BF2S Forums Way to work for peace asshole

Because peace talks ordinarily go so well?

Megalomaniac wrote:

........They should never have gotten that country in the first place, only reason they got it was cause Hitler killed so many Jews.

The UN probably didn't help any by dividing the state and the people. Who knows what might of happen if there was no half states between jews and arabs. At the way things have trangressed, there will be no peace. Sorry to sound skeptical

loubot wrote:

Megalomaniac wrote:

........They should never have gotten that country in the first place, only reason they got it was cause Hitler killed so many Jews.

The UN probably didn't help any by dividing the state and the people. Who knows what might of happen if there was no half states between jews and arabs. At the way things have trangressed, there will be no peace. Sorry to sound skeptical

I seriously want to see what israel would be without their alliance with USA. Its keeping many countries away from destroying that nation

Megalomaniac wrote:

How about we Icelandic people just take half of Argentina, demolish your house and if you don't agree to leave to make room for Icelandic people moving there then we will just kill you.

And then we would have some big ass country backing us up meaning we are untouchable and we do whatever we feel like doing. Shoot some Argentinians, just cause we can.

Yea, that would sound something similar to what Israel is doing. They should never have gotten that country in the first place, only reason they got it was cause Hitler killed so many Jews.

Easy pal, I support a Palestinian country.  Read my older posts.  But this is not helping the situation for them.  Diplomacy is the only way to achieve peace, and saying that the creation of Israel was a catastrophe, even if it's true, it's wrong and idiotic.

rammunition wrote:

It IS catastrophic the way Israel was founded

This how white people tend to roll
1. Move into land
2. Kill/manipulate its people
3. ?????
4. Profit

rammunition wrote:

The way Israel was found IS catastrophic, mass immigration of millions of Europeans in this land, the name is disputed but was part of the ottoman empire. 60 years ago the Israelis were in the process of destroying 435 Arab villages and towns. In a one-year period in 1948-1949 they wiped out over 400 Arab villages, either killing all the inhabitants or driving them off their land. They then either demolished the houses or took them over for Jewish use. This was exactly 60 years ago.

It IS catastrophic the way Israel was founded

We all know what the Palestinians have to suffer, but you need to be diplomatic if you are having peace talks.

sergeriver wrote:

Megalomaniac wrote:

How about we Icelandic people just take half of Argentina, demolish your house and if you don't agree to leave to make room for Icelandic people moving there then we will just kill you.

And then we would have some big ass country backing us up meaning we are untouchable and we do whatever we feel like doing. Shoot some Argentinians, just cause we can.

Yea, that would sound something similar to what Israel is doing. They should never have gotten that country in the first place, only reason they got it was cause Hitler killed so many Jews.

Easy pal, I support a Palestinian country.  Read my older posts.  But this is not helping the situation for them.  Diplomacy is the only way to achieve peace, and saying that the creation of Israel was a catastrophe, even if it's true, it's wrong and idiotic.

It's called 'politics' Serge, plain and simple. he's addressing his people so he can't say 'happy birthday Israel', now can he?

But I agree, one has to accept the situation as it is at this moment, and don't linger in the past. The problem is there are too many different factions (political and military) within the Palestinian movement to make a global stand towards Israel/US, and killing innocent people ad random isn't helping either.

sergeriver wrote:

rammunition wrote:

The way Israel was found IS catastrophic, mass immigration of millions of Europeans in this land, the name is disputed but was part of the ottoman empire. 60 years ago the Israelis were in the process of destroying 435 Arab villages and towns. In a one-year period in 1948-1949 they wiped out over 400 Arab villages, either killing all the inhabitants or driving them off their land. They then either demolished the houses or took them over for Jewish use. This was exactly 60 years ago.

It IS catastrophic the way Israel was founded

We all know what the Palestinians have to suffer, but you need to be diplomatic if you are having peace talks.

there will be no peace until America buts out and stops supporting Israel, its the right wing religious nutjobs in the west who are the main problem.

For peace Israel has to

1. Stop all illegal settlements
2. return all occupied land to owners
3. most important END THE OCCUPATION

the Palestinians have to stop home made rockets but when they call a ceasefire and are on one, Israel for some reason takes part in "military operation" in gaza causing more bloodshed and problems.



The ball still remains in Israel court and has done so for decades, it will not remain there forever

rammunition wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

rammunition wrote:

The way Israel was found IS catastrophic, mass immigration of millions of Europeans in this land, the name is disputed but was part of the ottoman empire. 60 years ago the Israelis were in the process of destroying 435 Arab villages and towns. In a one-year period in 1948-1949 they wiped out over 400 Arab villages, either killing all the inhabitants or driving them off their land. They then either demolished the houses or took them over for Jewish use. This was exactly 60 years ago.

It IS catastrophic the way Israel was founded

We all know what the Palestinians have to suffer, but you need to be diplomatic if you are having peace talks.

there will be no peace until America buts out and stops supporting Israel, its the right wing religious nutjobs in the west who are the main problem.

For peace Israel has to

1. Stop all illegal settlements
2. return all occupied land to owners
3. most important END THE OCCUPATION

the Palestinians have to stop home made rockets but when they call a ceasefire and are on one, Israel for some reason takes part in "military operation" in gaza causing more bloodshed and problems.



The ball still remains in Israel court and has done so for decades, it will not remain there forever

Both sides need to end this BS asap.  Period.

Said about Jerusalem "Who have claim, non have claim, all have claim" & "It means nothing ... it means everything"

Great lines from one of my fav movies ...

@OP: Great diplomatic thread title ...

Dilbert_X wrote:

Are you new on the forums?  I posted more threads against Israel than anyone in here, but I don't understand what benefits will bring to Palestine making such statement.

They make it every year, why shouldn't they?
Playing nice hasn't helped them in the past in so-called peace talks, they should say what they like.

Playing hard hasn't helped them either.

Last edited by sergeriver (2008-05-15 07:14:53)

Dilbert_X wrote:

Playing hard hasn't help them either.

Playing anything hasn't helped, Israel has no intention of making peace until it has expelled every Palestinian from Palestine - and probably not even then.
We hear endlessly of the suffering of the jews, we don't hear enough about the Palestinians.

Jewish people have been persecuted since always, the Holocaust took place less than a century ago and it sucks, but taking it on the Palestinians is so unfair.  Sadly, both sides have the wrong attitude.