BF2S Forums Uncap Rape

Mint Sauce wrote:

NUNYA! Bluecow003 wrote:

Mint Sauce wrote:

My view on it is that this game is modelled on a war game, right? So it is supposed to be played as close to "real" war as possible. Not allowing people to attack one base is unrealistic, just because it has a red line through it? And people buy a war game, to experience "virtual war", right? Well, most do.

I will admit, that I don't play Vehicle servers, only Infantry servers, but on most of them, there is a rule enforced not to attack the uncap. BUT, on 6/10 games, if i'm playing with say .Sup or Jamesey or whatever, the USMC team, WILL NOT get out of their base the entire round, and I am not just going to sit at the fucking bottom whilst the pussy ass US players stand there raining down grenades on us, because they KNOW that people can't come up. I always go into the uncap, sit on the hill, and snipe with my AK.. And even in games when the US can get out, there are people who will just sit there and nade, so punishment must be swift..

So, in short, yes, I do uncap rape, because 1) I go where the battle is and 2) If that team does not have the skill, or just plain chooses not to leave the uncap, then they deserve it!

http://battlefield.4players.de/content/images/ak101.jpg

Why not just join the other team and help them win then?  Seems very boring to just sit and watch them in the uncap or snipe at them.  I think it would be more fun to cap some flags.  I must be crazy or something though because obviously it's way better to baserape.

Do you have to argue with everyone's views? You say you're having a discussion, but in reality, you're just trying to force your view on others, adn 'poo-poo' other's views.

And why the fuck would I join the US team if i'm already on the MEC team, i'm not giving up my precious AK!!

/agree,

and we are not obliged to help every noob team there is.Just play the freaking game.

I was just suggesting instead of complaining about a team getting stuck in an uncap, you could try to help balance the teams and join their side.  I just thought that you wanted to have more fun and it appeared from the comments that watching a team sitting in an uncap was not fun.  So I just made a suggestion, which is why I posed my comment in the form of a question, not a demand.

Of course you're not obliged to switch teams.  I just suggested it as a way of making it more interesting than nade spamming or sniping an uncap because there is literally no action anywhere else.

I guess from my playing, I usually find it more fun when the teams are relatively evenly matched and the ticket counts are close.  I merely thought others might agree with me.  But if you want to stay on a dominating side and be bored, you have every right to do that.

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

killer21 wrote:

When I join a game, I usually just stay on the side I am put on, no matter if they are winning or not. 

lol... k

I laughed as well.

Oh yea.  The high w/l ratio...damn, I must switch sides often or something...

Mint Sauce wrote:

Being on the dominating side is not boring..

I concur.

3lmo wrote:

NUNYA! Bluecow003 wrote:

3lmo wrote:

I haven't mentioned your server as gay for once, so where do you get that from? Also, no rules servers need less admins, and to my experience don't really have a bounded clan, so they won't fill the server while it's still empty. As with your server, admins will join to get the server started.

I never said you did, someone else did, but you seemed to both be in agreement that "no rule" servers are the best way to play the game.  See below.

Nothing that responded on the rest of my statement tbh.

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have lumped you in the group of the other quotes.  They seemed to follow in the same line though.  I wasn't really taking issue with your statement, but rather just using it to show that perhaps the servers with rules appear to be more popular because of the fact that they do have rules.  It was responded that servers with rules tend to have clans that support them and can help get them populated.  That's true, but I guess it just shows more that rules are preferred for most people.  If they weren't then there would be more servers without them, right?  If rules are disliked (or rather "gay" rules), wouldn't there be more clans that start servers without them?

And if you guys don't find being on a dominating team boring, then I guess you don't have any problems.  It should give you plenty of opportunity to baserape.  In my opinion, I find it incredibly boring to be on a dominating team, or rather being in matches that the teams are so unbalanced in general.  I don't necessarily care about winning or losing, I'd rather have close matches where you have to try your best.  Even with trying to make sure teams are balanced and matches are close, I still have a 1.52 win/loss ratio (1796/1183).  So you can still have close matches and still win.  You don't need to dominate another team to win.

Last edited by NUNYA! Bluecow003 (2008-05-19 10:52:32)

NUNYA! Bluecow003 wrote:

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have lumped you in the group of the other quotes.  They seemed to follow in the same line though.  I wasn't really taking issue with your statement, but rather just using it to show that perhaps the servers with rules appear to be more popular because of the fact that they do have rules.  It was responded that servers with rules tend to have clans that support them and can help get them populated.  That's true, but I guess it just shows more that rules are preferred for most people.  If they weren't then there would be more servers without them, right?  If rules are disliked (or rather "gay" rules), wouldn't there be more clans that start servers without them?

And if you guys don't find being on a dominating team boring, then I guess you don't have any problems.  It should give you plenty of opportunity to baserape.  In my opinion, I find it incredibly boring to be on a dominating team, or rather being in matches that the teams are so unbalanced in general.  I don't necessarily care about winning or losing, I'd rather have close matches where you have to try your best.  Even with trying to make sure teams are balanced and matches are close, I still have a 1.52 win/loss ratio (1796/1183).  So you can still have close matches and still win.  You don't need to dominate another team to win.

I thought the object of the game is to win - not feel sorry for the other team...?

killer21 wrote:

NUNYA! Bluecow003 wrote:

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have lumped you in the group of the other quotes.  They seemed to follow in the same line though.  I wasn't really taking issue with your statement, but rather just using it to show that perhaps the servers with rules appear to be more popular because of the fact that they do have rules.  It was responded that servers with rules tend to have clans that support them and can help get them populated.  That's true, but I guess it just shows more that rules are preferred for most people.  If they weren't then there would be more servers without them, right?  If rules are disliked (or rather "gay" rules), wouldn't there be more clans that start servers without them?

And if you guys don't find being on a dominating team boring, then I guess you don't have any problems.  It should give you plenty of opportunity to baserape.  In my opinion, I find it incredibly boring to be on a dominating team, or rather being in matches that the teams are so unbalanced in general.  I don't necessarily care about winning or losing, I'd rather have close matches where you have to try your best.  Even with trying to make sure teams are balanced and matches are close, I still have a 1.52 win/loss ratio (1796/1183).  So you can still have close matches and still win.  You don't need to dominate another team to win.

I thought the object of the game is to win - not feel sorry for the other team...?

I always figured the object of the game is to have fun, personally, raping an uncap is not fun, I find challenges fun(raping uncaps is not a challenge). Also being on the receiving end of rape is not fun.

"A game is a structured or semi-structured activity, usually undertaken for enjoyment"

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Last edited by Ec0li (2008-05-19 11:10:55)

NUNYA! Bluecow003 wrote:

Hmmm, I always thought the object of the game was to have fun.  I've usually found that when people stop having fun, they stop playing.  I'd rather play.  If I was doing this professionally and my livelihood depended on it, then I would feel differently.  However, I do this just for fun and to relax.

Why not win and have fun at the same time?  Fun is a very objective word, especially in this particular discussion.  My idea of fun is having several squadmates attack a base with me.  Your idea of fun is very different than mine but there is nothing wrong with that.  However, don't generalize servers by saying that all of the servers now are empty because there are no rules on them.  Most of the servers are empty because of one BF2 is a three year old game and most people have moved on to CoD4 and two GTA IV is a very addicting game.  I don't have a problem with playing on a server with "rules".  Just don't expect people to respect it.  The majority of the people who play on your server probably will complain that raping is "stat padding, lame, gay, etc."  I've been inside many rapes.  I don't have an issue with it.  99% percent of the time, if you are getting raped, you deserve it.  Getting raped means you weren't good enough to hold a flag, in which case, you need to get rape to learn how to work together. 

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Nobody wins that often without teamswitching or always playing in small servers with a few friends.

When I played all the time, I played with my squadmates who were really, really good players.  We usually ended up raping the other team every round which produced the high w/l.  I mainly played on 32-40 ppl servers.  I never played on anything less than 10 people because it became very boring.  Assumptions.....yup.

Last edited by killer21 (2008-05-19 11:21:51)

NUNYA! Bluecow003 wrote:

I agree it can be a subjective term and I understand that some people find raping to be fun.  I just feel like if everyone has fun (not just the dominating team), then more people want to play and play more often.  That's where I'm coming from particularly as the admin of a server.  I mean we want people to play and we don't want people leaving the server pissed off.  On our server, we used to allow the uncaps to be raped once all the other flags were captured.  We found that when that happened, the losing team would just quit the server and our population would go down.  So since we changed the rules to infantry only attacking the uncap, it helped our population meaning that more people were enjoying their time in our server (otherwise they would leave, right?).

So I just feel like it's better if everyone has fun or rather that nobody has a really shitty time.  Some people will have more fun than others, but at least people aren't getting pissed off and quitting.

Why does every one of your posts have something about your shitty ass server in?

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

spawn raping is for fags.
uncap rape is ok, if your or the enemy team has lost all flags and has no intention to move up.

Shut up Bennet.

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

spawn raping is for fags.
uncap rape is ok, if your or the enemy team has lost all flags and has no intention to move up.

So how do you exactly rape an uncap than?

aimless wrote:

What I dislike is the players who uncape rape consistently...when their team is losing...

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