I'll have to agree. The people on Dr. Phil this morning took it too far. A 12 year old got spanked at school by a 6', 380 pound teacher, and he ended up having bruises, bursted blood vessels, etc, on his fat ass. He had ADHD. He was emotionally disturbed, had to be homeschooled, and seems to be resentful of his mother, for allowing the fat bastard to slap the shit out of his ass.SenorToenails wrote:
I agree with Mek and Turq on this. Some kids need it, as long as it doesn't cross that thin line and become abuse. I was spanked a few times when I was younger, and I don't fear my parents. Nor did I ever think I should.In the words of Marge Simpson: "That sounds like a lie!"FallenMorgan wrote:
If I was left alone with children I'd probably cause them to be mentally disturbed.
I blame TV.
And Rock music.
And those new-fangled mobile phone things.
And Rock music.
And those new-fangled mobile phone things.
I was smacked (spanked) as a kid, and I'm fine, I know my parents are caring and loving and I love them, very much. I will smack my kids if they step out of line. I only every got smacked on the bum and that's all that will happen to them. It works. And fear? Ofcourse there's fear that's the point.
"Hmm, if I be a pain in the arse I am going to get smacked, I'm scared of being smacked because I don't like it, I'm gonna behave"
"Hmm, if I be a pain in the arse I am going to get smacked, I'm scared of being smacked because I don't like it, I'm gonna behave"
Hypothetical situation:Adams_BJ wrote:
I was smacked (spanked) as a kid, and I'm fine, I know my parents are caring and loving and I love them, very much. I will smack my kids if they step out of line. I only every got smacked on the bum and that's all that will happen to them. It works. And fear? Ofcourse there's fear that's the point.
"Hmm, if I be a pain in the arse I am going to get smacked, I'm scared of being smacked because I don't like it, I'm gonna behave"
You believe your child has done something that deserves a spanking.
Your child denies any responsibility and bursts into tears saying "It wasn't me. I haven't done anything."
Do you spank them?
teachers/school administrators have nearly no excuse to ever touch a kid.
having said that
Spanking can be a very valuable tool in a parent's arsenal of development. When done correctly it's a sort of forced meditation, bringing focus to an ill tempered child. Parents need to understand that it's not about their emotion, it's not about leaving bruises or scars, physical or othewise.
most kids today are rotten little fucks that could use a light but terse beating.
having said that
Spanking can be a very valuable tool in a parent's arsenal of development. When done correctly it's a sort of forced meditation, bringing focus to an ill tempered child. Parents need to understand that it's not about their emotion, it's not about leaving bruises or scars, physical or othewise.
most kids today are rotten little fucks that could use a light but terse beating.
It should only be done by the parent /guardian, of course. My cousins are in the babysitting business at the minute, and currently they take a class of about twenty 3-5 year olds. Not only are they allowed to hit them in any manner, but they are not allowed to use words such as "naughty" and "mean", but "sad" and "unhappy".
Regarding the spanking issue - I think UK laws still state that it is okay as long as it does not leave a mark and you have good intention. I think this is a pretty fair way - however, you won't know how hard to hit them for the first time - will you? So there's a lot of give-or-take error.
Regarding the spanking issue - I think UK laws still state that it is okay as long as it does not leave a mark and you have good intention. I think this is a pretty fair way - however, you won't know how hard to hit them for the first time - will you? So there's a lot of give-or-take error.
Beating a child severely and causing physical harm is NOT SPANKING. You can call it spanking but its not.
Spanking (when done right) is not about causing pain to a child. Its about establishing the hierarchy in the family. All mammals do this. Dont forget that we have evolved from lesser species and we (humans) are still very much influenced by our "primal instincts". Slightly spanking the child is very effective.
Spanking (when done right) is not about causing pain to a child. Its about establishing the hierarchy in the family. All mammals do this. Dont forget that we have evolved from lesser species and we (humans) are still very much influenced by our "primal instincts". Slightly spanking the child is very effective.
Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Some kids are fucking pricks that need to be taught a lesson.
um if the child don't get hurt a bit he will not learn from it. He will think like this. "Oh if I do that again I'll only be spanked very lightly and it doesn't hurt at all so what's there to be afraid of?"zeidmaan wrote:
Beating a child severely and causing physical harm is NOT SPANKING. You can call it spanking but its not.
Spanking (when done right) is not about causing pain to a child. Its about establishing the hierarchy in the family. All mammals do this. Dont forget that we have evolved from lesser species and we (humans) are still very much influenced by our "primal instincts". Slightly spanking the child is very effective.
Now I dunno what you think spanking is but it's suposed to at least hurt a bit. Well not like beating the crap out of your kid but it should hurt.
Words don't always reach to a kid and I have seen this because my big sister got a kid which actually is a bit of a trouble maker.
Im a parent. I spank when I feel it is necessary. If you think its right or wrong I will value your opinion either way but if you are not a parent then you should have none.
Malloy must go
Spanking is psychological as much as physical. Of course the child will feel some pain, but it doesnt have to hurt enough for the kid to be scared of more pain. Because its not just about pain. Its the act of punishment that has the impact on the kid and sadly physical punishment will have more psychological effect than grounding the child or taking away his xbox. It only has to be done occasionally and the child will respect the authority of the parents.Zefar wrote:
um if the child don't get hurt a bit he will not learn from it. He will think like this. "Oh if I do that again I'll only be spanked very lightly and it doesn't hurt at all so what's there to be afraid of?"zeidmaan wrote:
Beating a child severely and causing physical harm is NOT SPANKING. You can call it spanking but its not.
Spanking (when done right) is not about causing pain to a child. Its about establishing the hierarchy in the family. All mammals do this. Dont forget that we have evolved from lesser species and we (humans) are still very much influenced by our "primal instincts". Slightly spanking the child is very effective.
Now I dunno what you think spanking is but it's suposed to at least hurt a bit. Well not like beating the crap out of your kid but it should hurt.
Words don't always reach to a kid and I have seen this because my big sister got a kid which actually is a bit of a trouble maker.
I was spanked as a kid, and it works.
When I have kids I will spank them also. I'm not talking about beating or actually injuring them, that's not the same thing. A few smacks on the bottom however will work.
They're kids, they don't really understand why certain things are wrong, but getting them to behave through fear of a spanking will pull them into line until they're mature enough to understand their actions.
When I have kids I will spank them also. I'm not talking about beating or actually injuring them, that's not the same thing. A few smacks on the bottom however will work.
They're kids, they don't really understand why certain things are wrong, but getting them to behave through fear of a spanking will pull them into line until they're mature enough to understand their actions.
i was spanked when i was a child and i dont think it has affected me
i know when i have children they will be spanked too
not cause i need to be a bastard but i think that the world today is fucked up because of political correctness and all that bullshit
if people realised that if they done bad there will be repercusions and by saying that i dont mean getting a fucking slap on the wrist by the courts i think the world would be a better place...end rant
where were we????ohh yes boobies
i know when i have children they will be spanked too
not cause i need to be a bastard but i think that the world today is fucked up because of political correctness and all that bullshit
if people realised that if they done bad there will be repercusions and by saying that i dont mean getting a fucking slap on the wrist by the courts i think the world would be a better place...end rant
where were we????ohh yes boobies
Apparently the rule of thumb is still alive and well for some children. Personally, I've never understood how violence is supposed to instil confidence and trust in the guidance of the parent. I've always been of the opinion that trust in guidance is a better deterrent than fear of repercussion.
I was spanked with a hand made wooden paddle and it hurt like hell, but I was only spanked twice with it in the 10 years it has been in our house. I am obviously too old now for to be effective 17years but that means I behaved myself. Controlled pain to discipline I believe is the fastest way to teach a young child to behave.
your parents failed you in instilling the social skills needed to function in a modern society. they should be arrested.FallenMorgan wrote:
I was once maybe at ten years old or around there.God Save the Queen wrote:
from reading your posts, fallenmorgan, you could tell you never were.
Easy, if you know the kid did it, and it warrants a smacking, give him one on the arse, and make it extra good for lying to you.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Hypothetical situation:Adams_BJ wrote:
I was smacked (spanked) as a kid, and I'm fine, I know my parents are caring and loving and I love them, very much. I will smack my kids if they step out of line. I only every got smacked on the bum and that's all that will happen to them. It works. And fear? Ofcourse there's fear that's the point.
"Hmm, if I be a pain in the arse I am going to get smacked, I'm scared of being smacked because I don't like it, I'm gonna behave"
You believe your child has done something that deserves a spanking.
Your child denies any responsibility and bursts into tears saying "It wasn't me. I haven't done anything."
Do you spank them?
If you don't know, tell them if you find out later on and it became apparent they lied to you, they will be punished (old fashion bluff my parents use to use to get me to confess).
again, how about those of us (e.g. me) who weren't spanked but ended up pretty decent? Exceptions to the rule? Did our parents know how to parent us without spanking?
my grandma would grab the nearest twig or branch from a tree
Spanking is something that should be used very sparingly. The problem you probably get is lazy parents doing it by default. Every time I was spanked as a kid tied back to an important life lesson.
I don't believe in schools doing it.
I don't believe in schools doing it.
Did these things affect your kids.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
I blame TV.
And Rock music.
And those new-fangled mobile phone things.
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I don't think spanking works. There is no reason for it to work, except as a deterrent and in that case only for really quite young children. There are many other far more compelling ways of getting kids to behave. For me the best motivations to behave well have always been social and financial - not physical.
I was spanked as a child and all it ever did was make me moody, bitter and resentful. I would go off sulking and plot some form of revenge, which I would, more often than not, get - and get away with. Certainly in my case, spanking did far more harm than good.
I was spanked as a child and all it ever did was make me moody, bitter and resentful. I would go off sulking and plot some form of revenge, which I would, more often than not, get - and get away with. Certainly in my case, spanking did far more harm than good.
Does anyone else feel strange about hitting their daughter?
I say this hypothetically.
I say this hypothetically.
Thats the mothers job aint it? Get her to clock the kid with a wooden spoon.Laura wrote:
Does anyone else feel strange about hitting their daughter?
I say this hypothetically.
Dont leave a mark or Bob will kick yo' ass!
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Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
when i was about 9 ( i was very tall for my age and lanky)
i decided if i ever got spanked by my mother again i would do it back 2wice as hard.
and i did.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
she never did it again and i made her cry
i think spanking should be allowed and mandatory parenting classes at community colleges and stuff, free of charge. or something like that
and bring back the cane in schools
i decided if i ever got spanked by my mother again i would do it back 2wice as hard.
and i did.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
she never did it again and i made her cry
i think spanking should be allowed and mandatory parenting classes at community colleges and stuff, free of charge. or something like that
and bring back the cane in schools
Wait when your mother hit you....its was unacceptable. But you advocate spanking, boring lessons and the cane?Nappy wrote:
when i was about 9 ( i was very tall for my age and lanky)
i decided if i ever got spanked by my mother again i would do it back 2wice as hard.
and i did.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
she never did it again and i made her cry
i think spanking should be allowed and mandatory parenting classes at community colleges and stuff, free of charge. or something like that
and bring back the cane in schools
Oh and you hero you. You mother went through enough pain shitting you out, so you could at least let her twat you once in a while when you misbehaved.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.