BF2S Forums Feds arrest illegal immigrants who are trying to leave USA

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

ATG wrote:

I don't care what you say Scorpian, I'm not hear to debate this issue with you, I am doing one micro small part in getting people aware. I will not stop making threads about illegal aliens from Mexico, ever, until the issue is dealt with, or I get banned.

This is Debate and Serious Talk - if you don't want to debate it, then why post it?

ATG wrote:

You are also from the U.K. , which has it's own very large illegal immigration issue. So frankly, these threads aren't made with you in mind. You might even consider the fact that I find your opinion on this matter to be irrelevant. Feel free to post whatever you want, and state your views. Just know I rank you up there with Rammunition.

Surely the fact the we, the UK, also have an illegal immigrant issue makes my opinions all the more pertinent?

And I just don't get your dislike of me. Is it that I question your opinion? Or merely that I have a different opinion to you?

It may surprise you, but I understand your point of view. Just as I understand the views of people in the UK who hold very similar views to you about our illegal immigrants.

I also don't deny that a problem exists.

But, once again, the problem is that our current systems, and attitudes, don't work. Border control doesn't work.

The planet as whole is more than capable of supporting mankind as a whole (as long as we don't get much bigger) - but in order to make that happen we are going to have to dissolve our borders and learn to think of 'home' as Earth, not our country, state, house, or whatever.

What say we all just stop shitting all over the place, and pissing all our planet-mates off?

And by that I mean everyone - I think we in the west bear a huge responsibility - we are in the position to make this 'utopia' a reality instead of sticking with our old, bad, habits - but, this is something that human-kind as a whole must 'take ownership of' - what could 6billion minds all working in the same direction achieve, compared to 6billion pulling in different directions?

To quote Lennon, "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope someday you'll join us. And the world will be as one".

Kmarion wrote:

If they can't get back over the border they can't resupply. We also seem to turn our heads when it comes to Americans and their dependency on the illegals supplying their habit. It's a little different when you have to blame yourself instead of a GWB or Pelosi.

Sorry.. but it's an obvious big part of the problem. Some Mexicans enter with no desire to stay or take jobs.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

According to the liberals the US would collapse without the illegals here doing the work lazy ass Americans won't do, so of course we can't let them leave the US.

But, it's more or less true. Perhaps it wasn't a few decades ago, but today... (same goes for over here and Polish people)

Alaska, Montana, Hawaii, and the other states without all the illegals must be about ready to fold now...  ( doh )

Kmarion wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

This is Debate and Serious Talk - if you don't want to debate it, then why post it?

The original debate:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Well, at least this may brighten your day just a little.

Judge tells defendants: Learn English or go to jail

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 … s-def.html

Marinejuana wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

ATG wrote:

I don't care what you say Scorpian, I'm not hear to debate this issue with you, I am doing one micro small part in getting people aware. I will not stop making threads about illegal aliens from Mexico, ever, until the issue is dealt with, or I get banned.

This is Debate and Serious Talk - if you don't want to debate it, then why post it?

ATG wrote:

You are also from the U.K. , which has it's own very large illegal immigration issue. So frankly, these threads aren't made with you in mind. You might even consider the fact that I find your opinion on this matter to be irrelevant. Feel free to post whatever you want, and state your views. Just know I rank you up there with Rammunition.

Surely the fact the we, the UK, also have an illegal immigrant issue makes my opinions all the more pertinent?

And I just don't get your dislike of me. Is it that I question your opinion? Or merely that I have a different opinion to you?

It may surprise you, but I understand your point of view. Just as I understand the views of people in the UK who hold very similar views to you about our illegal immigrants.

I also don't deny that a problem exists.

But, once again, the problem is that our current systems, and attitudes, don't work. Border control doesn't work.

The planet as whole is more than capable of supporting mankind as a whole (as long as we don't get much bigger) - but in order to make that happen we are going to have to dissolve our borders and learn to think of 'home' as Earth, not our country, state, house, or whatever.

What say we all just stop shitting all over the place, and pissing all our planet-mates off?

And by that I mean everyone - I think we in the west bear a huge responsibility - we are in the position to make this 'utopia' a reality instead of sticking with our old, bad, habits - but, this is something that human-kind as a whole must 'take ownership of' - what could 6billion minds all working in the same direction achieve, compared to 6billion pulling in different directions?

To quote Lennon, "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope someday you'll join us. And the world will be as one".

All the movements you hear for globalism, though attractive on several points, are just Trojan horses for corporations which know that they already have all the political power, but only stand to gain more legitimate means for military occupation and open trade/exploitation for corporations. National sovereignty directly contradicts their interests. Global humanitarianism or whatever you're describing and Globalism as it is penned by the UN and world banks are about as related as the connection between Marxism and communism. At a glance, they would seem like the same movement, but in reality, one is a false revolution designed to undermine and exploit the concepts of the former. Globalism does not distribute wealth and power, it further centralizes it. If you let a country flood with poor immigrants, you just spread poverty and weaken the political power of a nation, making everything cheaper on the elite market. Soon we will all be ruled by some iteration of the UN. The idea is that we will be poor enough to not have a choice. Sort of like the New Deal, let's just hope its not a Great Leap Forward.