping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819103249

People are getting descent clocks off of this phenom

2008-04-30 05:47:30

#13

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6468|Winland

AMD is not the way to go at the moment. They will propably get back later this year, or next year, but Intel is the way to go right now. If you want something that'll last you a while, get a Q6600 or Q6700 (Now when they're down to decent prices), or maybe an E8200/E8400/E8500. They will give you better price/performace than the Phenoms, and they're not as hot either.

No matter if you're used to AMD or not, you've gotta be able to adapt to the market. AMD had their gold age before the Cc2D, with Pentium 4s and Pentium Ds on Intels side, and their supreme Athlon XPs and Athlon 64s on their side. Now, however, Intel has got the upper hand with supreme processors to very competitive prices. AMD tried to get back with the Phenoms, but they just didn't make it. If AMD is able to get out a new, even more effective architecture before Intel, and it proves to be supreme to Intel's opposing generation, then we'll get to look at AMD again.

But for now, Intel is supreme, and the certain way to go.

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2008-04-30 07:25:31

#14

Brasso: member; +1,549|6901

Freezer7Pro wrote:
AMD is not the way to go at the moment. They will propably get back later this year, or next year, but Intel is the way to go right now. If you want something that'll last you a while, get a Q6600 or Q6700 (Now when they're down to decent prices), or maybe an E8200/E8400/E8500. They will give you better price/performace than the Phenoms, and they're not as hot either.

No matter if you're used to AMD or not, you've gotta be able to adapt to the market. AMD had their gold age before the Cc2D, with Pentium 4s and Pentium Ds on Intels side, and their supreme Athlon XPs and Athlon 64s on their side. Now, however, Intel has got the upper hand with supreme processors to very competitive prices. AMD tried to get back with the Phenoms, but they just didn't make it. If AMD is able to get out a new, even more effective architecture before Intel, and it proves to be supreme to Intel's opposing generation, then we'll get to look at AMD again.

But for now, Intel is supreme, and the certain way to go.

truth

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2008-04-30 08:08:34

#15

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6838|NYC / Hamburg

Freezer7Pro wrote:
AMD is not the way to go at the moment. They will propably get back later this year, or next year, but Intel is the way to go right now. If you want something that'll last you a while, get a Q6600 or Q6700 (Now when they're down to decent prices), or maybe an E8200/E8400/E8500. They will give you better price/performace than the Phenoms, and they're not as hot either.

No matter if you're used to AMD or not, you've gotta be able to adapt to the market. AMD had their gold age before the Cc2D, with Pentium 4s and Pentium Ds on Intels side, and their supreme Athlon XPs and Athlon 64s on their side. Now, however, Intel has got the upper hand with supreme processors to very competitive prices. AMD tried to get back with the Phenoms, but they just didn't make it. If AMD is able to get out a new, even more effective architecture before Intel, and it proves to be supreme to Intel's opposing generation, then we'll get to look at AMD again.

But for now, Intel is supreme, and the certain way to go.

god has spoken

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2008-04-30 08:51:34

#16

NeXuS: Shock it till ya know it; +375|6613|Atlanta, Georgia

So this is the way to go?

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 813131232R

Proccesor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819115017

EDIT: So how is the stock fan on the Q6600's?

Last edited by NeXuS4909 (2008-04-30 08:53:50)

2008-04-30 10:59:20

#17

CrazeD: Member; +368|6944|Maine

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813128059

I would get this board; unless you want SLi.

2008-04-30 11:00:46

#18

NeXuS: Shock it till ya know it; +375|6613|Atlanta, Georgia

CrazeD wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

I would get this board; unless you want SLi.

Yea i wanna SLi some 8800GT's later on down the road

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813131142

2008-04-30 21:25:40

#19

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6595|New Haven, CT

NeXuS4909 wrote:
EDIT: So how is the stock fan on the Q6600's?

Utter crap.

Get the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro.

2008-04-30 22:01:36

#20

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,054|7043|PNW

A newer quad core Yorkfield Intel CPU is only about $80 more than the Q6600 if you want to marginally save more power.

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