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Do you agree with gay couples adopting kids from poor countries?

Yes61%61% - 57
No38%38% - 36
Total: 93
FallenMorgan
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madmurre wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:

madmurre wrote:

Yes IF the biological parents approve you have to respect their cultural view even if you don´t agree on it in allot of development countries gay couples are denied adoptions.
If a black couple adopts a white baby they don't need the permission of the biological parents.  Usually if parents put their kid up for adoption, they wouldn't care if the adoptive parents are gay.  What if the couple is really caring and whatnot, they get refused, and the next couple that comes around is abusive, but it's a man and a woman?
Look from their perspective basicly hey we are the sons from satan and gonna take "care" of your child you would´nt want your kids to be raised by demons from hell would you?

the example is a tad bit bisarre but i think you see my point and the scenario your using could be used the other way around.
WHO GIVES A FUCK?

They put their kid up for adoption why should we all fucking care what their completely biggoted asses think?  Sure, I'd hate it if a hypothetical offspring of mine was adopted by conservatives, but beliefs are different from sexual orientation.  Usually homosexual couples who adopt are in stable, loving relationships, and treat eachother, as well as others, with love and respect.

The way you put "care" in quotations seems to imply that you think a gay couple would molest a young child.

Drakef wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:


Um...so fucking what?

The only reason people want kids to know what "real family life" is like is so they grow up to get married and have a bunch of kids in a suburban house with a white picket fence and all that other bullshit.
not the point, kids will find out that they have gay adoptive parents, and they'll get hell for it.

and FYI, your anti-society bias is showing.
Kids will always be bullied and harassed. If they wear a yellow shirt, if they are brown, if they are left handed. if they eat a different lunch- Kids will always find a reason to pick on certain other kids. Unless you wish to legislate complete conformity, I don't believe that one different aspect will be radically different.
Correct.

Last edited by FallenMorgan (2008-05-06 22:38:42)

madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
+117|7134|Sweden

FallenMorgan wrote:

madmurre wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:


If a black couple adopts a white baby they don't need the permission of the biological parents.  Usually if parents put their kid up for adoption, they wouldn't care if the adoptive parents are gay.  What if the couple is really caring and whatnot, they get refused, and the next couple that comes around is abusive, but it's a man and a woman?
Look from their perspective basicly hey we are the sons from satan and gonna take "care" of your child you would´nt want your kids to be raised by demons from hell would you?

the example is a tad bit bisarre but i think you see my point and the scenario your using could be used the other way around.
WHO GIVES A FUCK?

They put their kid up for adoption why should we all fucking care what their completely biggoted asses think?  Sure, I'd hate it if a hypothetical offspring of mine was adopted by conservatives, but beliefs are different from sexual orientation.  Usually homosexual couples who adopt are in stable, loving relationships, and treat eachother, as well as others, with love and respect.

The way you put "care" in quotations seems to imply that you think a gay couple would molest a young child.
Who gives a fuck? Funny you put it that way reading your other posts about so called forced marriages i´m happy to tell you the exact same. Besides that i´m sure their parents would care then there´s laws preventing gay adoptions from happening in certain countries as well, and try to think outside your box for an exchange everyone does´nt agree/think like you i would say most people don´t. You can´t influence someone unless you understand them.

And please calling the mothers who choose to adopt their babies biggoted asses is laughable, There´s a shitload of reasons why someone would choose to give up their kid i won´t name any i´m sure your a smart kid and could imagine how the life could look for a single mother in Etiopia or Bangladesh for example.

Btw i would´nt mind gay adoptions at all.
BVC
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If straight couples are allowed to adopt kids from poor countries, so too should gay couples.
Megalomaniac
Formerly known as Missionless
+92|6752|105 RVK
If the adopted kid gets bullied, the bully need fucking parenting and he probable has that "american mom&dad" and look how well they raise their bully. If your kid does not have the maturity to accept an adopted kid with gay parents then thats their problem. I bet you could ask any starving african kid if he wants to be adopted by a normal living gay family the could wouldn't give a crap about them being gay.

You guys really want a kid to starve to death instead of him being adopted by gay couples, fucking sick I tell ya.

Last edited by Missionless (2008-05-07 07:16:43)

FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6835|'Murka

Missionless wrote:

If the adopted kid gets bullied, the bully need fucking parenting and he probable has that "american mom&dad" and look how well they raise their bully. If your kid does not have the maturity to accept an adopted kid with gay parents then thats their problem. I bet you could ask any starving african kid if he wants to be adopted by a normal living gay family the could wouldn't give a crap about them being gay.

You guys really want a kid to starve to death instead of him being adopted by gay couples, fucking sick I tell ya.
My God...you people even have to turn this type of thread into a "bash America" thread, ffs.
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Wreckognize
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+294|6909

argo4 wrote:

i'd say no just cause a boy adopted and raised by gays will pretty much be screwed up for life, i.e. he won't know what real family life is like  and he will be ostracized for being weird/effeminate/acting gay. For girls, gay parents are probably alright
Yes, because with the divorce rate being what it is, kids these days certainly know what real family life is.  And gay parents will only raise gay kids, just like straight parents only raise straight kids.
FallenMorgan
Member
+53|6338|Glendale, CA

madmurre wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:

madmurre wrote:


Look from their perspective basicly hey we are the sons from satan and gonna take "care" of your child you would´nt want your kids to be raised by demons from hell would you?

the example is a tad bit bisarre but i think you see my point and the scenario your using could be used the other way around.
WHO GIVES A FUCK?

They put their kid up for adoption why should we all fucking care what their completely biggoted asses think?  Sure, I'd hate it if a hypothetical offspring of mine was adopted by conservatives, but beliefs are different from sexual orientation.  Usually homosexual couples who adopt are in stable, loving relationships, and treat eachother, as well as others, with love and respect.

The way you put "care" in quotations seems to imply that you think a gay couple would molest a young child.
Who gives a fuck? Funny you put it that way reading your other posts about so called forced marriages i´m happy to tell you the exact same. Besides that i´m sure their parents would care then there´s laws preventing gay adoptions from happening in certain countries as well, and try to think outside your box for an exchange everyone does´nt agree/think like you i would say most people don´t. You can´t influence someone unless you understand them.

And please calling the mothers who choose to adopt their babies biggoted asses is laughable, There´s a shitload of reasons why someone would choose to give up their kid i won´t name any i´m sure your a smart kid and could imagine how the life could look for a single mother in Etiopia or Bangladesh for example.

Btw i would´nt mind gay adoptions at all.
I meant parents who care if the adoptive parents are gay.  They're biggoted.

The civil rights movement came and went.  We no longer give leeway to the biggoted fucks who hate black people, so why should we give leeway to biggoted fucks who hate gays?
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6530|eXtreme to the maX

Aussiereaper wrote:

I wouldn't have a problem with it, however: the gay couples would still have to be as stable as any other couple and would have to go through just as much red tape and background checks, etc.

I don't think they should get special consideration either discriminatory or by quicker access through the adoption process.

And of course, I'd want there to be checkups from whichever adoption agency is running the program to ensure the child's safety and well being. Mental as well as physical.
Kind of agree, but still find it a bit too strange to accept it.
Gays do seem to treat pets, children etc as symbols, accessories, playthings (can't find the right word) much more so than straight people however.
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FallenMorgan
Member
+53|6338|Glendale, CA

Dilbert_X wrote:

Aussiereaper wrote:

I wouldn't have a problem with it, however: the gay couples would still have to be as stable as any other couple and would have to go through just as much red tape and background checks, etc.

I don't think they should get special consideration either discriminatory or by quicker access through the adoption process.

And of course, I'd want there to be checkups from whichever adoption agency is running the program to ensure the child's safety and well being. Mental as well as physical.
Kind of agree, but still find it a bit too strange to accept it.
Gays do seem to treat pets, children etc as symbols, accessories, playthings (can't find the right word) much more so than straight people however.
They should only get the same amount of checkups as a straight couple.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7070
Remind me to look at more threads on gays. The add right now is two chicks about to kiss. Too lazy to copy and paste it.

Two chicks can adopt but not two guys cuz thats gross.
Megalomaniac
Formerly known as Missionless
+92|6752|105 RVK

FEOS wrote:

Missionless wrote:

If the adopted kid gets bullied, the bully need fucking parenting and he probable has that "american mom&dad" and look how well they raise their bully. If your kid does not have the maturity to accept an adopted kid with gay parents then thats their problem. I bet you could ask any starving african kid if he wants to be adopted by a normal living gay family the could wouldn't give a crap about them being gay.

You guys really want a kid to starve to death instead of him being adopted by gay couples, fucking sick I tell ya.
My God...you people even have to turn this type of thread into a "bash America" thread, ffs.
I said american parents cause this site is american. If this site was Italian or something I'd say "Italian Parents"

Paranoid american.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6835|'Murka

Missionless wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Missionless wrote:

If the adopted kid gets bullied, the bully need fucking parenting and he probable has that "american mom&dad" and look how well they raise their bully. If your kid does not have the maturity to accept an adopted kid with gay parents then thats their problem. I bet you could ask any starving african kid if he wants to be adopted by a normal living gay family the could wouldn't give a crap about them being gay.

You guys really want a kid to starve to death instead of him being adopted by gay couples, fucking sick I tell ya.
My God...you people even have to turn this type of thread into a "bash America" thread, ffs.
I said american parents cause this site is american. If this site was Italian or something I'd say "Italian Parents"

Paranoid american.
Riiiggghhhhtttt. Because you couldn't have just said "parents" (or, more accurately, "mom&dad")? The thread OP wasn't country-specific, nor is this site.
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sergeriver
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FEOS wrote:

Missionless wrote:

FEOS wrote:


My God...you people even have to turn this type of thread into a "bash America" thread, ffs.
I said american parents cause this site is american. If this site was Italian or something I'd say "Italian Parents"

Paranoid american.
Riiiggghhhhtttt. Because you couldn't have just said "parents" (or, more accurately, "mom&dad")? The thread OP wasn't country-specific, nor is this site.
This is for gays from everywhere, lol.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6835|'Murka

sergeriver wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Missionless wrote:


I said american parents cause this site is american. If this site was Italian or something I'd say "Italian Parents"

Paranoid american.
Riiiggghhhhtttt. Because you couldn't have just said "parents" (or, more accurately, "mom&dad")? The thread OP wasn't country-specific, nor is this site.
This is for gays from everywhere, lol.
Well played.
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Megalomaniac
Formerly known as Missionless
+92|6752|105 RVK

FEOS wrote:

Missionless wrote:

FEOS wrote:


My God...you people even have to turn this type of thread into a "bash America" thread, ffs.
I said american parents cause this site is american. If this site was Italian or something I'd say "Italian Parents"

Paranoid american.
Riiiggghhhhtttt. Because you couldn't have just said "parents" (or, more accurately, "mom&dad")? The thread OP wasn't country-specific, nor is this site.
http://geotool.servehttp.com/?ip=66.221 … s.bf2s.com

The server, to be so anally specific for you, is in the United States of America. If this SERVER was Italian or something I'd say "Italian Parents"
unnamednewbie13
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+2,072|7196|PNW

The better question should be: 'do you agree with gay couples adopting kids.' As to the actual question, it's gotta be better than turning into a potbellied starveling.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-05-08 17:08:07)

Zukabazuka
Member
+23|7109
So what is a Real Life family life then? Because a lot families are different than yours. But the couple needs to be stable for sure. We had a case here in sweden where a family had adopted one child and 8 months later it died of wounds over the time and something else i forgot. They just got tired of the kid =/.

At least they give a child a chance to live a better life.
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6804|MN

FallenMorgan wrote:

Usually if parents put their kid up for adoption, they wouldn't care if the adoptive parents are gay.
You think they wouldn't care?  Ignorant kid.

If they didn't care about their child or what kind of environment they grew up in they wouldn't put them up for adoption.  In most 3rd world countries it is illegal to abandon your child.  They have to go through a lot just to get them to a safe place where they will be discovered.  If they didn't care they would just kill them for being inconvenient or the wrong gender.

I believe biological parents care very much if the new parents are heterosexual or not.
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FallenMorgan
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+53|6338|Glendale, CA

LividBovine wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:

Usually if parents put their kid up for adoption, they wouldn't care if the adoptive parents are gay.
You think they wouldn't care?  Ignorant kid.

If they didn't care about their child or what kind of environment they grew up in they wouldn't put them up for adoption.  In most 3rd world countries it is illegal to abandon your child.  They have to go through a lot just to get them to a safe place where they will be discovered.  If they didn't care they would just kill them for being inconvenient or the wrong gender.

I believe biological parents care very much if the new parents are heterosexual or not.
Well their opinion doesn't matter.  Just because the parents are bigots doesn't mean the child should have to be stuck in some traditional-ass family.
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6804|MN

FallenMorgan wrote:

LividBovine wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:

Usually if parents put their kid up for adoption, they wouldn't care if the adoptive parents are gay.
You think they wouldn't care?  Ignorant kid.

If they didn't care about their child or what kind of environment they grew up in they wouldn't put them up for adoption.  In most 3rd world countries it is illegal to abandon your child.  They have to go through a lot just to get them to a safe place where they will be discovered.  If they didn't care they would just kill them for being inconvenient or the wrong gender.

I believe biological parents care very much if the new parents are heterosexual or not.
Well their opinion doesn't matter.  Just because the parents are bigots doesn't mean the child should have to be stuck in some traditional-ass family.
You said they wouldn't care, I said they would.  Case closed.

As far as it being ok.  Yes it is OK.  The conditions that these children are coming from far outweighs any feelings I have about homosexuality.  They are more likely to lead a happy fullfilling life being adopted by any solid family.  I strongly prefer a traditional family though.
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Megalomaniac
Formerly known as Missionless
+92|6752|105 RVK
^^^

You need to go to a orphans home where kids give you stuff worth loads to them just so you give them attention. Fight to play football with you and tell you that your their best friend after knowing them for 2 days. Then maybe you wouldn't really be such a picky person if a homosexual or a heterosexual adopts the kid. As long as it has mentally sane parenting I think kids should be offered a better life.
Schittloaf
not fulla schit
+23|6327|MN
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6804|MN

Missionless wrote:

^^^

You need to go to a orphans home where kids give you stuff worth loads to them just so you give them attention. Fight to play football with you and tell you that your their best friend after knowing them for 2 days. Then maybe you wouldn't really be such a picky person if a homosexual or a heterosexual adopts the kid. As long as it has mentally sane parenting I think kids should be offered a better life.
You're right I do need to do that.  lol.

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LividBovine wrote:

The conditions that these children are coming from far outweighs any feelings I have about homosexuality.
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6829|North Carolina

Schittloaf wrote:

Great camp....  It shows you how people back then (and even today) seem to confuse homosexuality with pedophilia.
Megalomaniac
Formerly known as Missionless
+92|6752|105 RVK

Turquoise wrote:

Schittloaf wrote:

Great camp....  It shows you how people back then (and even today) seem to confuse homosexuality with pedophilia.
Back then homosexuality was considered a mental illness. Very funny to watch these statements today

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