You'll see electro-actuated brake calipers and carbon composite rotors long before you'll ever see this on a car.
Last edited by Reciprocity (2008-05-19 18:05:47)
a regular break could stop that little wheel instantly.
15 more years! 15 more years!
No you dont need brakes, just smash into a wall and it'll stop;p
lol @ everyone arguing about magnets
what about abs, thats all magnets lol
what about abs, thats all magnets lol
ABS consists of the ECU (electronic control unit), four speed sensors for the wheels, and a few hydraulic valves.Nappy wrote:
lol @ everyone arguing about magnets
what about abs, thats all magnets lol
solenoids are actuated by the ECU, not magnets.
oh, and then the rotors/calipers....but none of that has anything to do with magnetics.
Last edited by Parker (2008-05-20 07:57:52)
Would they pick up nails too?
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Sorry Park, but you are wrong. Computer electronics aren't damaged by magnets. Harddrives, yes. Older monitors (CRT) can go funky if placed right next to a strong magnet. But electronics like you find them in cars can handle magnets. Like someone else said, just think about all the amps and stereos. Those things are full of magnets.
By the way, my car has 0 microchips in it Oldtimers ftw.
By the way, my car has 0 microchips in it Oldtimers ftw.
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some have magnetsParker wrote:
ABS consists of the ECU (electronic control unit), four speed sensors for the wheels, and a few hydraulic valves.Nappy wrote:
lol @ everyone arguing about magnets
what about abs, thats all magnets lol
solenoids are actuated by the ECU, not magnets.
oh, and then the rotors/calipers....but none of that has anything to do with magnetics.
Bail out tbh. You don't take damage and another car always appears when you turn around.Ayumiz wrote:
No you dont need brakes, just smash into a wall and it'll stop;p
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
i was under the impression that memory and CPUs had adverse consequences when magnets were put near them.LaidBackNinja wrote:
Sorry Park, but you are wrong. Computer electronics aren't damaged by magnets. Harddrives, yes. Older monitors (CRT) can go funky if placed right next to a strong magnet. But electronics like you find them in cars can handle magnets. Like someone else said, just think about all the amps and stereos. Those things are full of magnets.
By the way, my car has 0 microchips in it Oldtimers ftw.
so there is NO computer component that can be damaged by magnets, besides hard drives and old school monitors?
this is why i make knives and not computers
A solenoid is a classic electromagnet.Parker wrote:
ABS consists of the ECU (electronic control unit), four speed sensors for the wheels, and a few hydraulic valves.
solenoids are actuated by the ECU, not magnets.
oh, and then the rotors/calipers....but none of that has anything to do with magnetics.
first of people, there are electromagnets capable of launching cars into the air, they can certainly slow one down.
Secondly, the magnetic field of a powerful electromagnet is extremely compact, it will not have much of an effect on any other electronics in the car, unless you put them in the wheel wells.
As for the effect of magnetic fields on computers, it can (temporarily) distort the image on older tube monitors, and interfere with the function of memory and hard drives, as these things require electron stability to function. They have little effect on other components that only require a current to function, unless the magnet is strong enough to stop the current, which few are.
I think our current friction pad brakes work well enough though, why bother making things more complicated and power hungry?
Secondly, the magnetic field of a powerful electromagnet is extremely compact, it will not have much of an effect on any other electronics in the car, unless you put them in the wheel wells.
As for the effect of magnetic fields on computers, it can (temporarily) distort the image on older tube monitors, and interfere with the function of memory and hard drives, as these things require electron stability to function. They have little effect on other components that only require a current to function, unless the magnet is strong enough to stop the current, which few are.
I think our current friction pad brakes work well enough though, why bother making things more complicated and power hungry?
apologizeParker wrote:
i was under the impression that memory and CPUs had adverse consequences when magnets were put near them.LaidBackNinja wrote:
Sorry Park, but you are wrong. Computer electronics aren't damaged by magnets. Harddrives, yes. Older monitors (CRT) can go funky if placed right next to a strong magnet. But electronics like you find them in cars can handle magnets. Like someone else said, just think about all the amps and stereos. Those things are full of magnets.
By the way, my car has 0 microchips in it Oldtimers ftw.
so there is NO computer component that can be damaged by magnets, besides hard drives and old school monitors?
this is why i make knives and not computers
sick knives though, i know nothing about them.
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There are some advantages and disadvantages to this setup. Here are some I thought up quickly:
Advantages:
No fluid required
No bleeding required
No hoses to crack
No seals to leak
No brake pad & rotor waste (lots of pads and rotors are thrown away every day)
No brake pad dust
No warped rotors
No heat
Less noise
Less moving parts
Disadvantages:
No anti-lock brake in this design (with computer control it should work)
Additional wiring required (basically replaces the hoses)
More electrical consumption (resulting in more fuel consumption)
Picks up and holds objects from road (possibly damaging components - but should be avoidable with shields around the rotor and magnet assembly as air will not be required to cool the rotor)
Probably more initial cost, with less maintenance cost
Possibly less performance (stopping speed)
Possibly increased weight (resulting in more fuel consumption)
No pedal feedback to the driver (many may prefer this)
Loss of brakes if electrical is cut off (engine dies), manual (emergency) brake components still required
Its not a bad idea, but someone needs to make a system capable of stopping the average car. Then we will see what the cost and performance differences are.
Some of you may not know this, but electric brakes are used everyday on smaller trailers. These systems still use shoes (like pads, but for drum brakes) and only assist the braking of the vehicle. Drive a trailer without brakes and you will see how much they really help. This setup is very different than shown in this video though.
Advantages:
No fluid required
No bleeding required
No hoses to crack
No seals to leak
No brake pad & rotor waste (lots of pads and rotors are thrown away every day)
No brake pad dust
No warped rotors
No heat
Less noise
Less moving parts
Disadvantages:
No anti-lock brake in this design (with computer control it should work)
Additional wiring required (basically replaces the hoses)
More electrical consumption (resulting in more fuel consumption)
Picks up and holds objects from road (possibly damaging components - but should be avoidable with shields around the rotor and magnet assembly as air will not be required to cool the rotor)
Probably more initial cost, with less maintenance cost
Possibly less performance (stopping speed)
Possibly increased weight (resulting in more fuel consumption)
No pedal feedback to the driver (many may prefer this)
Loss of brakes if electrical is cut off (engine dies), manual (emergency) brake components still required
Its not a bad idea, but someone needs to make a system capable of stopping the average car. Then we will see what the cost and performance differences are.
Some of you may not know this, but electric brakes are used everyday on smaller trailers. These systems still use shoes (like pads, but for drum brakes) and only assist the braking of the vehicle. Drive a trailer without brakes and you will see how much they really help. This setup is very different than shown in this video though.
Last edited by west-phoenix-az (2008-05-21 10:13:08)
I hear magnets ruin credit cards too.Parker wrote:
i was under the impression that memory and CPUs had adverse consequences when magnets were put near them.LaidBackNinja wrote:
Sorry Park, but you are wrong. Computer electronics aren't damaged by magnets. Harddrives, yes. Older monitors (CRT) can go funky if placed right next to a strong magnet. But electronics like you find them in cars can handle magnets. Like someone else said, just think about all the amps and stereos. Those things are full of magnets.
By the way, my car has 0 microchips in it Oldtimers ftw.
so there is NO computer component that can be damaged by magnets, besides hard drives and old school monitors?
this is why i make knives and not computers
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