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2008-05-12 12:32:48
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6820|UK

ghettoperson wrote:

Fuck LGA1160 then. How many times more expensive is LGA1366 going to be? Why can't they just keep it all to one socket, and make cheaper un-OCable chips?

Thinking about it though, that'd make sense with two sockets. That way, they can force mobo manufacturers to make mobos for LGA1160 that have a fixed FSB.

Nessie09 wrote:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-No-Overclocking-for-Mainstream-Nehalems-84019.shtml wrote:

While Intel is stripping down overclocking features, AMD is working to enhance the potential of its processors, and rumor has it that the upcoming Deneb processors will be extremely friendly to the users who plan to squeeze extra performance.
So maybe this is not the end for AMD yet...
If they start making some decent chips that OC well, Intel can get fucked.
Be kinda strange though that if AMD made gains due to this, it wasnt because of some wonder part they built, but intel shooting themself in the foot.  Then again, us gamers are nothing to them, it's all OEM orders and the like that dictate the market rather than fucking crysis.

Martyn
2008-05-12 12:34:08
ghettoperson
Member
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PBAsydney wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Fuck LGA1160 then. How many times more expensive is LGA1366 going to be? Why can't they just keep it all to one socket, and make cheaper un-OCable chips?

Thinking about it though, that'd make sense with two sockets. That way, they can force mobo manufacturers to make mobos for LGA1160 that have a fixed FSB.

Nessie09 wrote:


So maybe this is not the end for AMD yet...
If they start making some decent chips that OC well, Intel can get fucked.
The 7% overclock that they made with this new fancy technology doesn't impress me and my 43% overclocked E6600
Hence why I said decent chips that OC well. And frankly, if they kick the shit out of the Intel chips then they don't even need to OC that well. Remember only a few years ago where a couple of hundred Mhz increase was a great OC?
2008-05-12 13:02:07
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


Mr. cool P4, if you please.
You wish.
I'd like to see your puny stock cooler handle 150w of pure heat and keep the source under 60C.
Comparing a P4 to an e8400 is like comparing a Toyota Yaris to a Nissan Skyline, Your argument is useless.
2008-05-12 13:14:25
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6820|UK

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:


You wish.
I'd like to see your puny stock cooler handle 150w of pure heat and keep the source under 60C.
Comparing a P4 to an e8400 is like comparing a Toyota Yaris to a Nissan Skyline, Your argument is useless.
I'd kick your ass in a yaris pal   Gimme some liquid nitrogen
2008-05-12 13:20:22
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6685|Finland

Bell wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


I'd like to see your puny stock cooler handle 150w of pure heat and keep the source under 60C.
Comparing a P4 to an e8400 is like comparing a Toyota Yaris to a Nissan Skyline, Your argument is useless.
I'd kick your ass in a yaris pal   Gimme some liquid nitrogen
therre you go

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2008-05-12 13:24:21
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
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Is it burning or cooling?
2008-05-12 13:36:51
Brasso
member
+1,549|6901

fuck me.
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2008-05-12 13:37:47
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7114|Reykjavík, Iceland.

haffeysucks wrote:

fuck me.
Your place or mine?
2008-05-12 13:38:40
Gooners
Wiki Contributor
+2,700|6903

PBAsydney wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

fuck me.
Your place or mine?
Mine - Threesome
2008-05-12 13:40:37
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7114|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Gooners wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

fuck me.
Your place or mine?
Mine - Threesome
w00t
2008-05-12 13:41:01
Gooners
Wiki Contributor
+2,700|6903

PBAsydney wrote:

Gooners wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:


Your place or mine?
Mine - Threesome
w00t
You bring the lube.
2008-05-12 13:42:39
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7114|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Gooners wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

Gooners wrote:

Mine - Threesome
w00t
You bring the lube.
Dibs for being in the middle.

Last edited by PBAsydney (2008-05-12 13:42:51)

2008-05-12 13:49:57
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6468|Winland

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:


You wish.
I'd like to see your puny stock cooler handle 150w of pure heat and keep the source under 60C.
Comparing a P4 to an e8400 is like comparing a Toyota Yaris to a Nissan Skyline, Your argument is useless.
We're not, we're comparing coolers. I'd like to see your gay little stock cooler handle my beasty 150w TDP.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-05-12 13:50:42
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6685|Finland

Freezer7Pro wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


I'd like to see your puny stock cooler handle 150w of pure heat and keep the source under 60C.
Comparing a P4 to an e8400 is like comparing a Toyota Yaris to a Nissan Skyline, Your argument is useless.
We're not, we're comparing coolers. I'd like to see your gay little stock cooler handle my beasty 150w TDP.
barbeque anyone?
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2008-05-12 13:51:59
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
Big Mouth Prick
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I'd like to see your puny stock cooler handle 150w of pure heat and keep the source under 60C.
Comparing a P4 to an e8400 is like comparing a Toyota Yaris to a Nissan Skyline, Your argument is useless.
We're not, we're comparing coolers. I'd like to see your gay little stock cooler handle my beasty 150w TDP.
You wouldnt have 150w TDP if you weren't such a lazy fuck and get of your ass and get a job, no instead you choose on having more crap in your room than the total population of Finland.

Last edited by _NL_Lt.EngineerFox (2008-05-12 13:52:17)

2008-05-12 13:53:33
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6685|Finland

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:


Comparing a P4 to an e8400 is like comparing a Toyota Yaris to a Nissan Skyline, Your argument is useless.
We're not, we're comparing coolers. I'd like to see your gay little stock cooler handle my beasty 150w TDP.
You wouldnt have 150w TDP if you weren't such a lazy fuck and get of your ass and get a job, no instead you choose on having more crap in your room than the total population of Finland.
And my overclocked Q6600 was 150w.
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2008-05-12 13:54:32
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
Big Mouth Prick
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


We're not, we're comparing coolers. I'd like to see your gay little stock cooler handle my beasty 150w TDP.
You wouldnt have 150w TDP if you weren't such a lazy fuck and get of your ass and get a job, no instead you choose on having more crap in your room than the total population of Finland.
And my overclocked Q6600 was 150w.
You can not compare a Q6600 to a P4, your argument is useles.
2008-05-12 13:55:04
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6685|Finland

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

You wouldnt have 150w TDP if you weren't such a lazy fuck and get of your ass and get a job, no instead you choose on having more crap in your room than the total population of Finland.
And my overclocked Q6600 was 150w.
You can not compare a Q6600 to a P4, your argument is useles.
I'm NOT COMPARING CPUs damnit.... coolers

and they both made same amount of heat

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-05-12 13:55:46)

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2008-05-12 13:55:56
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6468|Winland

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:


You wouldnt have 150w TDP if you weren't such a lazy fuck and get of your ass and get a job, no instead you choose on having more crap in your room than the total population of Finland.
And my overclocked Q6600 was 150w.
You can not compare a Q6600 to a P4, your argument is useles.
No, because if I was rich, I might get a Q6600 and clock it to 150w TDP.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-05-12 13:57:48
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
Big Mouth Prick
+219|6801|Golf 1.8 GTI Wolfsburg Edition

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:


And my overclocked Q6600 was 150w.
You can not compare a Q6600 to a P4, your argument is useles.
I'm NOT COMPARING CPUs damnit.... coolers

and they both made same amount of heat
Well where in your statement do you mention CPU coolers!

Piont is:
With overclocking disabled in future hardware. risks of destroying your PC is minimal and saves money and energy.
2008-05-12 13:59:22
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6685|Finland

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

You can not compare a Q6600 to a P4, your argument is useles.
I'm NOT COMPARING CPUs damnit.... coolers

and they both made same amount of heat
Well where in your statement do you mention CPU coolers!

Piont is:
With overclocking disabled in future hardware. risks of destroying your PC is minimal and saves money and energy.
150w heat done by P4 is same amount of heat as 150w done by Q6600. understand?

and it doesn't save my money if I have to buy 200€ more expensive cpu or something when I could have overclocked a slightly slower one.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-05-12 14:00:35)

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2008-05-12 13:59:58
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6468|Winland

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

You can not compare a Q6600 to a P4, your argument is useles.
I'm NOT COMPARING CPUs damnit.... coolers

and they both made same amount of heat
Well where in your statement do you mention CPU coolers!
He didn't, he mentioned TDP. Where did he mention CPU efficiency?

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:


I'm NOT COMPARING CPUs damnit.... coolers

and they both made same amount of heat
Well where in your statement do you mention CPU coolers!

Piont is:
With overclocking disabled in future hardware. risks of destroying your PC is minimal and saves money and energy.
150w heat dome by P4 is same amount of heat as 150w doem by Q6600. understand?

and it doesn't save my money if I have to buy 200€ more expensive cpu or something when I could have overclocked a slightly slower one.
True, jsut look at the 8400/8500. The 8500 is $100 more for 160MHz.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-05-12 14:01:05)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-05-12 14:01:11
Brasso
member
+1,549|6901

PBAsydney wrote:

Gooners wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

w00t
You bring the lube.
Dibs for being in the middle.
whoa jesus, i mean fuck me as in fuck everything

creepy bastards

Last edited by haffeysucks (2008-05-12 14:01:21)

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2008-05-12 14:03:35
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I'm NOT COMPARING CPUs damnit.... coolers

and they both made same amount of heat
Well where in your statement do you mention CPU coolers!

Piont is:
With overclocking disabled in future hardware. risks of destroying your PC is minimal and saves money and energy.
150w heat done by P4 is same amount of heat as 150w done by Q6600. understand?

and it doesn't save my money if I have to buy 200€ more expensive cpu or something when I could have overclocked a slightly slower one.
it's not that Intel focusus on overclockers and gamers but more on OEM partners like Dell and HP. Dell doesn't give a shit about a slightly faster of slower CPU, aslong as they know it sells to the ones that want to buy a computer where no overclocking is required (example: offices)

Last edited by _NL_Lt.EngineerFox (2008-05-12 14:04:15)

2008-05-12 14:05:22
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6685|Finland

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:


Well where in your statement do you mention CPU coolers!

Piont is:
With overclocking disabled in future hardware. risks of destroying your PC is minimal and saves money and energy.
150w heat done by P4 is same amount of heat as 150w done by Q6600. understand?

and it doesn't save my money if I have to buy 200€ more expensive cpu or something when I could have overclocked a slightly slower one.
it's not that Intel focusus on overclockers and gamers but more on OEM partners like Dell and HP. Dell doesn't give a shit about a slightly faster of slower CPU, aslong as they know it sells to the ones that want to buy a computer where no overclocking is required (example: offices)
yeah. sucks2b us.
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