ATG
Banned
+5,233|6953|Global Command
The government has a new approach to border enforcement. Instead of just focusing on people who are entering the country illegally, the Los Angeles Times says federal agents are also arresting undocumented foreigners who are trying to leave the United States.
Jacking up the numbers of arrests to justify the budget?

Fourth sign of the Apocalypse this week?

Stuck on stupid?
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 … t-ill.html
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7184|San Antonio, Texas
What are they going to do? Deport them?
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7190|Cambridge (UK)
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7025|132 and Bush

Typical of our bureaucratic inefficiency.. let's give them control of our health care also!
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6829|North Carolina
Better that the government runs health insurance than the HMOs.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6871|Chicago, IL
you assume they will not attempt to come back in.

Instead of deporting them to Mexico, I suggest Chile, then they wont be back so soon.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6577|what

Border Security.

Stopping those who try to leave, and failing to stop those who enter.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7025|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:

Better that the government runs health insurance than the HMOs.
lol.. right. As in the feds?
Xbone Stormsurgezz
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6953|Global Command
lolololololololol you and your illegal immigrant posts.
I know some think this is an overblown problem.
I know some think America is getting it's just desserts.

But the fact remains that there is no bigger issue facing America than the illegal aliens from Mexico issue.

Not that there aren't illegal aliens from China, Somalia, Yugoslavia, Armenia ( I have met illegal aliens from all these countries ), it's that the people from those countries do not represent half the menace that the ones from Mexico.

Why, you say?

Shear numbers.
Lack of desire to be citizens ( they think they already are ).
Total ignorance and disrespect for the law.

I don't care what you say Scorpian, I'm not hear to debate this issue with you, I am doing one micro small part in getting people aware. I will not stop making threads about illegal aliens from Mexico, ever, until the issue is dealt with, or I get banned.

You are also from the U.K. , which has it's own very large illegal immigration issue. So frankly, these threads aren't made with you in mind. You might even consider the fact that I find your opinion on this matter to be irrelevant. Feel free to post whatever you want, and state your views. Just know I rank you up there with Rammunition.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7130
Of course.  They won't deport illegals who are 1/2 a mile inside the border, but when they leave...  Whose bright idea was this?
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6953|Global Command

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Of course.  They won't deport illegals who are 1/2 a mile inside the border, but when they leave...  Whose bright idea was this?
I can imagine the excuse would be that as a once deported illegal alien it jacks their chances of getting amnesty.

Fucking Christ. Why are politicians committing national suicide.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6966|Texas - Bigger than France
Well they are in the US illegally.  Its common practice to go back and forth over the border, so why not arrest them?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6966|Texas - Bigger than France

ATG wrote:

Shear numbers.
Lack of desire to be citizens ( they think they already are ).
Total ignorance and disrespect for the law.
Agree completely on all fronts.  The disrespect from the law comes from the fact that they've willing placed themselves in a desperate situation.  I also know a 50 year old lady who was robbed by an illegal, who repeatly raped her over a few days, and beat her enough to leave her for dead.  She's ok now, but now is a shut in.  I'm usually besides myself for a few days after visiting with her...I cannot get her to leave her house.

Then on top of that, there's the expectations that the some of the benefits, like public safety and medical care, should be provided without having to any sort of payment at all.

But from the economic standpoint:  Illegals do add to the economy, but not as much as someone who is playing within the rules would.  And that blows.

And from the health standpoint: healthcare in Mexico isn't at the same level as it is in the US.  So living near the border puts you at greater risk to contract contagious diseases then in other states.  If you check out tuberculosis rates per state, you'll see a spike for the border states, due to the fact a person with TB has the potential to infect everyone they come in contact with on the way to wherever they end up.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7190|Cambridge (UK)

ATG wrote:

I don't care what you say Scorpian, I'm not hear to debate this issue with you, I am doing one micro small part in getting people aware. I will not stop making threads about illegal aliens from Mexico, ever, until the issue is dealt with, or I get banned.
This is Debate and Serious Talk - if you don't want to debate it, then why post it?

ATG wrote:

You are also from the U.K. , which has it's own very large illegal immigration issue. So frankly, these threads aren't made with you in mind. You might even consider the fact that I find your opinion on this matter to be irrelevant. Feel free to post whatever you want, and state your views. Just know I rank you up there with Rammunition.
Surely the fact the we, the UK, also have an illegal immigrant issue makes my opinions all the more pertinent?

And I just don't get your dislike of me. Is it that I question your opinion? Or merely that I have a different opinion to you?

It may surprise you, but I understand your point of view. Just as I understand the views of people in the UK who hold very similar views to you about our illegal immigrants.

I also don't deny that a problem exists.

But, once again, the problem is that our current systems, and attitudes, don't work. Border control doesn't work.

The planet as whole is more than capable of supporting mankind as a whole (as long as we don't get much bigger) - but in order to make that happen we are going to have to dissolve our borders and learn to think of 'home' as Earth, not our country, state, house, or whatever.

What say we all just stop shitting all over the place, and pissing all our planet-mates off?

And by that I mean everyone - I think we in the west bear a huge responsibility - we are in the position to make this 'utopia' a reality instead of sticking with our old, bad, habits - but, this is something that human-kind as a whole must 'take ownership of' - what could 6billion minds all working in the same direction achieve, compared to 6billion pulling in different directions?

To quote Lennon, "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope someday you'll join us. And the world will be as one".

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-05-08 10:34:45)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7045|London, England
I heard that when alot of Illegals want to go back, then just turn themselves in to the Feds so they get a free ride back to Mexico or w/e
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7025|132 and Bush

I hear the pawn shops are a good place to catch thieves. It's easier to catch them on the flip side I guess..lol
Xbone Stormsurgezz
13rin
Member
+977|6903
You know.  I really don't care if they were trying to leave, come, go, stay...  They are still illegeals.  Lock them the fuck up.  Then deport them, to France.  Kidding about the France part, but lock em up inconvience them a bit.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6915|Northern California
Well they probably are loaded down with cash and other valuables, why not!  Also, it'd be good to lojack them.  Knock them out, lojack them with a long range RFID, let them wake up in a bathtub full of ice somewhere in...Mexico!  THen nail them when they return.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6607|Ireland
According to the liberals the US would collapse without the illegals here doing the work lazy ass Americans won't do, so of course we can't let them leave the US.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7045|London, England

Lotta_Drool wrote:

According to the liberals the US would collapse without the illegals here doing the work lazy ass Americans won't do, so of course we can't let them leave the US.
But, it's more or less true. Perhaps it wasn't a few decades ago, but today... (same goes for over here and Polish people)
SEREVENT
MASSIVE G STAR
+605|6531|Birmingham, UK

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

What are they going to do? Deport them?
No... IMPORT them.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6607|Ireland

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

According to the liberals the US would collapse without the illegals here doing the work lazy ass Americans won't do, so of course we can't let them leave the US.
But, it's more or less true. Perhaps it wasn't a few decades ago, but today... (same goes for over here and Polish people)
Alaska, Montana, Hawaii, and the other states without all the illegals must be about ready to fold now...  ( doh )
Magpie
international welder....Douchebag Dude, <3 ur mom
+257|6950|Milkystania, yurop
Lulz just Lulz
SealXo
Member
+309|6960
Sir you are trying to leave to mexico?
Alright you don thave papers?

Well its your lucky day, we are going to drive you there!
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6964|byah

Pug wrote:

Well they are in the US illegally.  Its common practice to go back and forth over the border, so why not arrest them?
The US pays the illegal aliens to be in jail.

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