BF2S Forums Neil Peart, Genius.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Intelligence does not necessarily denote correctness, the smarter people are the better they are at rationalizing, and being extremely stubborn in their ill-gotten beliefs. I refer you to my sig.

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Turquoise wrote:

You're really desperate to defend the actions of child molesters, aren't you?

Look, I know we have a rather volatile disagreement on this issue, ATG, but using random banterings by talented (but apparently misguided) musicians doesn't really solidify your point of view.

The point is this...  Times change, and people must adapt.  Outdated beliefs should not be defended when they cross lines that have been determined as unacceptable by proper society.  It is no longer acceptable to have multiple wives, and there are a lot of practical and psychological reasons for not allowing it.  There are also a myriad of reasons not to allow grown men in their 30s and 40s the legal ability to knock up 14 year olds or to molest their male peers.

So, no...  your post does not validate the FLDS anymore than the ramblings of radical Imams validate Wahhabism as an acceptable ideology for subduing Western, free societies with.

There are certain lines that must be drawn when it comes to the freedom of religion, because too many things in the past have been allowed to go on with the convenient excuse of "but it's part of my religion."  Child molestation is but one of them (which the Catholic Church also needs to deal with or face more investigations and more embarrassment), and we both know of the most extreme cases of abuse that occur in the Islamic World under the guise of Sharia Law.

ReTox wrote:

Peart = Pwn all drummers who have come before.   The man is a fucking god amongst men.

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ghettoperson wrote:

Neil Pert is a fucking amazing drummer, but that doesn't mean that his insane religious beliefs mean anything.

PS. Mike Portnoy is still better.

Turquoise wrote:

ATG wrote:

You're really desperate to paint with a broad brush, aren't you?

Some polygamist are child molesters, most are not.

Tell me, what is the advantage of allowing polygamy?  Have a look at the cultures that currently permit it.  Do you really think that they are pleasant and free nations to live in?

ATG wrote:

Times don't change, people demonstrate a lynch mentality; easily the mob is raised and ever mostly blind in it's wrath.
Child molestation, bah, you are demonstrating a rare sort of ignorance to equate my arguments for religious freedom with advocacy for child molesters.

Your religious freedom ends where rational society begins.  There is nothing rational about indoctrinating children into an isolated community that pretends it's the 1800s.  I'm sorry if you feel that is encroaching upon your religious freedom, but I consider it encroaching upon the delusions of madmen and sparing children from their depradations.

ATG wrote:

My point is, as Mr. Peart points out, the FDLS are the real Mormons. He is generally considered to be a genius, and not just on drums. What are you? What am I?

I'll tell you what you are.  You're someone who needs a random famous person to validate your origins.  You've obviously let your history with this group affect your judgment, and until you realize that, I will continue to browbeat you with it.

Maybe someday you'll realize that you're no longer part of that psychosis that is conveniently referred to as a religion and that you're better off no longer a part of it.  Tormenting yourself over a perceived violation of the freedom of religion does you no good, and it does society no good to permit these cults.  As many others have begrudgingly pointed out here, mainstream society has a way of eventually ending these foolish cults through exposure to all that they are depriving themselves of, so I don't see any problem with accelerating this process if it benefits future generations and eliminates isolated environments that are all too easy for abuses to occur in.

ATG wrote:

Internet squabblers. He's a genius, and he is right.

While it is true that debating on the internet is like the special olympics, I will continue to defend logic in the face of absurdity.

462nd NSP653 wrote:

Only on BF2s.com could you have a thread simultaneously arguing the validity of a religion and it's most righteous founders and who the most righteous rock and/or musical drummer of all time is/was.  God Bless, Chuy...but has it become what you envisioned.

At the OP....ATG, I have to disagree with you... the measure of intelligence does not equate to the measure of validity.  Einstein had as many theories/ideas that were incorrect as he did that were correct.  But then again, he was an alien....and in his day...one of the world's greatest heavy metal drummers!  HA!