CameronPoe
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Kmarion wrote:

Dunkin Donuts does not represent 320 million people.

Michelle does have a point here though:
My syndicated column today examines the keffiyeh kerfuffle with Dunkin’ Donuts and Rachael Ray that I noted on the blog last week. As you’ll recall, I linked  to an item by LGF’s Charles Johnson about the scarf she wore in a recent Dunkin’ ad. Keffiyeh chic has been covered on this site and at Hot Air extensively (see here, here, and here). Anti-American fashion designers abroad and at home have mainstreamed and adapted the scarves as generic pro-Palestinian jihad or anti-war statements. Yet many folks out there remain completely oblivious to the apparel’s violent symbolism and anti-Israel overtones. Left-wing bloggers responded with complete scorn, deliberate mischaracterizations of the debate, and then outrage when Dunkin’ Donuts commendably showed sensitivity to the concerns and pulled the ad. The Boston Globe accused me of “yowling.” If you actually read my post  and the column below, you’ll see no such thing.

It’s interesting how much ire the Left shows when we civilly raise pointed questions about the power of insidious symbols. These are the same folks who have nothing to say when zealots on their side of the ideological aisle go about tearing down crosses and throwing tantrums over the symbols they abhor.
The really funny part is that it was actually the left leaning NYT that first pointed out the connection.
Being pro-Palestinian is now being anti-American? She needs a good hard fist shoved up her ass.

'Insidious symbol'? Keffiyehs are worn by Arabs all over the fucking middle east - it ain't a symbol: it's an item of fucking clothing for preventing sunburn!!!!!! Sheesh she is rabidly anti-Arab. I'm sure she doesn't ask the Sheikhs who fuel her SUV to leave their keffiyeh at home...

See the thing on the guys head on the right: that's an example of a keffiyeh..

https://www.secureisrael.com/saudi/BUSH_SAUDI.JPG

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-05-30 08:45:19)

M.O.A.B
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I've got an olive and black Shemagh, works quite well for holding out the cold. Don't like the white and *insert colour* ones as much. I got it cos I've got an interest in military stuff and they wear them for the same reasons. Never heard of one of these things being referred to as a 'Palestinian' like.

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2008-05-30 08:45:30)

NantanCochise
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CameronPoe wrote:

NantanCochise wrote:

Here we go again. I personally think that the bbc article has lost the plot and so has this whole thread. Who really cares, this happens every day, everywhere, where companies pull ads due to public and political opinion. Blame the bloggers but its really the fault of Dunkin Donuts succoming to their pressures. But than again, Dunkin Donuts management must have thought it over and come to the conclusion that this ad may hurt profits, so pulled it. Alternatively, they probably and purposly created this ad to get attention, therefore improving profits. What the hell has this got to do with the US losing it (Cam)... If you want to talk about political correctness, I think we can find a few better examples to talk about. Im sorry but I have a hard time caring about topics that get us talking about big business' way of getting us, well to talk about them all day. About bad and bored jouralists who have nothing better to write about, bloggers who dont know shit and playing witch hunt. At the end of the day who really instigated this, Dunkin Donuts? BBC? Bloggers? Cam? Islam? US? We will never really know but we will all choose someone to blame depending on personal bias.
You're right, it is Dunkin Donuts who are to blame here. And it's pathetic.
True, they are the only ones getting free publicity here, or maybe the bbc too, to a lesser degree.

Last edited by NantanCochise (2008-05-30 08:57:59)

CameronPoe
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Also, could whichever moderator retitled my thread change the word 'terrorist scarf' to 'arab head-attire'.
NantanCochise
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CameronPoe wrote:

Also, could whichever moderator retitled my thread change the word 'terrorist scarf' to 'arab head-attire'.
LOL, I really wouldnt be surprised.
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CameronPoe wrote:

Also, could whichever moderator retitled my thread change the word 'terrorist scarf' to 'arab head-attire'.
lol, was just thinking considering that's what the whole debate was about, putting 'terrorist scarf' in the title might be jumping the gun slightly.
Kmar
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CameronPoe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Dunkin Donuts does not represent 320 million people.

Michelle does have a point here though:
My syndicated column today examines the keffiyeh kerfuffle with Dunkin’ Donuts and Rachael Ray that I noted on the blog last week. As you’ll recall, I linked  to an item by LGF’s Charles Johnson about the scarf she wore in a recent Dunkin’ ad. Keffiyeh chic has been covered on this site and at Hot Air extensively (see here, here, and here). Anti-American fashion designers abroad and at home have mainstreamed and adapted the scarves as generic pro-Palestinian jihad or anti-war statements. Yet many folks out there remain completely oblivious to the apparel’s violent symbolism and anti-Israel overtones. Left-wing bloggers responded with complete scorn, deliberate mischaracterizations of the debate, and then outrage when Dunkin’ Donuts commendably showed sensitivity to the concerns and pulled the ad. The Boston Globe accused me of “yowling.” If you actually read my post  and the column below, you’ll see no such thing.

It’s interesting how much ire the Left shows when we civilly raise pointed questions about the power of insidious symbols. These are the same folks who have nothing to say when zealots on their side of the ideological aisle go about tearing down crosses and throwing tantrums over the symbols they abhor.
The really funny part is that it was actually the left leaning NYT that first pointed out the connection.
Being pro-Palestinian is now being anti-American? She needs a good hard fist shoved up her ass.

'Insidious symbol'? Keffiyehs are worn by Arabs all over the fucking middle east - it ain't a symbol: it's an item of fucking clothing for preventing sunburn!!!!!! Sheesh she is rabidly anti-Arab. I'm sure she doesn't ask the Sheikhs who fuel her SUV to leave their keffiyeh at home...
Urban Outfitters marketed theirs under "antiwar" scarves. Sounds like politicizing to me. For the record MM comes of a little too O'reillyish for me. I agree with the absurdity of this being insensitive (in this case). It doesn't mean the whole issues is invalid though.

I did not retitled the thread.
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CameronPoe wrote:

Also, could whichever moderator retitled my thread change the word 'terrorist scarf' to 'arab head-attire'.
No! You made a mistake and now you live with it! Learn to lose in life like the rest of us cam.
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David.P wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Also, could whichever moderator retitled my thread change the word 'terrorist scarf' to 'arab head-attire'.
No! You made a mistake and now you live with it! Learn to lose in life like the rest of us cam.
My title was simply 'Dunkin Donuts' - I didn't write the rest.
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Kmarion wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I own one of these scarfs, which I bought as a souvernir in Palestine, as does my brother who bought his in Urban Outfitters.
hmmm not anymore:
The same day Urban Outfitters, which had offered the scarves in several color combinations for $20, pulled them from stores. Its Web site posted this explanation: “Due to the sensitive nature of this item, we will no longer offer it for sale. We apologize if we offended anyone, this was by no means our intention.” A spokeswoman for the store, which has 95 branches nationwide, declined to comment further.
Ouch!
I was in Urban Outfitters in Manchester today.

Just thought i'd share that.
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David.P
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CameronPoe wrote:

David.P wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Also, could whichever moderator retitled my thread change the word 'terrorist scarf' to 'arab head-attire'.
No! You made a mistake and now you live with it! Learn to lose in life like the rest of us cam.
My title was simply 'Dunkin Donuts' - I didn't write the rest.
Damnit i fail again!
13rin
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CameronPoe wrote:

The US has officially lost the plot...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7427206.stm

I own one of these scarfs, which I bought as a souvernir in Palestine, as does my brother who bought his in Urban Outfitters. It's a scarf. Perhaps arab countries should ban people wearing suits from adverts in their countries as the people who keep calling for attacks on them are generally wearing suits. This truly is pathetic.
Yea, what the hell?  She should have worn her swastika armband cause that keffiyeh so does not go with that outfit.  A souvenir?  To me that would be like buying a machete in Sierra Leone.

M.O.A.B wrote:

I've got an olive and black Shemagh, works quite well for holding out the cold. Don't like the white and *insert colour* ones as much. I got it cos I've got an interest in military stuff and they wear them for the same reasons. Never heard of one of these things being referred to as a 'Palestinian' like.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffiyeh

m3thod wrote:

http://www.cult.co.uk/search.aspx?look=K3JOsteln%2fk%3d&wc=uRTMQY0HCWA%3d&wh=K3JOsteln%2fk%3d

Call MI5 quick.
I noticed that the guy wearing the one that closest resembles the palestine's one is in camo pants...

However if RR & DD were trying to sell coffee in palestine... f it.

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2008-05-30 10:55:14)

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CameronPoe
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

The US has officially lost the plot...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7427206.stm

I own one of these scarfs, which I bought as a souvernir in Palestine, as does my brother who bought his in Urban Outfitters. It's a scarf. Perhaps arab countries should ban people wearing suits from adverts in their countries as the people who keep calling for attacks on them are generally wearing suits. This truly is pathetic.
Yea, what the hell?  She should have worn her swastika armband cause that keffiyeh so does not go with that outfit.  A souvenir?  To me that would be like buying a machete in Sierra Leone.
You obviously have absolutely no idea whatsoever what a keffiyeh is. Try making an informed opinion rather than just an opinion. Your warped view would be the equivalent of calling all trouser-wearers Nazis because Hitler wore trousers...

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-05-30 10:56:14)

13rin
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CameronPoe wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

The US has officially lost the plot...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7427206.stm

I own one of these scarfs, which I bought as a souvernir in Palestine, as does my brother who bought his in Urban Outfitters. It's a scarf. Perhaps arab countries should ban people wearing suits from adverts in their countries as the people who keep calling for attacks on them are generally wearing suits. This truly is pathetic.
Yea, what the hell?  She should have worn her swastika armband cause that keffiyeh so does not go with that outfit.  A souvenir?  To me that would be like buying a machete in Sierra Leone.
You obviously have absolutely no idea whatsoever what a keffiyeh is. Try making an informed opinion rather than just an opinion.
Actually Cam it's you buddy who has yet again turned a blind eye to it.  Try researching a bit more...
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
CameronPoe
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:


Yea, what the hell?  She should have worn her swastika armband cause that keffiyeh so does not go with that outfit.  A souvenir?  To me that would be like buying a machete in Sierra Leone.
You obviously have absolutely no idea whatsoever what a keffiyeh is. Try making an informed opinion rather than just an opinion.
Actually Cam it's you buddy who has yet again turned a blind eye to it.  Try researching a bit more...
A blind eye to what? Explain...
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Thomas_Edward_Lawrence-Lawrence_of_Arabia.JPG

Uh oh - T.E. Lawrence is wearing a keffiyeh: he's obviously protesting the state of Israel before it even existed...
13rin
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CameronPoe wrote:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … Arabia.JPG

Uh oh - T.E. Lawrence is wearing a keffiyeh: he's obviously protesting the state of Israel before it even existed...
There's a difference Cam and you know it.  The coloration and such.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
JahManRed
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … Arabia.JPG

Uh oh - T.E. Lawrence is wearing a keffiyeh: he's obviously protesting the state of Israel before it even existed...
There's a difference Cam and you know it.  The coloration and such.
Ok, so its the checked pattern you object to?
One of the keffiyeh's I have is about 4ftx3ft black and white checks. So no more if this then:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Menards_Infiniti_Pro_Series_checkered_flag.JPG/626px-Menards_Infiniti_Pro_Series_checkered_flag.JPG
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And you guys bitch about Islam banning things, just as bad. All should be thrown into lava
Kmar
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

And you guys bitch about Islam banning things, just as bad. All should be thrown into lava
This was a private company pulling an advertisement. Just as bad?..Slight difference.
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13rin
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JahManRed wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … Arabia.JPG

Uh oh - T.E. Lawrence is wearing a keffiyeh: he's obviously protesting the state of Israel before it even existed...
There's a difference Cam and you know it.  The coloration and such.
Ok, so its the checked pattern you object to?
One of the keffiyeh's I have is about 4ftx3ft black and white checks. So no more if this then:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … d_flag.JPG
Is he wrapping his head in it?  Ok then.

Also Cam I noticed you linked the pic directly from the wiki page. ... You must have missed the section right below it that summarizes my point as to the controversy.



Bottom line...  They can air whatever they want.  Just like you can eat and drink whatever you want.

Me?  I found a new favorite brand of coffee.

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2008-05-30 16:45:37)

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
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You know...  this almost makes me want to wear a kaffiyeh just to piss people off.

It's just a fucking scarf....
AussieReaper
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The US chain Dunkin' Donuts has pulled an advert following complaints that the scarf worn by a celebrity chef offered symbolic support for Islamic extremism.
Symbolic support for Islamic extremism. What would have been supporting Americanism, a bikini?
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Turquoise
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

The US chain Dunkin' Donuts has pulled an advert following complaints that the scarf worn by a celebrity chef offered symbolic support for Islamic extremism.
Symbolic support for Islamic extremism. What would have been supporting Americanism, a bikini?
No...  An American flag bikini...  lol

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