Police face questions about heavyhandedness in barrister/shotgun siege

2008-05-19 06:16:12

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7073

Nine police officers shot at barrister Mark Saunders in scenes described today as "like the OK Corral".

Police will now face new questions about why so many opened fire during the Markham Square siege in Chelsea on 6 May.

The 32-year-old was killed after firing a shotgun at members of the public and officers from the windows of his £2.2 million flat.

Mr Saunders, a former member of the Territorial Army, was hit five times by marksmen.

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Hell I don't know, could have been something to do with the whole waving-a-shotgun-out-of-a-window-and-shooting-at-people thing. Sigh.

In other news, the character limit for titles needs to be upped.

2008-05-19 06:20:06

#2

ZombieVampire!: The Gecko; +69|6251

I would have thougt the issue would be if they didn't attempt to resolve the situation peacefully.

But I don't have a clue what happened beyond what was said there.

2008-05-19 06:24:43

#3

S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6870|Chicago, IL

hrm, waving a loaded shotgun at police?

that'd get you the full magazine from about 15 officers around here.

2008-05-19 06:37:12

#4

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7045|London, England

The loon was firing at the public, and at the police. Does it really matter that so many opened fire?

Infact, serious questions would have to be asked if only one officer fired and the rest didn't.

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2008-05-19 06:44:42

#5

S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6870|Chicago, IL

man up England

our police will be carrying M4's soon

Meanwhile, it was announced yesterday that Weis plans to arm and train the city's 13,500 officers with more powerful weapons, including equipping many with M4 carbines to match the firepower of the street gangs they have to face.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/ … ME_4048069

2008-05-19 06:46:26

#6

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7073

In London lots of cops patrol with MP5's.

2008-05-19 06:47:46

#7

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7045|London, England

Does anyone even know what the fuck this guys motive was?

2008-05-19 06:56:17

#8

S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6870|Chicago, IL

Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Does anyone even know what the fuck this guys motive was?

who cares?

you point a gun at police, you die, it's common sense.

2008-05-19 06:58:19

#9

ZombieVampire!: The Gecko; +69|6251

If he was mentally ill then it raises all sorts of issues.

Motive is important.

2008-05-19 06:59:25

#10

S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6870|Chicago, IL

ZombieVampire! wrote:
If he was mentally ill then it raises all sorts of issues.

Motive is important.

a mentally ill person is as capable of firing a weapon as a healthy person.

2008-05-19 06:59:57

#11

ZombieVampire!: The Gecko; +69|6251

Which makes a difference because.............?

2008-05-19 07:02:03

#12

S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6870|Chicago, IL

ZombieVampire! wrote:
Which makes a difference because.............?

does it really matter when the person is firing blindly out of their window?

he shot at police, they shot back.

2008-05-19 07:03:22

#13

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7073

TBH if I'm being shot at I'm not going to take into consideration whether the person is mentally ill or not before shooting back.

2008-05-19 07:05:35

#14

ZombieVampire!: The Gecko; +69|6251

And depending on the situation, I might not either.

S.Lythberg wrote:
ZombieVampire! wrote:
Which makes a difference because.............?
does it really matter when the person is firing blindly out of their window?

he shot at police, they shot back.

And of course the only issue that could possibly exist is what the police did.

It's not like the questions could revolve around why his illness wasn't picked up, or how he got the shotgun.

Ignoring that, if 9 police officers were there it sounds like it'd been happening for a while, which may well mean the area was clear and noone was in immediate danger, therefore allowing police to try other methods, like negotiation.

But as I said, I don't know based on the facts at hand whether any of those are true. It could also be that it was supposed to be the start of the uprising in which case motive is important because it could warn about other similar attacks on the way. Or it could be that neither of those is true. Until we get more information (like his motive) I suppose all we can do is guess.

Last edited by ZombieVampire! (2008-05-19 07:06:59)

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